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Tractors on the way to blockade Australia as we speak. ;) TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 10/12/2019 12:51:06 2254084 Link 0 |
Loosing youth to large urban centers and shores abroad is a much bigger issue to rural counties than the AFL. That said from our point of view Mattie Ruane would be a huge loss to Mayo football if he heads down under.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11237 - 10/12/2019 12:53:54 2254085 Link 6 |
Massive loss for Mayo if it happens, he come along when the midfield really could do with being fortified, loss to the game in general a player i really like watching play and put his hand up as a marquee midfielder last year. I was surprised to see him at the combine as hes turning 23.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 10/12/2019 13:18:38 2254090 Link 2 |
If it does affect Dublin what do the GAA do then? Kidnap lads who try to get on the planes? Economic sanctions against Australia? Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 10/12/2019 13:24:37 2254093 Link 2 |
Combines, surely.
lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 475 - 10/12/2019 13:57:10 2254100 Link 1 |
Yew tree could you imagine if ye kept on to Pearce Hanley ? He could have been the couple of percent ye needed to get over the line in one of yer finals v dublin, The same with us and Mark O'Connor this year. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 10/12/2019 14:28:28 2254106 Link 4 |
We have 2 at the moment Mark O'Connor and Stefan Okunbar, but now it looks like Uosis is going also Colm Moriarty and David Clifford's cousin Paul O'Shea who was also a Kerry minor captain of 1 of our 5 in a row winning teams. That's probably going to be 5 blue chip players gone out of a team of 15, we can't withstand those kind of losses and hope to topple ye on yer home patch. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 10/12/2019 14:38:09 2254111 Link 3 |
So 2 players out of over a 100 or so players so far? Even if it ends up being 5, that's still probably less that 5% of the players produced by those minor teams. You'll lose more to the night life of Cork and Limerick when they're at college being honest. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 10/12/2019 15:22:08 2254114 Link 9 |
Not of those caliber.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 10/12/2019 16:25:07 2254134 Link 3 |
Still haven't given a single suggestion about how to stop it happening Kingdomboy.
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 10/12/2019 16:33:18 2254140 Link 2 |
Looking at it in pure numbers is understating the impact at senior level. The Aussies are only interested in the very elite players. I'll put it like this to you. Michael Murphy had opportunities to go play in the AFL but he turned them down. If he had gone do you think Donegal would have won that all Ireland in 2012? I very much doubt it. That's the kind of impact losing these blue chip players can have. Looking at it through the prism of my own team Mark was the best underage midfielder I have ever seen, he was absolutely dominant at every level he played and given how his career is evolving down under I don't think it is a stretch to suggest he'd be a top midfielder had he stayed at home, the kind of player Kerry need to push them over the top. Others counties have lost very promising players as well obviously. I don't for a second blame the lads, they were presented with an excellent opportunity and they took it and good luck to them. But to say it doesn't matter because there are 99 other players to pick from is a bit disingenuous when they just don't have the same level of ability. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 10/12/2019 17:18:40 2254151 Link 9 |
Don't start Kingdomboy...we have enough of "what's if's to last a lifetime over the past few years. Makes me sick even thinking about it. Rebuild job on now.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11237 - 10/12/2019 17:38:38 2254155 Link 5 |
If you've dominated at underage for the past number of years as Kerry have there's obviously some very capable players available and if two lads go for a trial it's unlikely to spell disaster. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 10/12/2019 18:18:44 2254163 Link 3 |
That's it exactly Gerry, if we had lost Darragh O'Sé Seamus Moynihan Declan O'Sullivan I doubt we'd have had the success we did from 97 - 09 Dublin have 10 times our playing population so they could lose 5 players and still win allirelands . KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 10/12/2019 19:00:22 2254170 Link 3 |
That's a fair point. Oisín Mullin was the standout player on our U20 team this year and he's still underage in 2020. If we're going to replace the likes of Boyle and Higgins in the next year or 2 it's guys like Mullin that are needed. It would be a hammer blow if he leaves.
MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 10/12/2019 19:01:42 2254171 Link 4 |
Sorry yew, but you get what I'm saying.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 10/12/2019 19:04:00 2254173 Link 2 |
Breezy if I knew that then Mark the shark O'Connor would be at home in Dingle and we'd probably have won a couple of county championship by now and Dublin would have been lucky to win a 3 in a row.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 10/12/2019 19:11:29 2254177 Link 2 |
But Murphy didn't go. I think that's a pertinent point. Most lads won't go. Like I said earlier in the thread, firstly the player has to be the right type of player, secondly he has to be good enough to adapt to a new game and thirdly he has to actually want to go. Add on to that they he actually has to make it when he gets there, the sizeable amount just come away home again. It's a mountain out of molehill imo. In comparison to much more difficult challengea facing clubs. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 10/12/2019 19:58:39 2254185 Link 8 |
Have dublin got the kind of players that the Aussies are after Mes? McCarthy mccaffery o'callaghan Fenton mannion how did these guys escape their clutches , how did yer county board fend off the men from Oz ? KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 10/12/2019 20:45:35 2254195 Link 2 |
You are looking at it from purely a numbers point of view and that is fair enough. Yes it will only be a handful that will go each year, and yes they are looking for a particular type of player, elite athletes with strong ball winning ability etc (coincidentally the type of player that thrives in modern football). I would argue that the guys that are going like Nash, McKenna and O'Connor would have had a very good chance to be stars of the game, the future Cavanaghs and O'Se's if you like. If you think losing that kind of talent from the game is not an issue then that is your right. The point I was trying to make about Murphy is that just one player of that caliber can make an enormous difference to a team and be the difference between success and failure. To be honest I doubt there is anything that can be done in any case and it's a great opportunity for these lads. @Dubh_Linn I'd agree Kerry are in a much better position than most to absorb the loss of players. I'm not trying to make it about Kerry, it's something that is impacting everyone GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 10/12/2019 21:40:45 2254209 Link 6 |