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I'll just go with who I think stand a realistic chance
If Derry put a small couple of things right, they could well find themselves in a great place in 2024. Think playing Div 1 will also prep them better for a good championship run. They were a whisker away in 2023.
Dublin as defending champions are already at a big disadvantage, it was hard enough to put in back to backs the last time, it took 3 goes.. don't see it. Also a lot of variables at play in the here and now with Dublin that will have a big impact.
Kerry only have to fix a couple of small things, O'Connor coming back from Oz could be massive, they'll be hurting too, that'll give them focus, they for me will probably win in 24. They've alot going for them, not easy to win back to back.
Galway, it all fell apart very quickly this year, they hit some poor form and that was that, I wonder if they just struggled with the panel they have to put in two big years in a row, maybe a dodgy championship season might actually help a bigger push in 24.
Mayo, there were some promising performances in year one for McStay, they are a good side, but scoring forwards look short, they'll probably go on another run and get people talking but it would be a huge improvement to go from where they left off to all of a sudden win Sam.
Tyrone, very unlucky with the recent injury news, big loss, hard to see them challenging, they were poor against Kerry, hammered. It would be some turn around to find themselves back with a big shout.
Monaghan, implemented an impressive plan against Dublin that took the Dubs plenty of time to get around, will they have the panel and legs to put in two big years in a row? It's not easy.. good team though and there's great work being done.
Next year's final:
Kerry v Derry
Winners Kerry.
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20608 - 09/08/2023 14:34:16
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"Round of 12"
4 Groups Winners v 4 Third Placed
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Six winners - 2 best group records to SFs, other 4 to QFs.
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2644 - 14/08/2023 15:40:05
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Replying To jimbodub: "I'll just go with who I think stand a realistic chance
If Derry put a small couple of things right, they could well find themselves in a great place in 2024. Think playing Div 1 will also prep them better for a good championship run. They were a whisker away in 2023.
Dublin as defending champions are already at a big disadvantage, it was hard enough to put in back to backs the last time, it took 3 goes.. don't see it. Also a lot of variables at play in the here and now with Dublin that will have a big impact.
Kerry only have to fix a couple of small things, O'Connor coming back from Oz could be massive, they'll be hurting too, that'll give them focus, they for me will probably win in 24. They've alot going for them, not easy to win back to back.
Galway, it all fell apart very quickly this year, they hit some poor form and that was that, I wonder if they just struggled with the panel they have to put in two big years in a row, maybe a dodgy championship season might actually help a bigger push in 24.
Mayo, there were some promising performances in year one for McStay, they are a good side, but scoring forwards look short, they'll probably go on another run and get people talking but it would be a huge improvement to go from where they left off to all of a sudden win Sam.
Tyrone, very unlucky with the recent injury news, big loss, hard to see them challenging, they were poor against Kerry, hammered. It would be some turn around to find themselves back with a big shout.
Monaghan, implemented an impressive plan against Dublin that took the Dubs plenty of time to get around, will they have the panel and legs to put in two big years in a row? It's not easy.. good team though and there's great work being done.
Next year's final:
Kerry v Derry
Winners Kerry." I think Galway could make the final next year tbh.
Depends on the semi final draw of course.....
Not so sure Derry will. Cant see Tyrone being as poor when it counts next season, and the 2 Canavan lads will improve even more.
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"Galway, it all fell apart very quickly this year, they hit some poor form and that was that"
Galway's form this year was fairly consistent all year. Holding sides to low scores in pretty much every league or championship game they played was a war attrition. Got over the line in fine margin contests such as Armagh in the Athletic Grounds , Roscommon in Hyde Park while those fine margins didn't go their way against Armagh in Carrick on Shannon or their last game Mayo.
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Replying To Fionn: "I think Galway could make the final next year tbh.
Depends on the semi final draw of course.....
Not so sure Derry will. Cant see Tyrone being as poor when it counts next season, and the 2 Canavan lads will improve even more." Nothing in Galway's form this Summer suggests they'll be in the Final next year. Dublin and Kerry will still be the teams to beat I'd say. Kerry will be hungry to make amends but Dublin may well do back to back titles. I'd have Dublin as favourites with Kerry a close second. Maybe Derry after that. Hard to see a team coming out of the pack. I'd say Tyrone are a couple of years away. I think Armagh made a mistake sticking with McGeeney and expect more of the same there.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2185 - 15/08/2023 06:25:14
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Replying To endgame: "Nothing in Galway's form this Summer suggests they'll be in the Final next year. Dublin and Kerry will still be the teams to beat I'd say. Kerry will be hungry to make amends but Dublin may well do back to back titles. I'd have Dublin as favourites with Kerry a close second. Maybe Derry after that. Hard to see a team coming out of the pack. I'd say Tyrone are a couple of years away. I think Armagh made a mistake sticking with McGeeney and expect more of the same there." Would be only great to see 2 new teams coming out of "the pack".
Very few signs of it in the closing rounds of the 2023 Championship unfortunately.
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Replying To endgame: "Nothing in Galway's form this Summer suggests they'll be in the Final next year. Dublin and Kerry will still be the teams to beat I'd say. Kerry will be hungry to make amends but Dublin may well do back to back titles. I'd have Dublin as favourites with Kerry a close second. Maybe Derry after that. Hard to see a team coming out of the pack. I'd say Tyrone are a couple of years away. I think Armagh made a mistake sticking with McGeeney and expect more of the same there." From a Dublin point of view it very much depends on who stays on. If the panel more or less remains I would expect the Dubs to improve next year, they were very unsure of their level this year, with div2 league and no game against a div1 side until Rossies. Any doubts they had are very much dispelled plus the possibility of having a fully fit McCaffrey and Murchan. Lee Gannon improving year on year and what will 2023 have done for the confidence of Basquel. Bugler to come back as well. Howard also looks to be finding a new level.
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 687 - 15/08/2023 12:33:28
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"Round of 12"
4 Groups Winners v 4 Third Placed
2 Second Placed v 2 Second Placed
Six winners - 2 best group records to SFs, other 4 to QFs.
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2644 - 15/08/2023 14:36:31
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Replying To omahant: "Again....Would jeopardy be increased in the AI SFC group phase, if the KO pairings were the following? -
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4 Groups Winners v 4 Third Placed
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Six winners - 2 best group records to SFs, other 4 to QFs." Have a kitkat.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2023 - 15/08/2023 15:29:05
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Replying To omahant: "Again....Would jeopardy be increased in the AI SFC group phase, if the KO pairings were the following? -
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Six winners - 2 best group records to SFs, other 4 to QFs." I think they should have lots of groups and do the alphabetically and have two teams qualify from each group to qualify for the real championship. Group A will only have Armagh so they automatically qualify as do Galway in group G. Kerry will be in group K with Kildare and Kilkenny so I fancy ourselves and Kildare there. Group C will have Cork Clare and Cavan and group T will have Tyrone and Tipp going through. Group D will have Dubs Down Derry Donegal lol and group M will have Mayo Monaghan Meath and so on. Now "Onahant what do you think of that"
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3687 - 15/08/2023 22:12:30
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Replying To CiarraiMick: "I think they should have lots of groups and do the alphabetically and have two teams qualify from each group to qualify for the real championship. Group A will only have Armagh so they automatically qualify as do Galway in group G. Kerry will be in group K with Kildare and Kilkenny so I fancy ourselves and Kildare there. Group C will have Cork Clare and Cavan and group T will have Tyrone and Tipp going through. Group D will have Dubs Down Derry Donegal lol and group M will have Mayo Monaghan Meath and so on. Now "Onahant what do you think of that"" I think Antrim might have a thing or two to say about that
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Replying To CiarraiMick: "I think they should have lots of groups and do the alphabetically and have two teams qualify from each group to qualify for the real championship. Group A will only have Armagh so they automatically qualify as do Galway in group G. Kerry will be in group K with Kildare and Kilkenny so I fancy ourselves and Kildare there. Group C will have Cork Clare and Cavan and group T will have Tyrone and Tipp going through. Group D will have Dubs Down Derry Donegal lol and group M will have Mayo Monaghan Meath and so on. Now "Onahant what do you think of that"" Louth will have Laois, Longford, Leitrim and London. I will take this. Nice weekends away in London and Carrick.
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Replying To Ollie2: "Louth will have Laois, Longford, Leitrim and London. I will take this. Nice weekends away in London and Carrick." Yeah and Limerick Ollie lol.
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Replying To Whestofthewest: "I think Antrim might have a thing or two to say about that" Oh of course I forgot. Antrim and Armagh.
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Replying To CiarraiMick: "Yeah and Limerick Ollie lol." How could I forget about Limerick?
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Replying To CiarraiMick: "I think they should have lots of groups and do the alphabetically and have two teams qualify from each group to qualify for the real championship. Group A will only have Armagh so they automatically qualify as do Galway in group G. Kerry will be in group K with Kildare and Kilkenny so I fancy ourselves and Kildare there. Group C will have Cork Clare and Cavan and group T will have Tyrone and Tipp going through. Group D will have Dubs Down Derry Donegal lol and group M will have Mayo Monaghan Meath and so on. Now "Onahant what do you think of that"" Group X would be tough to get out of and impossible to get into.
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2644 - 16/08/2023 17:12:04
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Replying To CiarraiMick: "I think they should have lots of groups and do the alphabetically and have two teams qualify from each group to qualify for the real championship. Group A will only have Armagh so they automatically qualify as do Galway in group G. Kerry will be in group K with Kildare and Kilkenny so I fancy ourselves and Kildare there. Group C will have Cork Clare and Cavan and group T will have Tyrone and Tipp going through. Group D will have Dubs Down Derry Donegal lol and group M will have Mayo Monaghan Meath and so on. Now "Onahant what do you think of that"" Brilliant idea Mick!!! What about Carlow though? Are they eliminated because they have 3 colours and are Offaly eliminated for the same reason? Would ourselves, Westmeath, Waterford and Wicklow be allowed to hurl in half of our games in the group? Just to mix it up a little?!
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Replying To Viking66: "Brilliant idea Mick!!! What about Carlow though? Are they eliminated because they have 3 colours and are Offaly eliminated for the same reason? Would ourselves, Westmeath, Waterford and Wicklow be allowed to hurl in half of our games in the group? Just to mix it up a little?!" Yeah Viking I forgot about Carlow ah no I would nt allow half hurling as we have Kilkenny in our group ha ha
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3687 - 17/08/2023 10:59:49
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According to yesterday's Irish Times report the GAA don't foresee any changes to the Inter County SFC next year.
Hiw will Omochat cope?
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1463 - 17/08/2023 11:57:50
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Replying To Seanfanbocht: "According to yesterday's Irish Times report the GAA don't foresee any changes to the Inter County SFC next year.
Hiw will Omochat cope?" Good question ha ha. Seriously though 3 teams out of 4 qualifying is a bit much for the last 16.
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