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Replying To Inatfullforward: "It's pretty clear that the split season and congestion is not to blame here. The dogs on the street know well that this is a money making machine. We pay licence fee, the taxpayers subsidise rte, we pay tv subscription, now they want us to pay again?? The organisation that is the Gaa is built from the ground up.. i.e. Volunteers. Let me tell you that those volunteers patients are running out and who'd blame them. RTE or the upper etilons in the GAA do not care tuppence about grassroots." We're you happier last year paying for Sky Sports GAA coverage with a lot less live games and no games on playback?
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Replying To GreenandRed: "We're you happier last year paying for Sky Sports GAA coverage with a lot less live games and no games on playback?" I didnt pay for Sky Sports nor will I pay for Gaa Go. There are plenty of homes in this country with enough bills without our national Broadcaster and our supposed own national sport organisation (Gaa) pillaging us for more. Myself and others here are merely trying to sympathise with those who pay to their clubs through lotto, support their County team, lots giving hours every week to fundraising & preparing teams, pay all of the above mentioned and are asked for more money..
When Sky swooped in we had plenty of lads who saw only the money and happy to jump on the bandwagon and trotted out the lines like "pay per view sky sports will benefit our game and advertise our national sport all over the world" Well this dream sank quickly when Sky pulled out due to lack of profits. I don't hear them boys worried about advertising our national game abroad now??! It's all about the money money money.. A blind man would see that
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Frankly, I find it strange that three men younger than myself and a barman of indeterminate age were unable to figure out between them how to browse to a site and input a few details in order to stream a match.
Even stranger if you were one of them. You're obviously computer-literate enough to know how to create an e-mail address, how to register on a site like this, how to log in whenever you want to, and how to post.
I wouldn't have thought that creating an account on GAA GO and browsing to the match you want to watch would have been all that different." Well if you find that strange I'm sorry. It did happen though. Maybe you should get out and about more and mix with people who have much less ability that yourself. Then you will understand.
Inatfullforward (Longford) - Posts: 93 - 27/06/2023 17:29:13
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I see they are throwing Dee Forbes under the bus, handy scapegoat now she has resigned and is unavailable to comment or appear before the PAC.
I'm impressed by the protest by the NUJ outside RTE. you would feel sorry for the good genuine people who work there alright, I have no time for these overpaid top presenters though, their maximum pay should be capped at say 200k and even that is too high, if that's not good enough for them they can p1ss off.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2761 - 27/06/2023 17:40:30
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Replying To Inatfullforward: "I didnt pay for Sky Sports nor will I pay for Gaa Go. There are plenty of homes in this country with enough bills without our national Broadcaster and our supposed own national sport organisation (Gaa) pillaging us for more. Myself and others here are merely trying to sympathise with those who pay to their clubs through lotto, support their County team, lots giving hours every week to fundraising & preparing teams, pay all of the above mentioned and are asked for more money..
When Sky swooped in we had plenty of lads who saw only the money and happy to jump on the bandwagon and trotted out the lines like "pay per view sky sports will benefit our game and advertise our national sport all over the world" Well this dream sank quickly when Sky pulled out due to lack of profits. I don't hear them boys worried about advertising our national game abroad now??! It's all about the money money money.. A blind man would see that" I agree with that. It's the €160 RTE tax I have a bigger issue with. I told some American friends we pay for a licence and they laughed at me. 'You pay for the cable and a licence. You guys are crazy! " But also I honestly think GAAGO is a much better offering than the Sky deal, albeit not free either and it was €60 for 38 games last December.
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Replying To Inatfullforward: "Well if you find that strange I'm sorry. It did happen though. Maybe you should get out and about more and mix with people who have much less ability that yourself. Then you will understand." I don't doubt that it happened. But I do find it strange. Again, you're obviously well versed enough in such things to be able to create an account here, browse around the different threads, and throw up a post wherever you want to. I don't understand why you can't negotiate your way around the GAA GO website in much the same way.
For what it's worth, I know several people who couldn't do it themselves. But these are people who don't use the internet at all. They're not people who contribute to a GAA forum or do other stuff online, but for whom streaming a match is for odd reason a bridge too far.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2258 - 27/06/2023 17:50:46
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Replying To Inatfullforward: "I didnt pay for Sky Sports nor will I pay for Gaa Go. There are plenty of homes in this country with enough bills without our national Broadcaster and our supposed own national sport organisation (Gaa) pillaging us for more. Myself and others here are merely trying to sympathise with those who pay to their clubs through lotto, support their County team, lots giving hours every week to fundraising & preparing teams, pay all of the above mentioned and are asked for more money..
When Sky swooped in we had plenty of lads who saw only the money and happy to jump on the bandwagon and trotted out the lines like "pay per view sky sports will benefit our game and advertise our national sport all over the world" Well this dream sank quickly when Sky pulled out due to lack of profits. I don't hear them boys worried about advertising our national game abroad now??! It's all about the money money money.. A blind man would see that" Sky didn't pull out over lack of profits. Main reason they pulled out was that they wanted the sort of control over fixtures that the GAA simply wasn't willing to give them.
Basically, they wanted it so that if they were showing a match live, no other match could take place at the same time (same as applies with their coverage of the English Premier League. Apart from the final day of the season when all matches are played concurrently, there's never a match to clash with one that Sky are showing live).
With so many matches to be played, GAA refused to do that. If they'd agreed, Sky would have renewed the deal. But the GAA refused, and rightly so.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2258 - 27/06/2023 17:55:35
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Replying To Inatfullforward: "I didnt pay for Sky Sports nor will I pay for Gaa Go. There are plenty of homes in this country with enough bills without our national Broadcaster and our supposed own national sport organisation (Gaa) pillaging us for more. Myself and others here are merely trying to sympathise with those who pay to their clubs through lotto, support their County team, lots giving hours every week to fundraising & preparing teams, pay all of the above mentioned and are asked for more money..
When Sky swooped in we had plenty of lads who saw only the money and happy to jump on the bandwagon and trotted out the lines like "pay per view sky sports will benefit our game and advertise our national sport all over the world" Well this dream sank quickly when Sky pulled out due to lack of profits. I don't hear them boys worried about advertising our national game abroad now??! It's all about the money money money.. A blind man would see that" So who is then to show games.
GAAgo exists because there isnt tv channels to show the games. they have to cover costs.
So if GAA go doesnt exist then who will cover the games.
it cant operate for free and yes people who do pay for their clubs lotto, etc will have to pay for this. thats life.
sky sports are irrelevant to this discussion.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3516 - 27/06/2023 17:57:19
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Replying To Inatfullforward: "I didnt pay for Sky Sports nor will I pay for Gaa Go. There are plenty of homes in this country with enough bills without our national Broadcaster and our supposed own national sport organisation (Gaa) pillaging us for more. Myself and others here are merely trying to sympathise with those who pay to their clubs through lotto, support their County team, lots giving hours every week to fundraising & preparing teams, pay all of the above mentioned and are asked for more money..
When Sky swooped in we had plenty of lads who saw only the money and happy to jump on the bandwagon and trotted out the lines like "pay per view sky sports will benefit our game and advertise our national sport all over the world" Well this dream sank quickly when Sky pulled out due to lack of profits. I don't hear them boys worried about advertising our national game abroad now??! It's all about the money money money.. A blind man would see that" you then will complain if RTE dont show games. they cant afford to show more games.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3516 - 27/06/2023 18:09:11
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Replying To Inatfullforward: "I didnt pay for Sky Sports nor will I pay for Gaa Go. There are plenty of homes in this country with enough bills without our national Broadcaster and our supposed own national sport organisation (Gaa) pillaging us for more. Myself and others here are merely trying to sympathise with those who pay to their clubs through lotto, support their County team, lots giving hours every week to fundraising & preparing teams, pay all of the above mentioned and are asked for more money..
When Sky swooped in we had plenty of lads who saw only the money and happy to jump on the bandwagon and trotted out the lines like "pay per view sky sports will benefit our game and advertise our national sport all over the world" Well this dream sank quickly when Sky pulled out due to lack of profits. I don't hear them boys worried about advertising our national game abroad now??! It's all about the money money money.. A blind man would see that" Croke Park wanted pay per View from day 1. When Sky first entered the market, TV3 (now Virgin Media) offered the GAA the EXACT SAME AMOUNT that Sky offered. But the suits wanted PPV regardless.
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Replying To KillingFields: "you then will complain if RTE dont show games. they cant afford to show more games." Why can't they afford it? Do you have the figures?
Inatfullforward (Longford) - Posts: 93 - 27/06/2023 22:38:29
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Replying To KillingFields: "So who is then to show games.
GAAgo exists because there isnt tv channels to show the games. they have to cover costs.
So if GAA go doesnt exist then who will cover the games.
it cant operate for free and yes people who do pay for their clubs lotto, etc will have to pay for this. thats life.
sky sports are irrelevant to this discussion." Why isn't there enough channels on Saturday? Rte 2have racing on at 2:30 and the English DIY SOS at 5pm. Rte 1 has keeping up appearances at 2pm, Tom Curtain at 2:30 and the 1% club on at 5pm.. No place for the 2 quarter finals?? Didn't they use RTE 1 and RTE 2 on Sunday side by side for Tailten and prelim quarter finals? They can afford to pay Tubs a fortune over and above?? The advertisement on Saturday if they showed them games would be huge..wouldnt that bring in hundreds of thousands over the 2 games?? Would proper management and common sense not make it work this wknd?? Why do we have to buckle to the suits here?? We know that RTE is a shambles and can make this work
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Replying To KillingFields: "So who is then to show games.
GAAgo exists because there isnt tv channels to show the games. they have to cover costs.
So if GAA go doesnt exist then who will cover the games.
it cant operate for free and yes people who do pay for their clubs lotto, etc will have to pay for this. thats life.
sky sports are irrelevant to this discussion." Were they not the predecessor to Gaago?
Inatfullforward (Longford) - Posts: 93 - 27/06/2023 22:56:16
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Sky didn't pull out over lack of profits. Main reason they pulled out was that they wanted the sort of control over fixtures that the GAA simply wasn't willing to give them.
Basically, they wanted it so that if they were showing a match live, no other match could take place at the same time (same as applies with their coverage of the English Premier League. Apart from the final day of the season when all matches are played concurrently, there's never a match to clash with one that Sky are showing live).
With so many matches to be played, GAA refused to do that. If they'd agreed, Sky would have renewed the deal. But the GAA refused, and rightly so." Thats not the full story though.
SKY also wanted more of the top games, SKY wanted to cover more Munster hurling matches was one example, during SKY's time the top Munster hurling games was very much kept within the remit of RTE.
Then SKY exit stage left and hey presto what do we find on SKY GO only those sacred Munster Hurling games!
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Former President Seán Kelly hit nail on head yesterday. The GAA is not short of money and is deliberately disregarding the hundreds of thousands of volunteers who have kept the association going.
If the All Ireland quarter finals are not public interest - apart from fact that they would be watched by 4/500k people - then neither is League of Ireland or women's soccer or rugby which are shown at times when basically anything would get a bigger audience.
Another reason not to give RTÉ a cent, and another reason why people are losing patience with GAA.
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The catch phrase now is, GAAgoaway.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2911 - 28/06/2023 09:20:11
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Replying To Inatfullforward: "Why isn't there enough channels on Saturday? Rte 2have racing on at 2:30 and the English DIY SOS at 5pm. Rte 1 has keeping up appearances at 2pm, Tom Curtain at 2:30 and the 1% club on at 5pm.. No place for the 2 quarter finals?? Didn't they use RTE 1 and RTE 2 on Sunday side by side for Tailten and prelim quarter finals? They can afford to pay Tubs a fortune over and above?? The advertisement on Saturday if they showed them games would be huge..wouldnt that bring in hundreds of thousands over the 2 games?? Would proper management and common sense not make it work this wknd?? Why do we have to buckle to the suits here?? We know that RTE is a shambles and can make this work" RTE is, currently, the national broadcaster. There might be 100 people posting here regularly enough on Hoganstand, a lot more usernames unfortunately. We love GAA. But we're a drop in a drop in the ocean of all the nation where not everyone wants to watch or even likes GAA games.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7376 - 28/06/2023 09:45:00
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Replying To GreenandRed: "RTE is, currently, the national broadcaster. There might be 100 people posting here regularly enough on Hoganstand, a lot more usernames unfortunately. We love GAA. But we're a drop in a drop in the ocean of all the nation where not everyone wants to watch or even likes GAA games." The GAA is not a "drop in the ocean." The natives are obviously an inconvenience at this stage.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2595 - 28/06/2023 09:58:05
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Kerry fans can't be too happy that Dublin gets another free to air showcase while they have to use GAAgo again. Weird decision.
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Replying To tearintom: "Thats not the full story though.
SKY also wanted more of the top games, SKY wanted to cover more Munster hurling matches was one example, during SKY's time the top Munster hurling games was very much kept within the remit of RTE.
Then SKY exit stage left and hey presto what do we find on SKY GO only those sacred Munster Hurling games!" I know it's not the full story. I said it was the main reason, not the only reason.
It's true that RTE showed more Munster Hurling games last year than they did this year. But don't forget that last year, there were complaints from the football fraternity that Munster Hurling was dominating the airwaves too much, and that football wasn't getting enough of a look-in. So they reacted to that, and then other people complained this year about the exact opposite.
A real can't win situation.
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