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Sunday Game 2022 Fixtures Announced

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So our new condensed 15 week season begins this weekend.

RTE have decided to show 75% hurling in the opening six weeks (2/5th of the season).

From this nearly every match bar Galway v Kilkenny is the Munster Hurling Championship.

What about Gaelic football fans?

All we get is Galway v Mayo and two Ulster matches before the provincial championships.

As usual no doubt too that the evening games will be mostly the afternoon games they've covered and squeezing in some action from around the grounds in a blitz style format.

This is very unsatisfactory and a shocking way to promote the game.

As a football fan I have very little interest in the small ball action so I guess like many, this year will go past in blur with very little action enjoyed before we get back to the club action.

GAA needs a radical rethink to the way the game is covered with the current system.

shaggykev (Donegal) - Posts: 206 - 13/04/2022 11:04:20    2410800

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Replying To shaggykev:  "So our new condensed 15 week season begins this weekend.

RTE have decided to show 75% hurling in the opening six weeks (2/5th of the season).

From this nearly every match bar Galway v Kilkenny is the Munster Hurling Championship.

What about Gaelic football fans?

All we get is Galway v Mayo and two Ulster matches before the provincial championships.

As usual no doubt too that the evening games will be mostly the afternoon games they've covered and squeezing in some action from around the grounds in a blitz style format.

This is very unsatisfactory and a shocking way to promote the game.

As a football fan I have very little interest in the small ball action so I guess like many, this year will go past in blur with very little action enjoyed before we get back to the club action.

GAA needs a radical rethink to the way the game is covered with the current system."
Is the Donegal/Armagh game not even going to be televised?

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 178 - 13/04/2022 12:27:30    2410826

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The Provincial Football Championship is a very poor product. I guess poor products are hard to sell..

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 13/04/2022 13:32:31    2410832

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Replying To shaggykev:  "So our new condensed 15 week season begins this weekend.

RTE have decided to show 75% hurling in the opening six weeks (2/5th of the season).

From this nearly every match bar Galway v Kilkenny is the Munster Hurling Championship.

What about Gaelic football fans?

All we get is Galway v Mayo and two Ulster matches before the provincial championships.

As usual no doubt too that the evening games will be mostly the afternoon games they've covered and squeezing in some action from around the grounds in a blitz style format.

This is very unsatisfactory and a shocking way to promote the game.

As a football fan I have very little interest in the small ball action so I guess like many, this year will go past in blur with very little action enjoyed before we get back to the club action.

GAA needs a radical rethink to the way the game is covered with the current system."
RTE does not have a monopoly on broadcasting GAA games.

Sky are showing:

USFC Fermanagh v Tyrone
USFC Monaghan v Down
LSFC Dublin v Offaly/Wexford
MSFC Cork v Kerry

GAAGO

USFC Fermanagh V Tyrone

As for the Leinster Hurling Championship, Sky is showing 4 games.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2482 - 13/04/2022 13:32:37    2410833

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75% Hurling seems to be a very lop sized coverage of our games.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11245 - 13/04/2022 13:49:03    2410836

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Id imagine and hope that BBC Sport NI will be showing more Ulster Championship games whilst RTE shows mostly the Munster Football.

On the Tailteann Cup coverage, after all the BIG promises to promote it to give players the same exposure as All Ireland and recognise players efforts, that only 3 games of it will be televised by Rte(semis and final), Sky not showing it at all.

Good to see what air time it gets on Sunday game Highlights show.

So if this is the approach at start it will only dwindle as time goes by, which is onimous as not much less than 3 can go, but sure as always the focus be on the big fish as always.


Fixtures mentions a possible pre lim round for Qualifiers and Tailteann Cup, so if Div 3 or 4 team reach provincial final(Tipp could do this in Munster), this will be be required, so guessing that means in opposite competition a team will receive a first round bye with 15/17 split?

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1099 - 13/04/2022 14:22:25    2410842

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I asked a question a few weeks back about coverage for my elderly parents..tg4 have nothing..RTÉ seem to have Sunday only..so we are left with sky covering Saturday games..they have Tyrone/ Fermanagh Saturday and Wexford/Dublin in hurling..be interesting to see what is shown on 24th,big hurling in munster with donegal/ Armagh and Mayo/Galway also on..there are a lot of big games which just havnt a hope of been shown..are matches on GAA go??

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2234 - 13/04/2022 14:34:49    2410843

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Replying To Ban:  "The Provincial Football Championship is a very poor product. I guess poor products are hard to sell.."
The Ulster Championship is hardly a poor product? In Munster, you have Kerry. In Leinster you have Dublin. In Connaught you have Mayo and Galway. And in Ulster, you have 5 teams that can win it. Armagh and Donegal being probably the biggest provincial game of the lot along with Mayo and Galway you would expect should be a must televised game.

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 178 - 13/04/2022 15:05:28    2410855

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "The Ulster Championship is hardly a poor product? In Munster, you have Kerry. In Leinster you have Dublin. In Connaught you have Mayo and Galway. And in Ulster, you have 5 teams that can win it. Armagh and Donegal being probably the biggest provincial game of the lot along with Mayo and Galway you would expect should be a must televised game."
Last 6 Connacht Titles - Ros, Galway and Mayo 2 each.
Neutrals will watch the SHC in large numbers esp Munster.
Only very interested people would watch a live football match any more.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1452 - 13/04/2022 15:48:18    2410862

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Division 1 of the league is extremely competitive and the winners of the All-Ireland usually come from this division. Yet we have what will be a very competitive clash between Donegal and Armagh not covered by RTE. This is so wrong. I think this first round clash will be the outstanding game of the opening rounds.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 13/04/2022 16:05:02    2410868

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "Is the Donegal/Armagh game not even going to be televised?"
Could be on sky or BBC or tg4?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12132 - 13/04/2022 16:57:55    2410875

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "The Ulster Championship is hardly a poor product? In Munster, you have Kerry. In Leinster you have Dublin. In Connaught you have Mayo and Galway. And in Ulster, you have 5 teams that can win it. Armagh and Donegal being probably the biggest provincial game of the lot along with Mayo and Galway you would expect should be a must televised game."
Bit unfair on Roscommon but a fair point otherwise.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12132 - 13/04/2022 16:59:57    2410876

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Replying To shaggykev:  "So our new condensed 15 week season begins this weekend.

RTE have decided to show 75% hurling in the opening six weeks (2/5th of the season).

From this nearly every match bar Galway v Kilkenny is the Munster Hurling Championship.

What about Gaelic football fans?

All we get is Galway v Mayo and two Ulster matches before the provincial championships.

As usual no doubt too that the evening games will be mostly the afternoon games they've covered and squeezing in some action from around the grounds in a blitz style format.

This is very unsatisfactory and a shocking way to promote the game.

As a football fan I have very little interest in the small ball action so I guess like many, this year will go past in blur with very little action enjoyed before we get back to the club action.

GAA needs a radical rethink to the way the game is covered with the current system."
over the season there are a lot more football games available to be shown compared to hurling. Once the hurling round robins are finished the hurling fixtures get scarce. There are plenty games available to watch in my opinion, after all we still need supporters to actually go to the games and create an atmosphere.

Clubgaa (Limerick) - Posts: 879 - 13/04/2022 18:22:45    2410887

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I must be in a minority…I prefer watching football over hurling.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11245 - 13/04/2022 18:46:21    2410892

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Rte are showing 18 football championship games and 17 hurling championship games. As always (and rightly so) the schedule is top heavy with hurling in the early part of the championship and top heavy with football in the later part. And football is not being neglected in the early part as many of the Ulster championship games will be covered by BBC Ulster. RTE have got to do a balancing act between coverage of hurling and football and imo they've got the balance right

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1907 - 13/04/2022 20:05:50    2410903

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "The Ulster Championship is hardly a poor product? In Munster, you have Kerry. In Leinster you have Dublin. In Connaught you have Mayo and Galway. And in Ulster, you have 5 teams that can win it. Armagh and Donegal being probably the biggest provincial game of the lot along with Mayo and Galway you would expect should be a must televised game."
I'd say 50% of the posts on this forum over the last 5 years are ones giving out about the public batterings that take place during the provincial championship.
I agree with you in that its not all bad, but the viewing figures must be poor in order for RTE to sway away from it. Advertisement is a big part of their revenue stream and they will show what people are more likely to watch in order to attract adds.

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 14/04/2022 08:08:16    2410917

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I must be in a minority…I prefer watching football over hurling."
I'm the same. Hurling is amazing don't get me wrong, but it means nothing to me coming from a football county as I'm sure football would mean very little to those in hurling strongholds.

It actually is hard to blame rte in this regard, and I would usually be the first to do so. The football product is not good in the initial stages, apart from the Ulster championship perhaps and sporadic games in the other provinces. There was a chance to meaningfully change this at congress and it was shot down.

On the other hand I watched live streams of the u20 connacht football last night from tg4, it was actually decent coverage for a one camera operation and blissfully no pundits, it was great!

Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 14/04/2022 09:45:50    2410928

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Rte are showing 18 football championship games and 17 hurling championship games. As always (and rightly so) the schedule is top heavy with hurling in the early part of the championship and top heavy with football in the later part. And football is not being neglected in the early part as many of the Ulster championship games will be covered by BBC Ulster. RTE have got to do a balancing act between coverage of hurling and football and imo they've got the balance right"
Was going to point this out myself. With 18 football and 17 hurling games to be shown overall, that means that if there's an imbalance in favour of hurling in the early stages, there must be a corresponding imbalance in favour of football later on.

As regards a point from another poster about the Tailteann Cup "only" having the semi-finals and final shown live - strikes me that's roughly the same or even better than any of the provincial championships?

And in fairness, the first round of the Tailteann Cup is to be played over the same weekend as the four provincial football finals. Assuming there has to be some limit to what can be shown live, it'd be hard to argue that Tailteann Cup first round should take precedence over any of those.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2258 - 14/04/2022 14:33:10    2410996

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I must be in a minority…I prefer watching football over hurling."
I'm in the same boat as you. And I dont believe its as much a minority as you think. Both codes have their own strong points and weak points . Both codes have good and bad games.
Its hard to be too dogmatic about it and its difficult to be objective, but to put some numbers on it, in 2019 ( last year not impacted by Covid) , total championship attendances in Hurling was about 680K , football about 900K. I know this is not an apples versus apples comparison and that the football numbers were swelled by an AI final replay. Because of this and other factors that swell the football numbers in comparison to hurling , I am not suggesting that these figures imply that more people prefer watching football to hurling , but the figures do strongly suggest ,at the very least, that football is comparable to hurling in terms of people's desire to watch it.
The bottom line is that these are personal preferences , mine is football, but many others prefer hurling , and more importantly most GAA supporters enjoy both.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 843 - 14/04/2022 15:28:35    2411015

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Replying To Ban:  "I'd say 50% of the posts on this forum over the last 5 years are ones giving out about the public batterings that take place during the provincial championship.
I agree with you in that its not all bad, but the viewing figures must be poor in order for RTE to sway away from it. Advertisement is a big part of their revenue stream and they will show what people are more likely to watch in order to attract adds."
The worst part of RTÉ Gaa coverage used to be Kerry mauling Waterford or Clare in the first round of the championship.

It would be competitive for 10 minutes.

I prefer the hurling as it's more competitive.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 14/04/2022 15:39:28    2411019

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