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JP McManus Donates €1M To Each County Board

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The Independent had an article yesterday about how it could get messy distributing the funds. The grant stipulates that despite the money being sent to the GAA county boards, it must be shared between all clubs including ladies football and camogie. This is firstly an issue because its handing money to 1 organisation but demanding it be split among 3. On top of this, the link between LGFA/Camogie clubs and their associated GAA clubs varies widely. Some places totally buy into the One Club model while others are completely distinct with different organisations, and even different names, colours and crests. Who decides what counts as one club? What's to stop the LGFA/Camogie side of every club claiming to be a separate club and demanding a share of the cash in their own right? CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1648 - 16/12/2023 16:36:30 2517068 Link
Replying To eoinog: "Your wasting your time trying to explain this. Some people have it in their thick heads, not just on this forum but also from reading comments on newspaper articles that the Co Board will get their hands on this money . No matter how many times you say that it's going to clubs, people will chose to somehow bring the Co Board into it" Waste of time trying to argue with imbeciles. Rather depressing to think that they all get to vote in elections .... Most of the idiots commenting about "grab all association" clearly haven't one notion as to how the GAA operates. They think its the same as whatever Tan football club they follow from their couch. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2598 - 16/12/2023 16:37:19 2517069 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "It does nt bother me one iota.Im delighted for all the clubs in the country.Im just stating fact that the in the counties with the fewer clubs then those clubs will get more money.It does nt bother me at all." Nonetheless you are highlighting it as an issue. These counties with fewer clubs like Sligo, Longford and Fermanagh are less prominent in the GAA world and I see it as a welcome boost for the promotion and development of the games in those counties. Great credit is due to those counties for continuing to play the games when few rewards come their way, It is very difficult for them to compete with the bigger counties fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 598 - 16/12/2023 17:11:24 2517071 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Waste of time trying to argue with imbeciles. Rather depressing to think that they all get to vote in elections .... Most of the idiots commenting about "grab all association" clearly haven't one notion as to how the GAA operates. They think its the same as whatever Tan football club they follow from their couch." To me, that is one of the more depressing aspect of social media is that it has provided a platform for every type of moron who just can't see anything only their own opinion. Back in the day they would have been ignored or ridiculed - either would shut them and their idiotic theories up. But now they have free rein. Thankfully they can still be ignored. It seems pretty clear cut to me, and I'm no brain box by any means. And there is a time limit on when the clubs have to have the monies dispersed. It is a bit tough on the counties with big numbers of clubs. I think the issue of what constitutes a club should be pretty easy to sort. Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1012 - 16/12/2023 17:26:08 2517073 Link
I wonder how it works where you have a men's and ladies club with different names and are in effect different clubs and may have a different name but share the same playing pitches? yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11245 - 16/12/2023 17:59:20 2517077 Link
Replying To CastleBravo: "The Independent had an article yesterday about how it could get messy distributing the funds. The grant stipulates that despite the money being sent to the GAA county boards, it must be shared between all clubs including ladies football and camogie. This is firstly an issue because its handing money to 1 organisation but demanding it be split among 3. On top of this, the link between LGFA/Camogie clubs and their associated GAA clubs varies widely. Some places totally buy into the One Club model while others are completely distinct with different organisations, and even different names, colours and crests. Who decides what counts as one club? What's to stop the LGFA/Camogie side of every club claiming to be a separate club and demanding a share of the cash in their own right?" Very simple to define the club. If there is LGFA/Camogie aspect to the club . Do they have a club constitution, trustees (or corporate trust) an independent bank account. You will find very few have these so they are probably all under the umbrella of the club. eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1679 - 16/12/2023 18:11:06 2517078 Link
Replying To fainleog: "Nonetheless you are highlighting it as an issue. These counties with fewer clubs like Sligo, Longford and Fermanagh are less prominent in the GAA world and I see it as a welcome boost for the promotion and development of the games in those counties. Great credit is due to those counties for continuing to play the games when few rewards come their way, It is very difficult for them to compete with the bigger counties" Spot on Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12139 - 16/12/2023 19:37:22 2517088 Link
Now that it is clear, as various knowledgeable posters have emphasized, that the JP donations are going directly to the individual county boards, let's hope that they distribute the money evenly. Should fund some merry Christmas bashes anyway! (Couldn't resist having a laugh). Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 218 - 16/12/2023 19:47:39 2517090 Link
Replying To fainleog: "Nonetheless you are highlighting it as an issue. These counties with fewer clubs like Sligo, Longford and Fermanagh are less prominent in the GAA world and I see it as a welcome boost for the promotion and development of the games in those counties. Great credit is due to those counties for continuing to play the games when few rewards come their way, It is very difficult for them to compete with the bigger counties" Oh there's no doubt it bothers him but he's just playing glib having being called out on it. Counties like outselves are in dire need of funding and thanks to JP, I know my own club anyhow, can keep themselves going for the next 6 months anyhow with the money. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 848 - 16/12/2023 23:52:40 2517116 Link
Replying To eoinog: "Very simple to define the club. If there is LGFA/Camogie aspect to the club . Do they have a club constitution, trustees (or corporate trust) an independent bank account. You will find very few have these so they are probably all under the umbrella of the club." Most clubs down here including ours are completely seperate, although we are discussing going over to the one club model in our club as a few clubs down here already have done. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12139 - 17/12/2023 12:50:49 2517146 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "Oh I agree Barney its brilliant but if your club was anywhere else besides Dublin or Cork they d get a good bit more.However im just knitpicking as its great news for every club." Nah, your not knit picking your begrudging, - window dressed as knit picking, me thinks. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2911 - 17/12/2023 13:03:03 2517149 Link
Replying To supersub15: "Nah, your not knit picking your begrudging, - window dressed as knit picking, me thinks." Begrudging, window dressed as knit picking? Wtf? The point is completely fair. The less clubs a county has, the more money they get. Simples. And I think what McManus has done is great btw. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1742 - 17/12/2023 14:59:43 2517176 Link
To all in Sundry! I think its great so many gaa clubs will benefit from JP McManus s ultra generous gift.Brilliant by JP and brilliant for all gaa clubs.My point was though there are some very poor clubs that happen to be in big counties that will get away smaller amounts than maybe wealthier ckubs in smaller counties.Thats not JP s worry nor and any money is better than none.However some on here think i begrugde some clubs which could nt be further from thw truth.Some just see what they want to see! CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3683 - 17/12/2023 15:46:04 2517184 Link
A tremendous act of generosity by JP and the McManus family. A truly great Gael - a wonderful supporter of our games, right to the grassroots. Thank you. togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 911 - 17/12/2023 16:04:48 2517187 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "Begrudging, window dressed as knit picking? Wtf? The point is completely fair. The less clubs a county has, the more money they get. Simples. And I think what McManus has done is great btw." Thank you Galway. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3683 - 17/12/2023 16:08:24 2517188 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "To all in Sundry! I think its great so many gaa clubs will benefit from JP McManus s ultra generous gift.Brilliant by JP and brilliant for all gaa clubs.My point was though there are some very poor clubs that happen to be in big counties that will get away smaller amounts than maybe wealthier ckubs in smaller counties.Thats not JP s worry nor and any money is better than none.However some on here think i begrugde some clubs which could nt be further from thw truth.Some just see what they want to see!" I'll ask the question again... do you think people cannot divide numbers? Your original point or fact as you call it yourself, was offered up without any further context which you make it out to be an issue that needs to be considered. Your message above offers some context but ultimately the point your making is pointless unless you consider it to be an issue on the way the money is divided (i.e. counties with more clubs get less money)? Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 848 - 17/12/2023 16:42:01 2517198 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "To all in Sundry! I think its great so many gaa clubs will benefit from JP McManus s ultra generous gift.Brilliant by JP and brilliant for all gaa clubs.My point was though there are some very poor clubs that happen to be in big counties that will get away smaller amounts than maybe wealthier ckubs in smaller counties.Thats not JP s worry nor and any money is better than none.However some on here think i begrugde some clubs which could nt be further from thw truth.Some just see what they want to see!" Folks, if you have been on HS any decent length of time at all, you will or should realize that CiarraiMick is one of the most sporting, magnanimous posters on here. From my analysis of many topics of conversation and controversy on this site, I wouldn't hesitate to say that there isn't one bone of begrudgery in Mick's body. He made a point, an accurate one actually, and certain posters jumped on it as if Mick was being negative towards JP. Not at all was he. In the end of the day, the lesson is that JP cannot please all of the people all of the time. To do so would be impossible. But as a firm Limerick supporter, he pleases me all of the time. A good Clare friend of mine over the past couple of years would, half-jokingly say, "Oh, but if we had only a portion of JP's money...". As I texted him a few days ago, "You have it now!" foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1939 - 17/12/2023 17:09:55 2517204 Link
Replying To Square_B: "I'll ask the question again... do you think people cannot divide numbers? Your original point or fact as you call it yourself, was offered up without any further context which you make it out to be an issue that needs to be considered. Your message above offers some context but ultimately the point your making is pointless unless you consider it to be an issue on the way the money is divided (i.e. counties with more clubs get less money)?" I just made a valid point and im sure many can divide numbers .You seem to have a problem with my facts.I have explained already.You brought up about JP McManus and his taxes.Do you begrudge JP his wealth.You obviously have a problem with it.!You see its easy swith tne narative.If you cant inderstand my point then either ask someone that does or just ignore. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3683 - 17/12/2023 17:46:51 2517208 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "To all in Sundry! I think its great so many gaa clubs will benefit from JP McManus s ultra generous gift.Brilliant by JP and brilliant for all gaa clubs.My point was though there are some very poor clubs that happen to be in big counties that will get away smaller amounts than maybe wealthier ckubs in smaller counties.Thats not JP s worry nor and any money is better than none.However some on here think i begrugde some clubs which could nt be further from thw truth.Some just see what they want to see!" Wouldn't it have been better if McManus had donated the money to the GAA, and asked/instructed them to distribute the money to the counties in an equitable manner? Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2482 - 17/12/2023 18:14:35 2517212 Link
Replying To foreveryoung: "Folks, if you have been on HS any decent length of time at all, you will or should realize that CiarraiMick is one of the most sporting, magnanimous posters on here. From my analysis of many topics of conversation and controversy on this site, I wouldn't hesitate to say that there isn't one bone of begrudgery in Mick's body. He made a point, an accurate one actually, and certain posters jumped on it as if Mick was being negative towards JP. Not at all was he. In the end of the day, the lesson is that JP cannot please all of the people all of the time. To do so would be impossible. But as a firm Limerick supporter, he pleases me all of the time. A good Clare friend of mine over the past couple of years would, half-jokingly say, "Oh, but if we had only a portion of JP's money...". As I texted him a few days ago, "You have it now!"" Thanks Forever.Very kind words.Not sure i deserve that but thank you all the same. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3683 - 17/12/2023 19:28:03 2517219 Link