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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Especially with looming legal issues on the latent CTE aspects too. You'd hear yer man Corcoran there on radio foaming at the mouth doing Munster games, about so-and-so 'smashing' so-and-so, smashing this, smashing that. There's a heavy physical price to be paid for all this smashing. Corkery is in a bad way. Fogarty was too, but improved when he got a coaching job."
Yeah I've noticed that phrase aswell Pope 'smashing' players. It seems an odd phrase to use in an age where concussion is becoming recognised as a life changing issue, there smashing each others brains is what they are doing.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 11/11/2023 16:04:04    2512431

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Replying To updwell:  "Yeah I've noticed that phrase aswell Pope 'smashing' players. It seems an odd phrase to use in an age where concussion is becoming recognised as a life changing issue, there smashing each others brains is what they are doing."
Easy to be talking with relish about "smashing" lads when it is not yourself being "smashed" :-)

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2590 - 11/11/2023 16:49:07    2512434

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Replying To updwell:  "Yeah I've noticed that phrase aswell Pope 'smashing' players. It seems an odd phrase to use in an age where concussion is becoming recognised as a life changing issue, there smashing each others brains is what they are doing."
What phrase should be used then?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3514 - 11/11/2023 18:35:31    2512454

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Replying To KillingFields:  "What phrase should be used then?"
No new clubs being formed in Connacht.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7908 - 11/11/2023 20:17:40    2512465

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "No new clubs being formed in Connacht."
In what time frame are we talking about again.
Many clubs fielding at age grade when they weren't before or fielding far more teams than before and there is new clubs like South sligo, crossmolina

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3514 - 11/11/2023 20:35:16    2512467

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "No new clubs being formed in Connacht."
In what time frame are you saying no new clubs formed at any level

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3514 - 11/11/2023 20:55:26    2512470

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "No new clubs being formed in Connacht."
Since when are you definitely stating no new clubs have been formed in Connacht.
Who are you stating the last club formed in Connacht was?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3514 - 11/11/2023 22:09:16    2512478

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "No new clubs being formed in Connacht."
Since when?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3514 - 12/11/2023 00:39:50    2512485

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Replying To KillingFields:  "What phrase should be used then?"
Would tackling not be a more appropriate word rather than glorifying this hits with the phrase 'smashing'.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 12/11/2023 08:08:57    2512491

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Replying To KillingFields:  "In what time frame are we talking about again.
Many clubs fielding at age grade when they weren't before or fielding far more teams than before and there is new clubs like South sligo, crossmolina"
South Sligo?? How is that going? What was it set up for? Crossmolina was not set up as a stand alone club, it's run and owned by Ballina RFC and is for mini rugby to develop players for Ballina.

After finally responding that's the best you could come up with in the your........ Google search I guess?

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7908 - 12/11/2023 08:38:55    2512494

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Replying To updwell:  "Yeah I've noticed that phrase aswell Pope 'smashing' players. It seems an odd phrase to use in an age where concussion is becoming recognised as a life changing issue, there smashing each others brains is what they are doing."
In fairness no commentator on any physical contact game is any different - the GAA lads call it big hits. The GAA has yet to take head injuries serious. There are still too many willing to make excuses for illegal hits and too many players trying to claim that they have been hit in the head when they were not. While you can pick out the odd high profile example, generally from club up to international level feigning injury to get other players into trouble is not a thing in rugby. So yeah while they smash into each other at least they do it legally and lads are not rolling around the ground holding their heads when they get hit.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1806 - 12/11/2023 09:45:14    2512499

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Replying To zinny:  "In fairness no commentator on any physical contact game is any different - the GAA lads call it big hits. The GAA has yet to take head injuries serious. There are still too many willing to make excuses for illegal hits and too many players trying to claim that they have been hit in the head when they were not. While you can pick out the odd high profile example, generally from club up to international level feigning injury to get other players into trouble is not a thing in rugby. So yeah while they smash into each other at least they do it legally and lads are not rolling around the ground holding their heads when they get hit."
Are you seriously trying to equate tackling in rugby to tackling in GAA, in rugby the game is all about looking for contact now while GAA is about avoiding contact and going around an opponent. You seem to be typical of rugby people who talk about concussion as an issue but behind it all you want to do nothing about it because it might interfere with your entertainment or stop kids from taking up the game.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 12/11/2023 16:59:34    2512563

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Replying To KillingFields:  "In what time frame are we talking about again.
Many clubs fielding at age grade when they weren't before or fielding far more teams than before and there is new clubs like South sligo, crossmolina"
I'm not aware of any new club anywhere in Sligo and definitely there's nothing in South Sligo either old or new.

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1672 - 12/11/2023 20:38:17    2512595

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Replying To updwell:  "Are you seriously trying to equate tackling in rugby to tackling in GAA, in rugby the game is all about looking for contact now while GAA is about avoiding contact and going around an opponent. You seem to be typical of rugby people who talk about concussion as an issue but behind it all you want to do nothing about it because it might interfere with your entertainment or stop kids from taking up the game."
Zinny is a diehard football man judging by his posts over many years

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12114 - 13/11/2023 11:29:39    2512659

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Especially with looming legal issues on the latent CTE aspects too. You'd hear yer man Corcoran there on radio foaming at the mouth doing Munster games, about so-and-so 'smashing' so-and-so, smashing this, smashing that. There's a heavy physical price to be paid for all this smashing. Corkery is in a bad way. Fogarty was too, but improved when he got a coaching job."
Physical contact is central to rugby so in fairness it's a very difficult issue for rugby to deal with.

All Rugby can really do is try to mitigate the the risks a bit.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1361 - 13/11/2023 11:46:43    2512670

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Replying To eoinog:  "I'm not aware of any new club anywhere in Sligo and definitely there's nothing in South Sligo either old or new."
There had been some club in South sligo for a period though they could have merged into the club put in strandhill
There def was a club set up around 2012 in South of the county...

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3514 - 13/11/2023 18:31:06    2512809

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Replying To Viking66:  "Zinny is a diehard football man judging by his posts over many years"
A diehard GAA man Viking! but I would rather see kids play some sport than no sport at all and what I don't agree with is people trying to put down other sports and ignoring the problems in the GAA .

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1806 - 13/11/2023 23:10:50    2512837

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Replying To updwell:  "Are you seriously trying to equate tackling in rugby to tackling in GAA, in rugby the game is all about looking for contact now while GAA is about avoiding contact and going around an opponent. You seem to be typical of rugby people who talk about concussion as an issue but behind it all you want to do nothing about it because it might interfere with your entertainment or stop kids from taking up the game."
You are not very good at understanding the meaning of posts and anyone who thinks that rugby is about 15 players trying to all hit each other hasn't spent much time out from under the rock. Rugby knows it has a problem with head hits and is trying to deal with it - the GAA has a problem with head hits and is burying its head in the sand. In rugby the onus is on the player making the challenge to ensure the safety of the player, I have never once heard the same said about the GAA when a player gets hit in the head - all you hear is that its was unluck, he is not a dirty player, there was no malice in it. On a regular basis there are hits in the GAA that would warrant red cards in Rugby and the player hit leaving the field. - The GAA only introduced a replacement sub for concussion in 2021 - one wonders was the delay due to the fact they thought concussion in the GAA didn't exist or teams would game the system.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1806 - 13/11/2023 23:29:36    2512840

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Replying To KillingFields:  "There had been some club in South sligo for a period though they could have merged into the club put in strandhill
There def was a club set up around 2012 in South of the county..."
You think ....maybe.....something was set up over 10 years ago....but maybe isn't there anymore. That's all you have? It's amazing how you argue against rugby people who are actively involved in clubs in Connacht and try and spoof. No new clubs as I stated. Thanks.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7908 - 14/11/2023 09:33:45    2512852

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "You think ....maybe.....something was set up over 10 years ago....but maybe isn't there anymore. That's all you have? It's amazing how you argue against rugby people who are actively involved in clubs in Connacht and try and spoof. No new clubs as I stated. Thanks."
As if you don't spoof.
I've been active in Connacht rugby for years at all levels on pitch and off.
There had been teams there
What people here are active and what clubs?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3514 - 14/11/2023 10:07:56    2512859

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