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How long did he allow for the pitch invasion to get cleared? That was a total mess, and I think the referee panicked, stopped the game even though a free for Clare was imminent.That to me is the crux of the whole problem, and essentially blame falls on Limerick GAA and security at Gaelic Grounds.At the same venue in 2006 at an international rules game, several Aussies were shocked that spectators could come into field after the game. The GAA expects players to train like professionals, even though injuries decimate some teams,but the organization itself is as amateurish as it ever was."]I know for a fact that contracted security people - and i assume volunteer stewards - are told not to lay a finger on anyone in any circumstance at matches or concerts. So short of being able to raise electronic fences, there in no way to prevent a bunch of happy kids "invading" a pitch when they think the match is over, Nor ought there to be. It was a minor incident and hardly changed the outcome."]That is the crux an amateurish approach to a professional expectation by everyone. The amount of extra time is subjective and another load on the already over loaded ref. Use a time clock that is only running when the ball is in play. When the time is up the hooter goes and the game is over. An automated score recording. The ref waste more time writing scores and making the goalies go back again and start play because he is not ready. Of course you have the nonsense of it will take to long to play a game and not know when it may end. Or every club could not afford it. Our inter county competitions is elite sport and you cannot have the same facilities at lower levels. That is how it works in other sports. In Baseball now they have made changes and the games take a lot less time and are within 5 to 10 minutes predictable. Pitcher has time to make the throw. You can't keep stepping in and out of the box as it is now controlled and a few other adjustments."]the officials should still be recording the score even if there is a scoreboard. they are the decider if a team argued there was a wrong score listed somewhere etc or if there wasnt a scoreboard. same at any level. have the umpires or linesmen record score if not ref then. a time clock just isnt needed and certainly shouldnt only run when ball is in play. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3516 - 14/06/2023 19:23:03 2486507 Link 0 |
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Pretty impressive this made a second page.. Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 14/06/2023 19:31:52 2486512 Link 0 |
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Bookies certainly agree with you, again they Tip (no pun intended) Limerick!. Tipp are 9/1 to lift Liam, which isn't a bad little bet. A lot of games have been decided by a point or 2, and a lot depends on Tipp's injuries . I wouldn't discount a few shocks, Clare didn't perform after Munster final last year, and could be tough game with Dublin. Great championship so far, pity it's over in 6 weeks.
Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 221 - 14/06/2023 19:39:51 2486516 Link 0 |
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How long did he allow for the pitch invasion to get cleared? That was a total mess, and I think the referee panicked, stopped the game even though a free for Clare was imminent.That to me is the crux of the whole problem, and essentially blame falls on Limerick GAA and security at Gaelic Grounds.At the same venue in 2006 at an international rules game, several Aussies were shocked that spectators could come into field after the game. The GAA expects players to train like professionals, even though injuries decimate some teams,but the organization itself is as amateurish as it ever was."]I know for a fact that contracted security people - and i assume volunteer stewards - are told not to lay a finger on anyone in any circumstance at matches or concerts. So short of being able to raise electronic fences, there in no way to prevent a bunch of happy kids "invading" a pitch when they think the match is over, Nor ought there to be. It was a minor incident and hardly changed the outcome."]That is the crux an amateurish approach to a professional expectation by everyone. The amount of extra time is subjective and another load on the already over loaded ref. Use a time clock that is only running when the ball is in play. When the time is up the hooter goes and the game is over. An automated score recording. The ref waste more time writing scores and making the goalies go back again and start play because he is not ready. Of course you have the nonsense of it will take to long to play a game and not know when it may end. Or every club could not afford it. Our inter county competitions is elite sport and you cannot have the same facilities at lower levels. That is how it works in other sports. In Baseball now they have made changes and the games take a lot less time and are within 5 to 10 minutes predictable. Pitcher has time to make the throw. You can't keep stepping in and out of the box as it is now controlled and a few other adjustments."]Certainly has generated some interest. I see some hilarious sketches on Tic Toc from Clare supporters on the ending. Have to laugh Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 221 - 14/06/2023 19:43:07 2486518 Link 0 |
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Whatever about the extra time - and i didn't think there was any issue it while watching and Clare haven't made an issue of it - the "invasion" was just youngsters and a few not so youngsters thinking it was all over. Short of tasering them i don't see what might have been done! They left quickly too, so minor event. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2601 - 14/06/2023 19:44:56 2486519 Link 0 |
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1944 ! Probably back then the goalkeeper and the ball usually ended up in the back of the net. I think the 1976 Munster Football final should be replayed again! Cork were on rough end of decisions of referee Johnny Moloney that day. Hope the players can still perform!
Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 221 - 14/06/2023 19:46:51 2486520 Link 0 |
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How long did he allow for the pitch invasion to get cleared? That was a total mess, and I think the referee panicked, stopped the game even though a free for Clare was imminent.That to me is the crux of the whole problem, and essentially blame falls on Limerick GAA and security at Gaelic Grounds.At the same venue in 2006 at an international rules game, several Aussies were shocked that spectators could come into field after the game. The GAA expects players to train like professionals, even though injuries decimate some teams,but the organization itself is as amateurish as it ever was."]I know for a fact that contracted security people - and i assume volunteer stewards - are told not to lay a finger on anyone in any circumstance at matches or concerts. So short of being able to raise electronic fences, there in no way to prevent a bunch of happy kids "invading" a pitch when they think the match is over, Nor ought there to be. It was a minor incident and hardly changed the outcome."]That is the crux an amateurish approach to a professional expectation by everyone. The amount of extra time is subjective and another load on the already over loaded ref. Use a time clock that is only running when the ball is in play. When the time is up the hooter goes and the game is over. An automated score recording. The ref waste more time writing scores and making the goalies go back again and start play because he is not ready. Of course you have the nonsense of it will take to long to play a game and not know when it may end. Or every club could not afford it. Our inter county competitions is elite sport and you cannot have the same facilities at lower levels. That is how it works in other sports. In Baseball now they have made changes and the games take a lot less time and are within 5 to 10 minutes predictable. Pitcher has time to make the throw. You can't keep stepping in and out of the box as it is now controlled and a few other adjustments. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2672 - 14/06/2023 19:54:57 2486524 Link 0 |
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Durty Nelly's pub will be a great place to be, if Limerick and Clare contest all Ireland! Right on the border! Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 221 - 14/06/2023 20:03:42 2486527 Link 0 |
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Whatever about Clare being robbed last Sunday , the only time a robbery definitely took place at a Munster Final was in 1977 in Thurles between Cork and Clare. Cork won the game but armed robbers made off with the gate receipts! Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 221 - 14/06/2023 20:18:52 2486531 Link 2 |
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How long did he allow for the pitch invasion to get cleared? That was a total mess, and I think the referee panicked, stopped the game even though a free for Clare was imminent.That to me is the crux of the whole problem, and essentially blame falls on Limerick GAA and security at Gaelic Grounds.At the same venue in 2006 at an international rules game, several Aussies were shocked that spectators could come into field after the game. The GAA expects players to train like professionals, even though injuries decimate some teams,but the organization itself is as amateurish as it ever was."]I know for a fact that contracted security people - and i assume volunteer stewards - are told not to lay a finger on anyone in any circumstance at matches or concerts. So short of being able to raise electronic fences, there in no way to prevent a bunch of happy kids "invading" a pitch when they think the match is over, Nor ought there to be. It was a minor incident and hardly changed the outcome."]That is the crux an amateurish approach to a professional expectation by everyone. The amount of extra time is subjective and another load on the already over loaded ref. Use a time clock that is only running when the ball is in play. When the time is up the hooter goes and the game is over. An automated score recording. The ref waste more time writing scores and making the goalies go back again and start play because he is not ready. Of course you have the nonsense of it will take to long to play a game and not know when it may end. Or every club could not afford it. Our inter county competitions is elite sport and you cannot have the same facilities at lower levels. That is how it works in other sports. In Baseball now they have made changes and the games take a lot less time and are within 5 to 10 minutes predictable. Pitcher has time to make the throw. You can't keep stepping in and out of the box as it is now controlled and a few other adjustments."]The ref needs to know the score. they are the ultimate decider of the rules etc of the game Dont think you can just run clock when ball is in play. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3516 - 14/06/2023 20:22:54 2486532 Link 0 |
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Unfortunately I think that's the only way we are going to get it.
Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 240 - 14/06/2023 21:12:23 2486538 Link 1 |
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How long did he allow for the pitch invasion to get cleared? That was a total mess, and I think the referee panicked, stopped the game even though a free for Clare was imminent.That to me is the crux of the whole problem, and essentially blame falls on Limerick GAA and security at Gaelic Grounds.At the same venue in 2006 at an international rules game, several Aussies were shocked that spectators could come into field after the game. The GAA expects players to train like professionals, even though injuries decimate some teams,but the organization itself is as amateurish as it ever was."]I know for a fact that contracted security people - and i assume volunteer stewards - are told not to lay a finger on anyone in any circumstance at matches or concerts. So short of being able to raise electronic fences, there in no way to prevent a bunch of happy kids "invading" a pitch when they think the match is over, Nor ought there to be. It was a minor incident and hardly changed the outcome."]That is the crux an amateurish approach to a professional expectation by everyone. The amount of extra time is subjective and another load on the already over loaded ref. Use a time clock that is only running when the ball is in play. When the time is up the hooter goes and the game is over. An automated score recording. The ref waste more time writing scores and making the goalies go back again and start play because he is not ready. Of course you have the nonsense of it will take to long to play a game and not know when it may end. Or every club could not afford it. Our inter county competitions is elite sport and you cannot have the same facilities at lower levels. That is how it works in other sports. In Baseball now they have made changes and the games take a lot less time and are within 5 to 10 minutes predictable. Pitcher has time to make the throw. You can't keep stepping in and out of the box as it is now controlled and a few other adjustments."]Too much focus on this decision on the end. I watched it back last night and there were plenty of clear frees that Limerick should have got namely two very clear pushes on Tom Morrissey in the back in the first half and around the 66 min there was a free against Limerick for a jersey pull on Shane O'Donnell that never happened. The point being that the potential free at the end being missed wasn't the only contentious call. The cruel lesson it took Limerick a lifetime to learn is that you have to be good enough to deal with the decisions that go against you as they always do in every game, the challenge is being good enough to overcome them. Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 390 - 14/06/2023 21:14:47 2486540 Link 0 |
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Actually you could be on to something there
TomWex (Wexford) - Posts: 63 - 14/06/2023 22:46:42 2486547 Link 1 |
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How long did he allow for the pitch invasion to get cleared? That was a total mess, and I think the referee panicked, stopped the game even though a free for Clare was imminent.That to me is the crux of the whole problem, and essentially blame falls on Limerick GAA and security at Gaelic Grounds.At the same venue in 2006 at an international rules game, several Aussies were shocked that spectators could come into field after the game. The GAA expects players to train like professionals, even though injuries decimate some teams,but the organization itself is as amateurish as it ever was."]I'd say you're great craic at a party. Who gives a toss what the aussies think? Many of their own players behaved disgracefully throughout large parts of those international rules games back in the early to mid 2000s, more interested in assaulting their opponents than playing a game. Let the kids run onto the pitch ffs,, its a lovely part of our games. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1743 - 14/06/2023 23:25:40 2486548 Link 1 |
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How long did he allow for the pitch invasion to get cleared? That was a total mess, and I think the referee panicked, stopped the game even though a free for Clare was imminent.That to me is the crux of the whole problem, and essentially blame falls on Limerick GAA and security at Gaelic Grounds.At the same venue in 2006 at an international rules game, several Aussies were shocked that spectators could come into field after the game. The GAA expects players to train like professionals, even though injuries decimate some teams,but the organization itself is as amateurish as it ever was."]I know for a fact that contracted security people - and i assume volunteer stewards - are told not to lay a finger on anyone in any circumstance at matches or concerts. So short of being able to raise electronic fences, there in no way to prevent a bunch of happy kids "invading" a pitch when they think the match is over, Nor ought there to be. It was a minor incident and hardly changed the outcome."]That is the crux an amateurish approach to a professional expectation by everyone. The amount of extra time is subjective and another load on the already over loaded ref. Use a time clock that is only running when the ball is in play. When the time is up the hooter goes and the game is over. An automated score recording. The ref waste more time writing scores and making the goalies go back again and start play because he is not ready. Of course you have the nonsense of it will take to long to play a game and not know when it may end. Or every club could not afford it. Our inter county competitions is elite sport and you cannot have the same facilities at lower levels. That is how it works in other sports. In Baseball now they have made changes and the games take a lot less time and are within 5 to 10 minutes predictable. Pitcher has time to make the throw. You can't keep stepping in and out of the box as it is now controlled and a few other adjustments."]The ladies have it? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12139 - 15/06/2023 09:24:25 2486568 Link 0 |
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How long did he allow for the pitch invasion to get cleared? That was a total mess, and I think the referee panicked, stopped the game even though a free for Clare was imminent.That to me is the crux of the whole problem, and essentially blame falls on Limerick GAA and security at Gaelic Grounds.At the same venue in 2006 at an international rules game, several Aussies were shocked that spectators could come into field after the game. The GAA expects players to train like professionals, even though injuries decimate some teams,but the organization itself is as amateurish as it ever was."]Isn't that part of the charm of it though?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12139 - 15/06/2023 09:25:47 2486569 Link 0 |
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How long did he allow for the pitch invasion to get cleared? That was a total mess, and I think the referee panicked, stopped the game even though a free for Clare was imminent.That to me is the crux of the whole problem, and essentially blame falls on Limerick GAA and security at Gaelic Grounds.At the same venue in 2006 at an international rules game, several Aussies were shocked that spectators could come into field after the game. The GAA expects players to train like professionals, even though injuries decimate some teams,but the organization itself is as amateurish as it ever was."]I'd say you're great craic at a party. Who gives a toss what the aussies think? Many of their own players behaved disgracefully throughout large parts of those international rules games back in the early to mid 2000s, more interested in assaulting their opponents than playing a game. Let the kids run onto the pitch ffs,, its a lovely part of our games."]Yes indeed 9801. We can be very proud of the fact that the fans, at our games can mix together before, after and during games,without the slightest real trouble. I often see players, still in their playing gear, stay back for a considerable signing autographs for adoring young fans. Below in Cork last January, after a League game, a Cork Writer said he was amazed that more young Cork fans wanted Cian Lynch's autograph more that that of Cork players, which a lovely sporting idea. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4344 - 16/06/2023 14:27:40 2486915 Link 3 |
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I remember at 1984 all Ireland in Thurles, supporters ran onto field prematurely, and had to be cleared. Cork were so far ahead of Offaly in that game that it was irrelevant, just that Clare were only a point adrift in this game.The poor old Banner maybe should have played in Cork, giving Limerick home advantage was a daft idea. Spectators in Gaelic grounds are very close to pitch, and only for the foresight and benevolence of the venerable Tom Smith, this thread would never have seen the light of day! Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 221 - 16/06/2023 14:59:27 2486927 Link 0 |
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Well said TomWex. Technically every mondern tackle in hurling and football is probably a foul. Those advocating a VAR or TMO style replay to be brought in need to be very careful what they are wishing for. For example in rugby the TMO can go back a few plays. If this happens in hurling every score will be cancelled as a technical foul will most certainly be found. Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 16/06/2023 19:14:49 2486985 Link 1 |
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I didn't know they watched hurling in Cavan. I didn't watch the game. PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 226 - 16/06/2023 20:05:05 2486994 Link 0 |