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Came on to praise the Cork county board for putting together a nice commemorative match program for the game a nice 1 to have for the collection. Now after reading the down through the comments, I knew people would disagree with the jersey that is fair enough yer entitled to have an opinion, I don't agree with ye that's life but I want to remind ye the GAA is very much entwined with the struggle for Irish freedom and it should be celebrated and commemorated not forgotten about. Now I do take serious issue with 2 things which I read 1 where a poster made reference to the disturbing murder of Jerry McCabe to that of the Kilmichael ambush and another made a reference if a jersey was made to promote white supremacy there would be up-roar, lads that is complete and utter exaggerated and disgusting horse** and has no place on a discussion forum about a County commemorating historical events and people on a jersey for a game. DUALSUPPORT (Limerick)** - Posts: 1038 - 24/02/2020 12:21:47 2269675 Link
Cant get over some of the comments on this forum. Congratulations to Cork on their commemoration efforts yesterday and the way the went about their business. It was a simple commemoration of historical events that played out 100 years ago. There was nothing sectarian about the day, no reference to civil war or to recent struggles in the North. I sincerely hope the Limerick follow suit next year and commemorate Mayors Clancy & O'Callaghan who were murdered in front of their families in 1921. They deserve to be remembered for giving the ultimate sacrifce, its not a way to provoke anti British feeling or to stir up ill will, merely remembering what happened and how it shaped who we are as a nation today. McFan88 (Limerick) - Posts: 447 - 24/02/2020 14:01:27 2269736 Link
What risk some commemorative jersey of the near future finds offence amongst a member or members of the playing panel? Does he or she do a James McClean and refuse to wear it? How about we just stick to sport. Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1060 - 24/02/2020 15:11:26 2269770 Link
Replying To Miami305: "ill will towards the irish in england? I think you are talking out of your hole. Again. As with the 4th July rubbish. Just because a bar does a drinks promo doesnt mean a country is celebrating it. I've never seen it celebrated in all my years here. You'll find with brexit the only ill will is between the remainers and leavers." I live in London so don't tell me the things I have heard and been told to my face are rubbish. Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 24/02/2020 17:16:42 2269817 Link
Replying To Miami305: "ill will towards the irish in england? I think you are talking out of your hole. Again. As with the 4th July rubbish. Just because a bar does a drinks promo doesnt mean a country is celebrating it. I've never seen it celebrated in all my years here. You'll find with brexit the only ill will is between the remainers and leavers." Also I didn't say the country celebrated it I said there are events on in the country relating to it I never tried to claim it was any sort of national holiday. I did also say that most ignore it or are oblivious to it. And only I'll will between remainders and leavers my ** reports of rascist abuse towards foreigners is significantly up since brexit Breezy (Limerick)** - Posts: 1236 - 24/02/2020 17:38:29 2269821 Link
Replying To TheImmortal: "An horrific idea. I know with the success of Sinn Fein in the recent election, the country seems to be in the throes of a misty-eyed nostalgia for "the troubles", but I think commemorating the Provisional IRA on county jerseys would be a retrograde move." Curious to know your stance on the Cork Jersey commemorating two Cork men who died for Irish independence?? What is the difference between them irish martyrs and the men and women of the provisional ira who died fighting for Irish independence?? Cu_culainn (Armagh) - Posts: 5 - 24/02/2020 17:38:49 2269822 Link
Replying To Cu_culainn: "Curious to know your stance on the Cork Jersey commemorating two Cork men who died for Irish independence?? What is the difference between them irish martyrs and the men and women of the provisional ira who died fighting for Irish independence??" To the best of my knowledge, those two Corkmen didn't plant any bombs on school buses or on English High Streets with families out shopping, how's that difference for starters? TheImmortal (USA) - Posts: 24 - 24/02/2020 18:50:08 2269836 Link
Replying To TheImmortal: "To the best of my knowledge, those two Corkmen didn't plant any bombs on school buses or on English High Streets with families out shopping, how's that difference for starters?" You may be correct but many atrocities in the civil war were no better although not carried out on English streets (but on Irish ones). Some guys like to forget about the past and sometimes that is not a bad thing. All out big parties were formed from war/killings. I do not, and haver never condoned the taking of life for whatever reason, but the 'kettle calling the pot black' makes little sense. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 25/02/2020 10:54:44 2269998 Link
Replying To TheImmortal: "To the best of my knowledge, those two Corkmen didn't plant any bombs on school buses or on English High Streets with families out shopping, how's that difference for starters?" You probably never heard that in 1867 the Fenians bombed Clerkenwell prison in London, killing several people in a jail break that went wrong. This is just the start of many bombings in england carried out by republicans (before the 'Provisional' IRA ever existed). The english of course carried out many many bombings, shootings, burnings and murders in Ireland (and worldwide), the Irish people just didn't get up out of bed 1 morning and decide to attack england. Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 25/02/2020 11:32:24 2270021 Link
Replying To Breezy: "I live in London so don't tell me the things I have heard and been told to my face are rubbish." Quote me then on some of this ill will you have received. Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 25/02/2020 11:35:02 2270023 Link
The only time I didn't mind looking at a Cork jersey was when Ashling Thompson was wearing it. Now how about we put all the guns and bombs away & play nice Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1060 - 25/02/2020 12:14:17 2270036 Link
Replying To Maroonatic: "The only time I didn't mind looking at a Cork jersey was when Ashling Thompson was wearing it. Now how about we put all the guns and bombs away & play nice" brilliant lol Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 25/02/2020 12:35:33 2270042 Link
There's plenty of o neills jerseys commemorating the hunger strikes and the rising already. They are all lovely in my opinion. thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 25/02/2020 19:51:31 2270167 Link
Replying To thegadfly: "There's plenty of o neills jerseys commemorating the hunger strikes and the rising already. They are all lovely in my opinion." Yes, but no county jerseys commemorate the hunger strikers, though, nor should they. TheImmortal (USA) - Posts: 24 - 25/02/2020 23:57:37 2270222 Link
Hard facts are we should never have agreed to spilt our island, we should have all remained part of the United Kingdom or been part of an united Ireland. Why Should the People of Galway or Meath be part of Ireland as opposed to the people of Armagh or Tyrone. If many of us lived in the 6 counties we'd have a very different view of the world to living 2-300 miles from our nearest British army barracks. hurler32 (Limerick) - Posts: 867 - 26/02/2020 08:38:42 2270239 Link
Replying To TheImmortal: "To the best of my knowledge, those two Corkmen didn't plant any bombs on school buses or on English High Streets with families out shopping, how's that difference for starters?" Too many people on this island there is no difference between those who died in the 1920s and the 1980s. If its okay for Cork to remember republican figures from the 20s then it should be perfectly fine for any other county to remember their own Republican past whoever it may be. No doubt there would be absolute bedlam if Derry decided to remember Kevin lynch or Armagh Ray mccreesh for example. Personally I don't think they should of done it as it could potentially open up a can of worms with other counties deciding to follow suit which will just cause more issues as it can't be OK for one county and not another. I'm not stupid enough to say that the GAA was not a political organisation in the past but it has grown and changed and if it is to continue to grow and become ever more inclusive these things have to stop. Cu_culainn (Armagh) - Posts: 5 - 26/02/2020 11:15:35 2270268 Link
Replying To hurler32: "Hard facts are we should never have agreed to spilt our island, we should have all remained part of the United Kingdom or been part of an united Ireland. Why Should the People of Galway or Meath be part of Ireland as opposed to the people of Armagh or Tyrone. If many of us lived in the 6 counties we'd have a very different view of the world to living 2-300 miles from our nearest British army barracks." I'd agree with partition being bad and either we all stayed in the UK or all left. It could have avoided the troubles. I dont know what the issue is living beside an army Barracks weather its Irish or British. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 26/02/2020 11:28:31 2270277 Link
Replying To hurler32: "Hard facts are we should never have agreed to spilt our island, we should have all remained part of the United Kingdom or been part of an united Ireland. Why Should the People of Galway or Meath be part of Ireland as opposed to the people of Armagh or Tyrone. If many of us lived in the 6 counties we'd have a very different view of the world to living 2-300 miles from our nearest British army barracks." We were simply screwed by the Brits, with 4.5 million people having to leave the island from 1850 to 1913. WE are well rid of them. Like NI and Scotland we would now be out of the EU against our will and would be sneered at as 'remoaners', if we complained. Slan Abaile. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4331 - 26/02/2020 22:02:06 2270397 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "We were simply screwed by the Brits, with 4.5 million people having to leave the island from 1850 to 1913. WE are well rid of them. Like NI and Scotland we would now be out of the EU against our will and would be sneered at as 'remoaners', if we complained. Slan Abaile." Ireland under the British Empire was a giant agricultural sweat shop designed to pump food and profit out of the country for the benefit of English lords. A fact that historical revisionists seem to gloss over Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 27/02/2020 11:54:44 2270469 Link
Replying To hurler32: "Hard facts are we should never have agreed to spilt our island, we should have all remained part of the United Kingdom or been part of an united Ireland. Why Should the People of Galway or Meath be part of Ireland as opposed to the people of Armagh or Tyrone. If many of us lived in the 6 counties we'd have a very different view of the world to living 2-300 miles from our nearest British army barracks." What's this "we" nonsense ? You weren't there at the time . Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 27/02/2020 13:50:59 2270488 Link