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Replay The Munster Hurling Final

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Will ye stop humouring him!?"
Ah.. Not to be taken too seriously.
the sheer stupidity of his posts can be entertaining.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1067 - 12/06/2023 16:04:05    2485933

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Is it possible to get a persistent, serial poster of useless texts banned from this forum

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1679 - 12/06/2023 16:09:06    2485936

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Replying To eoinog:  "Is it possible to get a persistent, serial poster of useless texts banned from this forum"
Most texts are probably useless, and irrelevant. Anyway, the Munster final loss will be irrelevant if Clare win all Ireland. For what it's worth for remaining games, I pick Tipperary to beat Offaly, Galway and Limerick. Dublin to beat Carlow, Clare to beat Dublin and Kilkenny and then beat Tipperary in final !

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 218 - 12/06/2023 17:30:36    2485989

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Cavan should offer Kerry a replay for the 1947 football final.

It recently emerged that several of the Cavan points were kicked from the elevated part of the Polo Grounds where the pitchers mound was situated.

It is a travesty that this injustice to the Kingdom has persisted for over 75 years."
I think Kerry were robbed in that final in '47 though.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2761 - 12/06/2023 17:57:22    2486003

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I think Kerry were robbed in that final in '47 though."
It is. I was listening to two of the Kerry players interviewed about it - must have been on one of anniversaries - and they did mention it! Now, they were not complaining nor demanding a replat, but it being the baseball ground for the New York Giants, there was an elevation around the pitchers mound which apparently was used to some effect by the wily Cavan men,

Of course they were too honest and naive - being innocent Kerry lads - to do the same, Anyway a good story. The only thing that remains of the Polo Grounds is part of the terrace opposite the apartments that were built on the site, which has a plaque on it.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2598 - 12/06/2023 18:37:34    2486016

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here

It must go down as one of the most controverisal endings to a Hurling game in along time .
I say to Limerick Gaa be big enough and offer a replay to County Clare .
That is what Sport is all about,"
Right, a big yawn! swings and roundabouts and all that stuff.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4899 - 12/06/2023 20:32:46    2486051

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Replying To Viking66:  ": D. Closest thing to an emoji on this site!"
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WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 382 - 12/06/2023 20:39:47    2486054

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "It is. I was listening to two of the Kerry players interviewed about it - must have been on one of anniversaries - and they did mention it! Now, they were not complaining nor demanding a replat, but it being the baseball ground for the New York Giants, there was an elevation around the pitchers mound which apparently was used to some effect by the wily Cavan men,

Of course they were too honest and naive - being innocent Kerry lads - to do the same, Anyway a good story. The only thing that remains of the Polo Grounds is part of the terrace opposite the apartments that were built on the site, which has a plaque on it."
Barny Grant
Tomsmith here
Its odious that posters would question ( Ough that Killing Fields from Limerick is excused because he knows no better) the veracity of a senior Poster of the standing of Tomsmith.
Barney while i admire some of your posts please let a good friend read over them before you press the send button.
Back to the game on Sunday, Clare should have got afree in the closing seconds . What the Referee saw I dont know but his assessments / report should be made public.
If I was a clare man I would be demanding to see hi s report

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3863 - 12/06/2023 21:57:52    2486065

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Barny Grant
Tomsmith here
Its odious that posters would question ( Ough that Killing Fields from Limerick is excused because he knows no better) the veracity of a senior Poster of the standing of Tomsmith.
Barney while i admire some of your posts please let a good friend read over them before you press the send button.
Back to the game on Sunday, Clare should have got afree in the closing seconds . What the Referee saw I dont know but his assessments / report should be made public.
If I was a clare man I would be demanding to see hi s report"
I agree it looked like a free, but will we go and ba k and analyse his decisions over the whole 75?.... he should have blown from the puck out, time was up anyway, made a rod for his own back imo...

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 922 - 13/06/2023 11:57:29    2486142

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Barny Grant
Tomsmith here
Its odious that posters would question ( Ough that Killing Fields from Limerick is excused because he knows no better) the veracity of a senior Poster of the standing of Tomsmith.
Barney while i admire some of your posts please let a good friend read over them before you press the send button.
Back to the game on Sunday, Clare should have got afree in the closing seconds . What the Referee saw I dont know but his assessments / report should be made public.
If I was a clare man I would be demanding to see hi s report"
Yerra Tom Smith here Tom Smith there Tom Smith everywhere ......

KnockaineyAbú (Limerick) - Posts: 96 - 13/06/2023 17:59:33    2486298

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Replying To totalrecall:  "
Replying To tomsmith:  "Barny Grant
Tomsmith here
Its odious that posters would question ( Ough that Killing Fields from Limerick is excused because he knows no better) the veracity of a senior Poster of the standing of Tomsmith.
Barney while i admire some of your posts please let a good friend read over them before you press the send button.
Back to the game on Sunday, Clare should have got afree in the closing seconds . What the Referee saw I dont know but his assessments / report should be made public.
If I was a clare man I would be demanding to see hi s report"
I agree it looked like a free, but will we go and ba k and analyse his decisions over the whole 75?.... he should have blown from the puck out, time was up anyway, made a rod for his own back imo..."
How long did he allow for the pitch invasion to get cleared? That was a total mess, and I think the referee panicked, stopped the game even though a free for Clare was imminent.That to me is the crux of the whole problem, and essentially blame falls on Limerick GAA and security at Gaelic Grounds.At the same venue in 2006 at an international rules game, several Aussies were shocked that spectators could come into field after the game. The GAA expects players to train like professionals, even though injuries decimate some teams,but the organization itself is as amateurish as it ever was.

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 218 - 13/06/2023 22:25:07    2486333

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Too right Tom.

I want the 2013 All-Ireland quarter and semi finals replayed.
In the quarter, Henry Shefflin was very harshly sent off.
In the semi, Cork beat us after a very unfair sending off for Ryan O'Dwyer.
Kilkenny would have beaten Cork and we'd already beaten Kilkenny that year. So we would have played Clare in the final, and probably beaten them.

Both replayed as well as the final. Dalo in charge of Dublin, Davy back in charge of Clare 1 more time, JBM and Cody back in charge. Settle it fair and square............

:)

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1141 - 14/06/2023 11:26:15    2486394

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Too right Tom.

I want the 2013 All-Ireland quarter and semi finals replayed.
In the quarter, Henry Shefflin was very harshly sent off.
In the semi, Cork beat us after a very unfair sending off for Ryan O'Dwyer.
Kilkenny would have beaten Cork and we'd already beaten Kilkenny that year. So we would have played Clare in the final, and probably beaten them.

Both replayed as well as the final. Dalo in charge of Dublin, Davy back in charge of Clare 1 more time, JBM and Cody back in charge. Settle it fair and square............

:)"
Now that you mention it I'd like the 93 leinster final replayed. Dj took an awful lot of steps that day.

Also the 05 leinster final. Henry shefflin dived and got a free in when it should have gone the other way.

And finally, the Westmeath game from last year. The goal was a square ball so we won by 3 points. We beat Kilkenny the following week so should be awarded the Bob o Keeffe.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2720 - 14/06/2023 12:13:08    2486410

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Now that you mention it I'd like the 93 leinster final replayed. Dj took an awful lot of steps that day.

Also the 05 leinster final. Henry shefflin dived and got a free in when it should have gone the other way.

And finally, the Westmeath game from last year. The goal was a square ball so we won by 3 points. We beat Kilkenny the following week so should be awarded the Bob o Keeffe."
What's another replay amongst friends.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1141 - 14/06/2023 12:25:29    2486414

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Too right Tom.

I want the 2013 All-Ireland quarter and semi finals replayed.
In the quarter, Henry Shefflin was very harshly sent off.
In the semi, Cork beat us after a very unfair sending off for Ryan O'Dwyer.
Kilkenny would have beaten Cork and we'd already beaten Kilkenny that year. So we would have played Clare in the final, and probably beaten them.

Both replayed as well as the final. Dalo in charge of Dublin, Davy back in charge of Clare 1 more time, JBM and Cody back in charge. Settle it fair and square............

:)"
Come to think of it, did the referee in 2013 all Ireland allow play to continue until Clare equalized? Clare won the replay, but Cork were aggrieved as time was up! It's at referee's discretion I suppose!

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 218 - 14/06/2023 12:42:05    2486417

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Replying To WEX98:  "¯\_(ツ)_/¯"
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Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 255 - 14/06/2023 14:16:12    2486434

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "
Replying To totalrecall:  "[quote=tomsmith:  "Barny Grant
Tomsmith here
Its odious that posters would question ( Ough that Killing Fields from Limerick is excused because he knows no better) the veracity of a senior Poster of the standing of Tomsmith.
Barney while i admire some of your posts please let a good friend read over them before you press the send button.
Back to the game on Sunday, Clare should have got afree in the closing seconds . What the Referee saw I dont know but his assessments / report should be made public.
If I was a clare man I would be demanding to see hi s report"
I agree it looked like a free, but will we go and ba k and analyse his decisions over the whole 75?.... he should have blown from the puck out, time was up anyway, made a rod for his own back imo..."
How long did he allow for the pitch invasion to get cleared? That was a total mess, and I think the referee panicked, stopped the game even though a free for Clare was imminent.That to me is the crux of the whole problem, and essentially blame falls on Limerick GAA and security at Gaelic Grounds.At the same venue in 2006 at an international rules game, several Aussies were shocked that spectators could come into field after the game. The GAA expects players to train like professionals, even though injuries decimate some teams,but the organization itself is as amateurish as it ever was."]I know for a fact that contracted security people - and i assume volunteer stewards - are told not to lay a finger on anyone in any circumstance at matches or concerts.

So short of being able to raise electronic fences, there in no way to prevent a bunch of happy kids "invading" a pitch when they think the match is over, Nor ought there to be.

It was a minor incident and hardly changed the outcome.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2598 - 14/06/2023 16:50:30    2486479

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "Come to think of it, did the referee in 2013 all Ireland allow play to continue until Clare equalized? Clare won the replay, but Cork were aggrieved as time was up! It's at referee's discretion I suppose!"
Limerick want the 1944 Munster Final replayed as firstly Mick Mackey had a perfectly good goal disallowed with five minutes to go which would have put Limerick eight points up and in an unassailable position and secondly, when Christy Ring scored the winning goal a Cork player was in the square before the ball came in and actually tackled the Limerick goalie as he tried to stop the shot. 'WE WAS ROBBED IN '44 and Cork went to complete the Four in a row. How ironic, BUT OF COURSE PERFESTLY ALRIGHT, if we were to complete A Four in a row, after 'robbing' both Clare and Cork.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4344 - 14/06/2023 18:05:46    2486498

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "Most texts are probably useless, and irrelevant. Anyway, the Munster final loss will be irrelevant if Clare win all Ireland. For what it's worth for remaining games, I pick Tipperary to beat Offaly, Galway and Limerick. Dublin to beat Carlow, Clare to beat Dublin and Kilkenny and then beat Tipperary in final !"
You are a brave man considering Limerick have beaten Tipp in seven of their last eleven meetings and drew with them in their own backyard already this year, despite a number of players playing well below form on the day and who have showed quite an improvement since and the fact that they now have a month to prepare for the Semi Final and have an excellent recent Croke Park record. I think Tipperary might in fact have plenty to do to get over Galway.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4344 - 14/06/2023 18:17:23    2486500

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "
Replying To Ryanteam:  "[quote=totalrecall:  "[quote=tomsmith:  "Barny Grant
Tomsmith here
Its odious that posters would question ( Ough that Killing Fields from Limerick is excused because he knows no better) the veracity of a senior Poster of the standing of Tomsmith.
Barney while i admire some of your posts please let a good friend read over them before you press the send button.
Back to the game on Sunday, Clare should have got afree in the closing seconds . What the Referee saw I dont know but his assessments / report should be made public.
If I was a clare man I would be demanding to see hi s report"
I agree it looked like a free, but will we go and ba k and analyse his decisions over the whole 75?.... he should have blown from the puck out, time was up anyway, made a rod for his own back imo..."
How long did he allow for the pitch invasion to get cleared? That was a total mess, and I think the referee panicked, stopped the game even though a free for Clare was imminent.That to me is the crux of the whole problem, and essentially blame falls on Limerick GAA and security at Gaelic Grounds.At the same venue in 2006 at an international rules game, several Aussies were shocked that spectators could come into field after the game. The GAA expects players to train like professionals, even though injuries decimate some teams,but the organization itself is as amateurish as it ever was."]I know for a fact that contracted security people - and i assume volunteer stewards - are told not to lay a finger on anyone in any circumstance at matches or concerts.

So short of being able to raise electronic fences, there in no way to prevent a bunch of happy kids "invading" a pitch when they think the match is over, Nor ought there to be.

It was a minor incident and hardly changed the outcome."]That is the crux an amateurish approach to a professional expectation by everyone. The amount of extra time is subjective and another load on the already over loaded ref. Use a time clock that is only running when the ball is in play. When the time is up the hooter goes and the game is over. An automated score recording. The ref waste more time writing scores and making the goalies go back again and start play because he is not ready. Of course you have the nonsense of it will take to long to play a game and not know when it may end. Or every club could not afford it. Our inter county competitions is elite sport and you cannot have the same facilities at lower levels. That is how it works in other sports. In Baseball now they have made changes and the games take a lot less time and are within 5 to 10 minutes predictable. Pitcher has time to make the throw. You can't keep stepping in and out of the box as it is now controlled and a few other adjustments.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2672 - 14/06/2023 19:02:39    2486505

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