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Replying To Fitzy01: "Apologies honestly didn't mean it to sound as a lecture. I was just giving my opinion that financial resources don't automatically equate to success and giving some examples. Isn't that the whole point of this forum i.e. discuss our hurling opinions on things. My memory is fine thanks, If you disagree with something I said why not offer a little more detail on your own point of view." Sound. And my apologies for reacting.
Our club teams are a match for the very best. We have the talent.
We do have 1000's of volunteers across our county working hard with very young groups all the way through to 1st/2nd school level. We start hitting issues at 3 rd level education and under age county level. The time and resources required to avail of top level competition is so difficult because of our location.
We are making progress with academy type structures through underage and our high performance centre, both financed by our business forum. Again, its long treks from the Glens to fulfill fixtures.
An absence of a home county ground is also a big negative. Political influences have made this and lots of our activities very difficult for us but we have new hope with Institutions up and running again.
We live in hope and I wish you well for the season ahead.
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Replying To Fitzy01: "Apologies honestly didn't mean it to sound as a lecture. I was just giving my opinion that financial resources don't automatically equate to success and giving some examples. Isn't that the whole point of this forum i.e. discuss our hurling opinions on things. My memory is fine thanks, If you disagree with something I said why not offer a little more detail on your own point of view." Yes Glensboy, his post could come across as a bit patronising, and it did to me a tad to be honest, but Fitzy01 has never been that type of poster. So, I'd say move on and take it all in good gist!
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Replying To Glensboy: "Sound. And my apologies for reacting.
Our club teams are a match for the very best. We have the talent.
We do have 1000's of volunteers across our county working hard with very young groups all the way through to 1st/2nd school level. We start hitting issues at 3 rd level education and under age county level. The time and resources required to avail of top level competition is so difficult because of our location.
We are making progress with academy type structures through underage and our high performance centre, both financed by our business forum. Again, its long treks from the Glens to fulfill fixtures.
An absence of a home county ground is also a big negative. Political influences have made this and lots of our activities very difficult for us but we have new hope with Institutions up and running again.
We live in hope and I wish you well for the season ahead." I note the problems for Antrim Gaels caused by the political vacuum. Great to see a Nationalist appointed as First Minister, as the people voted for that in 2022.
Hopefully things will settle down now, can you see the Executive lasting this time for the common good?
Maybe Casement Park will be finally developed..
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Replying To thelongridge: "I note the problems for Antrim Gaels caused by the political vacuum. Great to see a Nationalist appointed as First Minister, as the people voted for that in 2022.
Hopefully things will settle down now, can you see the Executive lasting this time for the common good?
Maybe Casement Park will be finally developed.." We hope the political dynamic can last and deliver for us all. History tells us not to trust the UK Govt, but we have to be positive.
There is room on our Island for all traditions.
We are hopeful of Casement Park being developed and that the people of all traditions can avail of the facilities to add some joy to their lives.
The gaels of Antrim desperately need a home ground for lots of reasons.
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Dissapointing that the Club Championship draws in Limerick were done behind closed doors this year , It was always interesting and added a bit of excitment for many to see the draws done online , a backward move by county board.
OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 678 - 08/02/2024 12:24:49
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I saw that mentioned Openstand.was there any reason given for this?were clubs informed before it took place?
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Replying To OpenStand: "Dissapointing that the Club Championship draws in Limerick were done behind closed doors this year , It was always interesting and added a bit of excitment for many to see the draws done online , a backward move by county board." If you don't mind an interloper from Wexford here....
Am curious about that myself. Presume clubs were at least informed it would take place? And were they invited to send somebody to witness the draw, or was it done behind real closed doors, with just the CCC in attendance?
Here in Wexford, they're doing the draws on Saturday night, after the match v Offaly in the League. It's not to be streamed (and to be honest, I'm not sure it ever was), but at least we in the clubs know about it and are entitled to have somebody there to see it.
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Replying To CTGAA10: "I saw that mentioned Openstand.was there any reason given for this?were clubs informed before it took place?" Not aware of Clubs been at it or not, if they werent its a very shadowy way of doing business !!
Just for the general Limerick Club supporters the last couple of years were very interesting to watch and quite high tech but this year its hand written sheets (a 12 year old would cobble together) put up on Facebook which looks very amateurish .
OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 678 - 08/02/2024 15:33:33
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Replying To Fitzy01: "Antrim have recently opened a 570K high performance centre which is regarded as the best in the Association so their resources aren't too bad at all, at least financially. Galway GAA spent more than Limerick last year and still did not improve. Dublin hurlers have the best of everything and still struggle to make an impact.
The bones of what is required for the foundation towards success costs nothing. Kids who want to play hurling, talented hurlers, parents you are willing to give their time and effort to put the structures in place locally. Primary and secondary school involvement, teachers volunteering etc.
In saying all that the resources i'm sure you are referring to are the number of talented hurlers Limerick have at their disposal compared with Antrim. Hopefully results and performances will improve as the season progresses. Hurling needs as many competitive counties as it can get." It was a JP dig, and my reply was blocked. I think westmeath proved my point.
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Replying To OpenStand: "Not aware of Clubs been at it or not, if they werent its a very shadowy way of doing business !!
Just for the general Limerick Club supporters the last couple of years were very interesting to watch and quite high tech but this year its hand written sheets (a 12 year old would cobble together) put up on Facebook which looks very amateurish ." I agree that note was hilarious but aren't the senior groups already predetermined based on last year?
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All is quiet on the Limerick thread. They got a good run out on Saturday in Croker, hard as always to judge the performance as it had the feel of a training match with little intensity in the second half but Limerick moved the ball well at times and look reasonably sharp.
One glaring thing is that the ball doesn't stick as much up top without Gillane, i don't think anyone can play that role if he were to get injured.
The big plus was seeing the body language and work rate of Hego he looks like a man on a mission this year. Fergal O'Connor and Donnacha O'Dalaigh did well and gained invaluable experience. Cathal O'Neill played well but not sure if he's ready for center back just yet, we were wide open down the middle a few times but he also seemed to change positions a few times during the game so not his fault.
Interesting to see Quaid go long with so many puck outs and almost revert to the old traditional approach of dropping them down on the half forward line without the "fan in, fan out" approach.
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Fitzy01 think a lot of limerick people are fearful of posting going by some comments on Twitter in past few days..let the hurling do the talking Angela ignore all else..I was delighted to see o Connor getting his chance and he has impressed since he was a minor,also did very well with ul in Fitz..I agree on gaps through the middle but with Declan,Dan or William going to 6 that would stop..I also thought gearoid was outstanding with Tom..I think o dalaigh could certainly bring something extra in the last 15 of games,a very direct forward..2 decent games to come to give us a better idea of where limerick really are..
CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2231 - 26/02/2024 20:57:49
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Replying To Fitzy01: "All is quiet on the Limerick thread. They got a good run out on Saturday in Croker, hard as always to judge the performance as it had the feel of a training match with little intensity in the second half but Limerick moved the ball well at times and look reasonably sharp.
One glaring thing is that the ball doesn't stick as much up top without Gillane, i don't think anyone can play that role if he were to get injured.
The big plus was seeing the body language and work rate of Hego he looks like a man on a mission this year. Fergal O'Connor and Donnacha O'Dalaigh did well and gained invaluable experience. Cathal O'Neill played well but not sure if he's ready for center back just yet, we were wide open down the middle a few times but he also seemed to change positions a few times during the game so not his fault.
Interesting to see Quaid go long with so many puck outs and almost revert to the old traditional approach of dropping them down on the half forward line without the "fan in, fan out" approach." Tipp Sat week should be interesting as they'll be out to make a statement.
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I think JK will be happy with the progress of some of the fringe players. Adam English and Cathal O'Neill will push for starting positions. Shane O'Brien, Donnacha @Dalaigh and Fergal O'Connor likely to make the 26 come championship and get some game time. I think O'Conner likely to get some more league game time depending on the progress of Sean Finn. We do not have huge cover in the full back line. Generally players come back from the cruciate injury take time to adjust and it might be optimistic to think that Finn will be ready for the Clare game.
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Tipperary & Limerick Saturday week will be playing to top the group , should be a big crowd , its down for 7.30, Ireland play England at 4.45 in 6 nations so nearby pubs will be busy . Tipperary appear to be going well judging by their Galway victory
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Replying To Fitzy01: "All is quiet on the Limerick thread. They got a good run out on Saturday in Croker, hard as always to judge the performance as it had the feel of a training match with little intensity in the second half but Limerick moved the ball well at times and look reasonably sharp.
One glaring thing is that the ball doesn't stick as much up top without Gillane, i don't think anyone can play that role if he were to get injured.
The big plus was seeing the body language and work rate of Hego he looks like a man on a mission this year. Fergal O'Connor and Donnacha O'Dalaigh did well and gained invaluable experience. Cathal O'Neill played well but not sure if he's ready for center back just yet, we were wide open down the middle a few times but he also seemed to change positions a few times during the game so not his fault.
Interesting to see Quaid go long with so many puck outs and almost revert to the old traditional approach of dropping them down on the half forward line without the "fan in, fan out" approach." I think Peter Casey is capable of playing the Gillane roll if required. He is well able to win his own ball and can shoot off both his left and his right side. He has been mostly used by Limerick as a roving player in the half forward line/Mid Field space (leaving the space inside for Flanagan to and Gillane) but I think any time he has been put in the traditional corner forward position he has done damage.
I was hoping to see Cathal O'Neill tried at Centre Back and I would be happy enough with how it went. I think he could be attacking weapon from there due to his movement and Ball striking (similar to Kyle Hayes and Barry Nash). I do agree with you that he would need a bit more experience playing there from a defensive perspective before he could play championship level there.
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Replying To LimerickandProud: "I think Peter Casey is capable of playing the Gillane roll if required. He is well able to win his own ball and can shoot off both his left and his right side. He has been mostly used by Limerick as a roving player in the half forward line/Mid Field space (leaving the space inside for Flanagan to and Gillane) but I think any time he has been put in the traditional corner forward position he has done damage.
I was hoping to see Cathal O'Neill tried at Centre Back and I would be happy enough with how it went. I think he could be attacking weapon from there due to his movement and Ball striking (similar to Kyle Hayes and Barry Nash). I do agree with you that he would need a bit more experience playing there from a defensive perspective before he could play championship level there." I think Flanagan playing the roving role and Casey inside would play better to both players strengths, Casey did that in AI final and Flanagan played the 2nd half of last years semi final out the field.
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Replying To CTGAA10: "Fitzy01 think a lot of limerick people are fearful of posting going by some comments on Twitter in past few days..let the hurling do the talking Angela ignore all else..I was delighted to see o Connor getting his chance and he has impressed since he was a minor,also did very well with ul in Fitz..I agree on gaps through the middle but with Declan,Dan or William going to 6 that would stop..I also thought gearoid was outstanding with Tom..I think o dalaigh could certainly bring something extra in the last 15 of games,a very direct forward..2 decent games to come to give us a better idea of where limerick really are.." After the w21 Munster Final and the closing stages of the Cork last year I would never move Dan Morrissey out of Full Back. Absolute Anchor Man. We were coasting at the time Hannon had to go off and Dan was moved out.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4344 - 29/02/2024 21:37:10
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The drive for 5. Its never been done for a reason. Its a collective will and struggle over a sustained period of time and so many factors can knock it off course. This will be only the 3rd time in the history of this great game that it'll be attempted. The most recent the great team of kilkenny in the 00s is the only yard stick we can use.
When I look at comparisons they are striking. Kilkenny and Limerick are very similar. Leaders on every line. A driven management team striving for excellence. A player led mentality to achieve win after win after win. An aerial dominance across both 40s. An inside attack that's lethal. Hurling skill levels never seen before. But above all else An insatiable work ethic driven by competition in a 30 man strong panel.
When we look at 2010 and 2024 the respective years of the 5 in a row attempts there are a few differences. In 2010 Tipperary had played the AI final the year before against kilkenny and were incredibly close to a win. It was a young enough Tipp team that has serious talent and tasted an agonising defeat. Kilkenny in those years didn't get any contest really in their province bar a couple if tight games but nothing really to challenge them until croke park. In 2010 they were letting fans into training. 10-12000 in the lead up to the final. They also had to deal with shefflins cruciate before the final and the incomprehensible decision to start him. Had they been prepared to lose their best player? The answer was no. The preparation let them down and Tipp were a serious team . Tipp beat kilkenny comfortably to stop the drive for 5.
Looking to 2024. Clare have shown the potential to be that Tipp side but have fallen badly on the biggest stage 2 years in a row and no trophy under Lohan entering year 5. They have doubts over TK and Taylor won't be involved for most of munster championship. SOD gets the league off again. Will they be fully ready for limerick and cork away I'm 7 days to start their championship? You look at cork Galway and kilkenny and all have huge potential but not quite settled on their starting teams. Waterford and wexford will ruffle a few feathers this year and Waterford can be a serious dark horse in munster with Walsh park factor and lots of players to come back. who will jump above the pack. The team i would be most concerned this year is Tipperary. They have an enormous amount of hurlers and look to be getting very healthy. Cahill will drive them beyond what they themselves will have believed they could do. They'll relish the chance to stop the 5 in a row for a 3rd time.
Limerick don't do fanfare. Trainings are behind closed doors and will remain so but for me the big difference between 2010 and 2024 is Limericks ability to absorb losing their best players and find a way. They have superb talent in their ranks that most players can play in several positions and slot in comfortably. Seamlessly. Limerick have lost Hannon Lynch Both Caseys Finn Flanagan all for large chunks of the years and have adapted and even pushed on.
Looking to 2024 Limerick look in a good position health wise. I gather all are training but on differing schedules to enter the league. Up to now we have still to see Aaron Gillane Peter Casey Cian Lynch Declan Hannon Sean Finn see a field of play in 2024. Last week was the first time Quaid WoD Barry Nash K
saw the field this year. Limerick are bringing some young talent through aswell. Fergal o connor Adam English Aidan o connor Donncha o Dalaigh Shane o Brien. These lads are getting great experience in that setup and marking some of the best in the game in training to hone their skills. Its my opinion that kiely will target Tipp and Galway matches and potentially a league semi final to fine tune for clare in Ennis. It looks good on paper to be a nice run in but we all know there will be bumps along the way. The one thing that this team possibly have over the great Kk team is they've shown that they can handle any bump on the road that you can throw at them.
This year could be epic no matter how it goes. Limerick creating history. A county stopping history. A county jumping from the pack to possibly challenge Limerick going into the future. Last year munster was incredible. Can't wait for another year at it.
Luimneach abú
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Replying To daveboy: "The drive for 5. Its never been done for a reason. Its a collective will and struggle over a sustained period of time and so many factors can knock it off course. This will be only the 3rd time in the history of this great game that it'll be attempted. The most recent the great team of kilkenny in the 00s is the only yard stick we can use.
When I look at comparisons they are striking. Kilkenny and Limerick are very similar. Leaders on every line. A driven management team striving for excellence. A player led mentality to achieve win after win after win. An aerial dominance across both 40s. An inside attack that's lethal. Hurling skill levels never seen before. But above all else An insatiable work ethic driven by competition in a 30 man strong panel.
When we look at 2010 and 2024 the respective years of the 5 in a row attempts there are a few differences. In 2010 Tipperary had played the AI final the year before against kilkenny and were incredibly close to a win. It was a young enough Tipp team that has serious talent and tasted an agonising defeat. Kilkenny in those years didn't get any contest really in their province bar a couple if tight games but nothing really to challenge them until croke park. In 2010 they were letting fans into training. 10-12000 in the lead up to the final. They also had to deal with shefflins cruciate before the final and the incomprehensible decision to start him. Had they been prepared to lose their best player? The answer was no. The preparation let them down and Tipp were a serious team . Tipp beat kilkenny comfortably to stop the drive for 5.
Looking to 2024. Clare have shown the potential to be that Tipp side but have fallen badly on the biggest stage 2 years in a row and no trophy under Lohan entering year 5. They have doubts over TK and Taylor won't be involved for most of munster championship. SOD gets the league off again. Will they be fully ready for limerick and cork away I'm 7 days to start their championship? You look at cork Galway and kilkenny and all have huge potential but not quite settled on their starting teams. Waterford and wexford will ruffle a few feathers this year and Waterford can be a serious dark horse in munster with Walsh park factor and lots of players to come back. who will jump above the pack. The team i would be most concerned this year is Tipperary. They have an enormous amount of hurlers and look to be getting very healthy. Cahill will drive them beyond what they themselves will have believed they could do. They'll relish the chance to stop the 5 in a row for a 3rd time.
Limerick don't do fanfare. Trainings are behind closed doors and will remain so but for me the big difference between 2010 and 2024 is Limericks ability to absorb losing their best players and find a way. They have superb talent in their ranks that most players can play in several positions and slot in comfortably. Seamlessly. Limerick have lost Hannon Lynch Both Caseys Finn Flanagan all for large chunks of the years and have adapted and even pushed on.
Looking to 2024 Limerick look in a good position health wise. I gather all are training but on differing schedules to enter the league. Up to now we have still to see Aaron Gillane Peter Casey Cian Lynch Declan Hannon Sean Finn see a field of play in 2024. Last week was the first time Quaid WoD Barry Nash K
saw the field this year. Limerick are bringing some young talent through aswell. Fergal o connor Adam English Aidan o connor Donncha o Dalaigh Shane o Brien. These lads are getting great experience in that setup and marking some of the best in the game in training to hone their skills. Its my opinion that kiely will target Tipp and Galway matches and potentially a league semi final to fine tune for clare in Ennis. It looks good on paper to be a nice run in but we all know there will be bumps along the way. The one thing that this team possibly have over the great Kk team is they've shown that they can handle any bump on the road that you can throw at them.
This year could be epic no matter how it goes. Limerick creating history. A county stopping history. A county jumping from the pack to possibly challenge Limerick going into the future. Last year munster was incredible. Can't wait for another year at it.
Luimneach abú" I see another limerick match away from home.I just hope that all these upgrades in limerick really are up to standard..it will probably make going to cork easier next week cos I can't see a big crowd travelling..
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