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Replying To sam09:  "Yes I could...the same way as I could get the normal flu and pass it to an elderly relative as well.
It still doesn't warrant this mass apocalyptic behaviour from everyone. Cueing outside shops before opening so they can run in to get a six months supply of bog roll! Jesus wept!"
You really haven't a clue have you?

In Italy they are so overwhelmed that in certain hospitals they've stopped treating people over 40 and just left them on oxygen masks to die. Maybe read a few Italian newspapers and see what's happening (google translate will help you).


Your ignorance reflects the unfortunate ignorance of your government it seems.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 692 - 13/03/2020 20:19:00    2273743

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Stay safe everyone and most importantly be mindful of your behaviour around those most vulnerable to the virus, however long it takes to get us out of it so be it, #inittogether

wexico15 (Wexford) - Posts: 2056 - 13/03/2020 20:21:02    2273745

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Replying To sam09:  "I've never seen an over reaction like this one before. It's a bad strain of the flu lads.
There's more people dying each day from the actual flu than from Coronavirus.
Yesterday in China (the country where its most prominent) there were only 8 confirmed new cases of the virus. 8! This is in a county of 1.4 billion people!!
The media have everyone living in fear but the reality is you have more chance of winning the lottery than you do from dying of Coronavirus. The media are a disgrace.
Out of all the people who have caught the virus worldwide less than 4% died. And most of those who did had underlying health problems or were very elderly. I'm not making light of their deaths but there is very little chance of you dying from this.
Media just pumping fear into everyone as per usual!"
You have to be careful of the information and how you read it. There may be more people die from the flu but the virus is 7 times more infectious that the flu. There is period in all these virus were they plato and the graph humps up. If this is not flattened out then there is a much bigger risk of escalation in infections. Thus the panic and getting smug about the risk today may be a mistake. No medical expert but this is the message from the top medical people and scientist. These are the people to listen to not the politician's like Trump talking through his rear end.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 774 - 13/03/2020 20:22:11    2273746

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Stay safe everyone but more importantly be sensible.

I'm in healthcare and been involved in the implementing of the protocols and managing risk in this locally where i work and am face to face with patients and those close to them all day every day clinically, healthcare is remaining calm, committed, collected and responding instead of reacting at the front line. Panic helps no one.

The reaction of the general public has been alarming, either people not caring and not taking personal precautions seriously or else people just reacting and panicking. What happened yesterday, was the most insane thing i think i have ever seen in Ireland, the government announce restrictions on indoor gatherings and what happens, 1000's of people cram themselves into supermarkets, mauling food and cram themselves into ques for a few hours, then go home to their families. Madness and very irresponsible.

Take the advised personal precautions, simple things make a world of difference, but more importantly use common sense as well."
You are in healthcare??!!! Given how much time you seem to spend on here morning, noon and night I think we might now know why the HSE is in the state it is :D

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 5471 - 13/03/2020 20:24:33    2273748

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Replying To sam09:  "I've never seen an over reaction like this one before. It's a bad strain of the flu lads.
There's more people dying each day from the actual flu than from Coronavirus.
Yesterday in China (the country where its most prominent) there were only 8 confirmed new cases of the virus. 8! This is in a county of 1.4 billion people!!
The media have everyone living in fear but the reality is you have more chance of winning the lottery than you do from dying of Coronavirus. The media are a disgrace.
Out of all the people who have caught the virus worldwide less than 4% died. And most of those who did had underlying health problems or were very elderly. I'm not making light of their deaths but there is very little chance of you dying from this.
Media just pumping fear into everyone as per usual!"
Its been in China sense xmas and they got it under control implementing strict measures, yes most of us recover from the virus but we could be the cause of someone in a vulnerable situation getting it

wexico15 (Wexford) - Posts: 2056 - 13/03/2020 20:32:02    2273749

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Replying To lionofludesch:  "When you say UK, I'm thinking that here is one time when a line down the Irish Sea might be absolutely appropriate."
Too late. There are around 10,000 Irish punters returning from Cheltenham as I write.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 886 - 13/03/2020 20:59:12    2273752

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Replying To TheHermit:  "You are in healthcare??!!! Given how much time you seem to spend on here morning, noon and night I think we might now know why the HSE is in the state it is :D"
Haaahhaaa nice one man

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 680 - 13/03/2020 21:05:35    2273754

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "No they are not, People with opinions like you on the seriousness of this virus are a disgrace."
Totally agree. The effects for the vast majority is just like a normal flu - but that's not the point of the measures. This allows the health service to slow down the cases and allow them to care for people that would needlessly die otherwise.

Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 95 - 13/03/2020 21:51:40    2273755

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Replying To TheHermit:  "You are in healthcare??!!! Given how much time you seem to spend on here morning, noon and night I think we might now know why the HSE is in the state it is :D"
Please stop this kind of nonsense.

Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 95 - 13/03/2020 21:53:02    2273756

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Replying To Crinigan:  "You really haven't a clue have you?

In Italy they are so overwhelmed that in certain hospitals they've stopped treating people over 40 and just left them on oxygen masks to die. Maybe read a few Italian newspapers and see what's happening (google translate will help you).


Your ignorance reflects the unfortunate ignorance of your government it seems."
Your correct a Crinigan.

The virus is a threat to life but so are limited resources this is the problem with the virus. The numbers escalate to the point that not everyone can be treated if critical with virus. The nature of the the virus is its exponential growth, If the numbers escalate and grow to the point that not everyone can be treated then not everyone can be offered the opportunity to be cured. That's the worry we don't have an infinite number of ICU beds, when this virus hits mitigation a decision needs to be made on who gets treatment in ICU, at that stage it's not about who will recover, it's about who will be given priority to be treated.

Our commuinty transmission is still relatively low, this is the main threat.

By far the best way of managing the virus at this stage is identifying contacts of an effected person, isolating and testing these, they then become local cases, healthcare workers infected by their work are considered local to - there is an explainable source to their infection.

Even though our community transmission is low, its worrisome because if one person has it and a source is unidentified, then there is someone unidentified going around spreading it, infecting others, unknown to anyone maybe even themselves. This is the risk of the "exponential growth", for example Denmark had 40 cases during the week that grew to 500 in 24 hours imagine the impact of that massive, speedy growth on finite health resources and professionals. We had 40 odd cases Weds and 70 odd yesterday and 90, over a 50% jump in 48 hours and on it goes and expands, every new case in another risk due the principal of exponential growth. That's the risk the bigger it gets the harder it is to control and landslides from there and impacts services.

I didn't think we would move to the delay phase until 100 cases, so yesterday was positive, hopefully it's successful but I see measures escalating in the day's ahead now we have broke the seal. We are in the delay stage, the purpose is to give health services a chance before we hit the mitigation phase, this isn't going away or ending soon.

Mad thing is the Goverment call for self distancing and what do people do - thousands head for the super market to stockpile. Insane.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 3317 - 13/03/2020 21:57:34    2273757

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Replying To sam09:  "Yes I could...the same way as I could get the normal flu and pass it to an elderly relative as well.
It still doesn't warrant this mass apocalyptic behaviour from everyone. Cueing outside shops before opening so they can run in to get a six months supply of bog roll! Jesus wept!"
You have heard of the flu vaccine i assume?

achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 429 - 13/03/2020 22:12:56    2273759

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Replying To sam09:  "Italys population has one of the highest average age in the world. The average age of the people who have died from the virus in Italy is 81 and to quote the Italian national health institute "many of the deceased had preexisting health conditions".
Again, I'm not making light of their deaths however these facts are rarely reported by the media and as a result there is a huge panic being stirred up across the country"
Hope nothing happens your family.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 487 - 13/03/2020 22:19:57    2273761

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Stay safe is always a good sentiment. Stay sensible is what I would advise, if you don't need to go out and meet someone then don't do it. Stay at home, surf the net, eat bread, drink water. If every one of us restricts our contact with others then we reduce the risk of transferring this virus on to to someone down the line who may not be able to fight it. We can all survive for the next 8 weeks without too much contact with the outside world. It still hasn't peaked, but in 3 months time it will have passed. We just need to keep ourselves to ourselves until then. I've seen some very creative ideas about how we can all help small businesses survive this temporary blip. Buy vouchers now for goods or services that can be redeemed in the future. Whether we like it or not, there are a lot of enterprises going to run out of cash and go bust. Small businesses who depend on footfall are going to be the worst affected.

I've decided to allocate 1K for future goods/services that I will pay for now but consume later to try and help local businesses. Can I ask others to try and do the same. The loss of jobs in the SME sector because of this is going to be catastrophic. An awful lot of Restos, pubs, churchs (oops) are going to go out of business unless we help them with some creative gestures like this.

Hoofhearted (Australia) - Posts: 33 - 14/03/2020 03:21:01    2273770

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I turned on the late late show for a few minutes last night just to see if they were keeping the 1to 2 meter rule and no there was a full audience side by side singing away with some young lad on stage.

Shouldn't our national broadcaster be leading by example.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 10744 - 14/03/2020 10:04:22    2273778

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Replying To sam09:  "I've never seen an over reaction like this one before. It's a bad strain of the flu lads.
There's more people dying each day from the actual flu than from Coronavirus.
Yesterday in China (the country where its most prominent) there were only 8 confirmed new cases of the virus. 8! This is in a county of 1.4 billion people!!
The media have everyone living in fear but the reality is you have more chance of winning the lottery than you do from dying of Coronavirus. The media are a disgrace.
Out of all the people who have caught the virus worldwide less than 4% died. And most of those who did had underlying health problems or were very elderly. I'm not making light of their deaths but there is very little chance of you dying from this.
Media just pumping fear into everyone as per usual!"
Thank you.

Gowran_Yank (Kilkenny) - Posts: 96 - 14/03/2020 10:09:03    2273779

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Ok talking to a politician friend of mine, there is absolutely no need for the panic buying, last year the gov put in a plan for a no deal brexit , basically doubled in some cases tripled the supply chain in the event of a crash out, there is warehouses all over the country stocked with dry goods, and toiletries (yes even loo roll) . Freezer Containers full of frozen goods and meets etc, we have enough supply that if we didn't get one shipment into country for next six months we wouldn't run short. People need to not believe what is been written or said on the likes of fb WhatsApp or Twitter. For god sake people stop the bloody panic buying. So much for a new tolerant country my ass, everyone for themselves mentality is absolutely disgraceful.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16512 - 14/03/2020 10:12:57    2273781

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Replying To The_Fonz:  "250 dead in Italy in a day and you say no need for panic??"
Are you saying panic is a good answer? Panic is what I fear most from this. I trust the elderly in my family to use common sense & will help them in any way possible but I am blown away by the media & the public's reaction. Panic never helped anything.
I do hope for the best for all of you and your families whether we completely agree or not.

Gowran_Yank (Kilkenny) - Posts: 96 - 14/03/2020 10:23:02    2273782

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "I turned on the late late show for a few minutes last night just to see if they were keeping the 1to 2 meter rule and no there was a full audience side by side singing away with some young lad on stage.

Shouldn't our national broadcaster be leading by example."
It wasnt a full audience. Was there not pre recorded or old clips used which would have had audiences.
They started the show with a doc and few other medical professionals who talked through correct procedures to deal with covid19

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 746 - 14/03/2020 11:31:58    2273785

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Ok talking to a politician friend of mine, there is absolutely no need for the panic buying, last year the gov put in a plan for a no deal brexit , basically doubled in some cases tripled the supply chain in the event of a crash out, there is warehouses all over the country stocked with dry goods, and toiletries (yes even loo roll) . Freezer Containers full of frozen goods and meets etc, we have enough supply that if we didn't get one shipment into country for next six months we wouldn't run short. People need to not believe what is been written or said on the likes of fb WhatsApp or Twitter. For god sake people stop the bloody panic buying. So much for a new tolerant country my ass, everyone for themselves mentality is absolutely disgraceful."
I'd say a lot of us heard the same thing from a politician.
Heather Humphreys stated that categorically in a broadcasted press conference :-/

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 757 - 14/03/2020 12:54:44    2273794

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The panic buying is crazy, selfish and smacks of as long as I have what I need to hell with everyone else. Panic about the virus itself ? May be somewhat but better than denial. If you use posters on here as barometer for the serious of the situation the majority are trying to playing it down. Comparing you chance of getting it with winning the lottery is a stupid comparison based on zero science. Not winning the lottery doesn't change anyone's life but for someone getting the virus it may get them a head stone. A virus control doctor said that those who are in denial about the virus are a worry because of they possible ignoring protective care. It would not surprise me if they are also the people running with the food off the shelves.
This virus is serious, not a hoax or not a conspiracy. Good health to all.
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Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 774 - 14/03/2020 13:05:54    2273795

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