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Perhaps if you look at the idea for what it is worth and if say the Clubs that are in Nothern Ireland , which is part of the United Kingdom land amss were to stretch out the hand of friendship to our non Catholics friends up there .
This gesture of playing Ireland call may hold out the hand of frienship" Tom you could march up and down Cavan town in a Union jack shirt and half of Loyalism would still tell you to **** off.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2522 - 23/10/2023 11:23:13
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Replying To galwayford: "It did not help the Irish team against the All blacks. I was surprised to see the Blacks defeat the New Zealand B/Irish rugby team. TomSmith- Cavan are not good at GAA." You're in flying form this morning :-)
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2590 - 23/10/2023 12:14:02
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "You're in flying form this morning :-)" I would not regard them as representing the Irish people.
Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 23/10/2023 12:34:41
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Replying To Ashrules: "I would not regard them as representing the Irish people." why?
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3514 - 23/10/2023 13:17:58
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(It's entertaining how many people respond to this guys posts.)
What are your thoughts Tom on Limericks drive for 5..any sage wisdom to offer?
skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1067 - 23/10/2023 17:36:50
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Would the Cavanman let us know when he might give a version of the "foreigner's" anthem in the Square in Cross. I'd like to be there. It would give us an idea as to how it might be received in six counties.
19616609 (Louth) - Posts: 1597 - 28/10/2023 02:06:35
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You will never please Unionists i wouldnt even try anything to please them they have been a scourge on our country for hundreds of years
highdropingball (Donegal) - Posts: 99 - 28/10/2023 12:21:58
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Replying To highdropingball: "You will never please Unionists i wouldnt even try anything to please them they have been a scourge on our country for hundreds of years" High Dropping Ball Dunegal
Your generalist view that it would be impossible to please our Unionist friends from Nothern Iireland all the time is simplistic. You have got to remember whether we like it or not these people ( Unionist Population) who adore the Queen sorry now the King of England are of a different view point in relation to Southern Ireland affairs.
These people View Ireland sports as being different, and that is why I say Irelands call is a wholly netural anthem which may generate a sense of comrade if played at Sporting fixtures All sports like Hockey, Rugby, Gaa, Boles could all adopt this song. Sure it would be lovely if played in Cross and the Brethern down the road could join in . It would give them a sense of inclusiveness
tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3861 - 29/10/2023 02:23:48
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Replying To tomsmith: "High Dropping Ball Dunegal
Your generalist view that it would be impossible to please our Unionist friends from Nothern Iireland all the time is simplistic. You have got to remember whether we like it or not these people ( Unionist Population) who adore the Queen sorry now the King of England are of a different view point in relation to Southern Ireland affairs.
These people View Ireland sports as being different, and that is why I say Irelands call is a wholly netural anthem which may generate a sense of comrade if played at Sporting fixtures All sports like Hockey, Rugby, Gaa, Boles could all adopt this song. Sure it would be lovely if played in Cross and the Brethern down the road could join in . It would give them a sense of inclusiveness" You are being a bit naive. We could play "God save the King" and a lot of Unionist would just laugh at you, and demand that you swear an oath of allegiance next. To prove loyalty to them.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2522 - 29/10/2023 19:38:26
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Tomsmith here
Let some of the Nothern Ireland 400 Gaa clubs make a stand and insisit that Irelands Call be played at its Grounds for 2024.
I feel the Ulster yes ( Ulster says No ) brigade have to be enticed into the Gaa and indeed made feel welcome
So someone has to make a move on it and its best to be coming from an Ulster yes six County Club.
So stand up and be Counted
tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3861 - 30/10/2023 08:23:00
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Is Tom Smith a bot? He could be AI, but presumably not in the agricultural sense lol.
Lots of non-nationalists already play GAA. Lots opf lads form a nominally nationalist background are often largely apolitical They play for love of the sport and pride of place. Politics simply doesn't come into it. Further, the vast majority of Gaelic players play at club level, and the vast majority of games are league games, at which no anthem of any sort features.
The biggest barrier to Unionists playing Gaelic sports is not some irrelevant sideshow like an anthem, it's the fear that word would get out in their own community that they were socialising with non-Unionists. Gaelic fans, esp in rural areas, where good players are often at a premium, would jump at the chance of getting more lads from e.g. rugby backgrounds. The real impediment is community polarisation, which still is extreme.
Tom, not being form the North, doesn't understand this, and feels that tinkering with symbols and anthems will make any difference, but it won't.
points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 242 - 30/10/2023 14:18:56
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Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet: "Is Tom Smith a bot? He could be AI, but presumably not in the agricultural sense lol.
Lots of non-nationalists already play GAA. Lots opf lads form a nominally nationalist background are often largely apolitical They play for love of the sport and pride of place. Politics simply doesn't come into it. Further, the vast majority of Gaelic players play at club level, and the vast majority of games are league games, at which no anthem of any sort features.
The biggest barrier to Unionists playing Gaelic sports is not some irrelevant sideshow like an anthem, it's the fear that word would get out in their own community that they were socialising with non-Unionists. Gaelic fans, esp in rural areas, where good players are often at a premium, would jump at the chance of getting more lads from e.g. rugby backgrounds. The real impediment is community polarisation, which still is extreme.
Tom, not being form the North, doesn't understand this, and feels that tinkering with symbols and anthems will make any difference, but it won't." Think our esteemed friend Tom is just having a bit of fun. Don't take him seriously,
Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 217 - 30/10/2023 20:10:45
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Replying To Ryanteam: "Think our esteemed friend Tom is just having a bit of fun. Don't take him seriously," Just play the John Joe Reilly song.
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1451 - 31/10/2023 11:22:59
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Tom-What did ye play at Breffni Park at the match a couple of week ago?- was it the 'sash my... wore'. There is nothing played at 99% of matches so it is no big deal and irrelevant.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 31/10/2023 19:44:15
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Replying To tomsmith: "Tomsmith here from County Cavan
Listening to Ireland call on Saturday evening and looking at the 100 % Irish participation in every word of it I wonder if iot was played before Gaa games instead of the National Anthem would it appeal to more people to participate from the wider community. The Gaa is somewhat lost to a large group of people in for instance Nothern IIreland .
It would be worth considering if we were / want to atrack people who have an allegiance to an non EEC Country" Please stop.
cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 779 - 01/11/2023 15:09:13
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Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet: "Is Tom Smith a bot? He could be AI, but presumably not in the agricultural sense lol.
Lots of non-nationalists already play GAA. Lots opf lads form a nominally nationalist background are often largely apolitical They play for love of the sport and pride of place. Politics simply doesn't come into it. Further, the vast majority of Gaelic players play at club level, and the vast majority of games are league games, at which no anthem of any sort features.
The biggest barrier to Unionists playing Gaelic sports is not some irrelevant sideshow like an anthem, it's the fear that word would get out in their own community that they were socialising with non-Unionists. Gaelic fans, esp in rural areas, where good players are often at a premium, would jump at the chance of getting more lads from e.g. rugby backgrounds. The real impediment is community polarisation, which still is extreme.
Tom, not being form the North, doesn't understand this, and feels that tinkering with symbols and anthems will make any difference, but it won't." no he isnt a bot or AI.
He's a terrible troll who's trolling is of a very poor standard that catches far too many people
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3514 - 02/11/2023 10:38:53
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Replying To KillingFields: "no he isnt a bot or AI.
He's a terrible troll who's trolling is of a very poor standard that catches far too many people" I aware that you dont know or understand the connotations of playing the National anthem un in Noothern Ireland.
If you did you would know and understand that playing Irelands call would be a netural mverion of The Sothern Irealnds National anthem
tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3861 - 03/12/2023 17:41:41
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I think just not play the anthem, get on with the game
DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 269 - 03/12/2023 18:46:12
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Get the flock outta here!
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 03/12/2023 21:40:51
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Replying To tomsmith: "I aware that you dont know or understand the connotations of playing the National anthem un in Noothern Ireland.
If you did you would know and understand that playing Irelands call would be a netural mverion of The Sothern Irealnds National anthem" "of The Sothern Irealnds National anthem"
What and where is Southern Ireland?
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2482 - 04/12/2023 12:54:50
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