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Might as well start a thread on this.
Some brilliant hurling by unreal athletes all year, serious passion and skill on show once again that gave us all fantastic enjoyment for the year. Probably not as good a championship as 2018 but only marginal in saying that.
my All star team would be :
1. Eoin Murphy
2. Seán Finn
3. Liam Ryan
4. Ronan Maher
5. Brendan Maher
6. Pádraig Walsh
7. Pádraic Maher
8. Noel McGrath
9. Diarmuid O'Keefe
10. Lee Chin
11. Tj Reid
12. John McGrath
13. Pat Horgan
14. Seamie Callanan
15. Adrian Mullen
Player of the year - Seamie Callanan, 8 goals in 8 games is unbelievable, Dan Shanahan won it in 07 for 7 in 7. i think if Kilkenny had won the final Reid would have been POTY
Young player of the year - Adrian Mullen, he was superb all year except for the final wheter it was the pressure of the occasion or he was generally ill as were the reports he never performed but for me he did enough in the previous games.
Maybe i have got a lot of these picks wrong and everbody wont agree with me but how and ever. On a side note the all stars is a flawed system in a way as realistically its generally players from the 4 semi finalists that win the award whereas i feel it should go on how teams hurl all year in the league and championship but again thats just an opinion.
LetItIn6 (Wexford) - Posts: 21 - 26/09/2019 08:40:18
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Replying To LetItIn6: "Might as well start a thread on this.
Some brilliant hurling by unreal athletes all year, serious passion and skill on show once again that gave us all fantastic enjoyment for the year. Probably not as good a championship as 2018 but only marginal in saying that.
my All star team would be :
1. Eoin Murphy
2. Seán Finn
3. Liam Ryan
4. Ronan Maher
5. Brendan Maher
6. Pádraig Walsh
7. Pádraic Maher
8. Noel McGrath
9. Diarmuid O'Keefe
10. Lee Chin
11. Tj Reid
12. John McGrath
13. Pat Horgan
14. Seamie Callanan
15. Adrian Mullen
Player of the year - Seamie Callanan, 8 goals in 8 games is unbelievable, Dan Shanahan won it in 07 for 7 in 7. i think if Kilkenny had won the final Reid would have been POTY
Young player of the year - Adrian Mullen, he was superb all year except for the final wheter it was the pressure of the occasion or he was generally ill as were the reports he never performed but for me he did enough in the previous games.
Maybe i have got a lot of these picks wrong and everbody wont agree with me but how and ever. On a side note the all stars is a flawed system in a way as realistically its generally players from the 4 semi finalists that win the award whereas i feel it should go on how teams hurl all year in the league and championship but again thats just an opinion." Gillane instead of Mullen
Telemachus (Limerick) - Posts: 12 - 26/09/2019 09:21:44
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Replying To LetItIn6: "Might as well start a thread on this.
Some brilliant hurling by unreal athletes all year, serious passion and skill on show once again that gave us all fantastic enjoyment for the year. Probably not as good a championship as 2018 but only marginal in saying that.
my All star team would be :
1. Eoin Murphy
2. Seán Finn
3. Liam Ryan
4. Ronan Maher
5. Brendan Maher
6. Pádraig Walsh
7. Pádraic Maher
8. Noel McGrath
9. Diarmuid O'Keefe
10. Lee Chin
11. Tj Reid
12. John McGrath
13. Pat Horgan
14. Seamie Callanan
15. Adrian Mullen
Player of the year - Seamie Callanan, 8 goals in 8 games is unbelievable, Dan Shanahan won it in 07 for 7 in 7. i think if Kilkenny had won the final Reid would have been POTY
Young player of the year - Adrian Mullen, he was superb all year except for the final wheter it was the pressure of the occasion or he was generally ill as were the reports he never performed but for me he did enough in the previous games.
Maybe i have got a lot of these picks wrong and everbody wont agree with me but how and ever. On a side note the all stars is a flawed system in a way as realistically its generally players from the 4 semi finalists that win the award whereas i feel it should go on how teams hurl all year in the league and championship but again thats just an opinion." you give wexford 3 allstars for winning leinster.....you give limerick one for winning munster ( hammering the eventual all ireland champions) and also winning the national hurling league.
munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1099 - 26/09/2019 09:43:49
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Replying To LetItIn6: "Might as well start a thread on this.
Some brilliant hurling by unreal athletes all year, serious passion and skill on show once again that gave us all fantastic enjoyment for the year. Probably not as good a championship as 2018 but only marginal in saying that.
my All star team would be :
1. Eoin Murphy
2. Seán Finn
3. Liam Ryan
4. Ronan Maher
5. Brendan Maher
6. Pádraig Walsh
7. Pádraic Maher
8. Noel McGrath
9. Diarmuid O'Keefe
10. Lee Chin
11. Tj Reid
12. John McGrath
13. Pat Horgan
14. Seamie Callanan
15. Adrian Mullen
Player of the year - Seamie Callanan, 8 goals in 8 games is unbelievable, Dan Shanahan won it in 07 for 7 in 7. i think if Kilkenny had won the final Reid would have been POTY
Young player of the year - Adrian Mullen, he was superb all year except for the final wheter it was the pressure of the occasion or he was generally ill as were the reports he never performed but for me he did enough in the previous games.
Maybe i have got a lot of these picks wrong and everbody wont agree with me but how and ever. On a side note the all stars is a flawed system in a way as realistically its generally players from the 4 semi finalists that win the award whereas i feel it should go on how teams hurl all year in the league and championship but again thats just an opinion." I agree it's a flawed system and has been for years. Back in 1971 when the All-Stars were introduced there was a much more balanced effort, with players like Damien Martin and Mick Bermingham being selected despite their counties being knocked out of the championship early. That year both Tipp (All-Ireland winners) and Kilkenny (runners-up) got four All-Stars each and it was the same in the football (Offaly and Galway). That was a fairer system. Nowadays it's very difficult to get an All-Star if you don't reach the last four of the championship.
Given the constraints of the current system you have selected a strong team but I'd make three changes: Matthew O'Hanlon instead of Padraig Walsh, John O'Dwyer instead of John McGrath and Aaron Gillane instead of Adrian Mullen, but as you say not everyone will agree with me either.
midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 545 - 26/09/2019 09:46:21
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Replying To LetItIn6: "Might as well start a thread on this.
Some brilliant hurling by unreal athletes all year, serious passion and skill on show once again that gave us all fantastic enjoyment for the year. Probably not as good a championship as 2018 but only marginal in saying that.
my All star team would be :
1. Eoin Murphy
2. Seán Finn
3. Liam Ryan
4. Ronan Maher
5. Brendan Maher
6. Pádraig Walsh
7. Pádraic Maher
8. Noel McGrath
9. Diarmuid O'Keefe
10. Lee Chin
11. Tj Reid
12. John McGrath
13. Pat Horgan
14. Seamie Callanan
15. Adrian Mullen
Player of the year - Seamie Callanan, 8 goals in 8 games is unbelievable, Dan Shanahan won it in 07 for 7 in 7. i think if Kilkenny had won the final Reid would have been POTY
Young player of the year - Adrian Mullen, he was superb all year except for the final wheter it was the pressure of the occasion or he was generally ill as were the reports he never performed but for me he did enough in the previous games.
Maybe i have got a lot of these picks wrong and everbody wont agree with me but how and ever. On a side note the all stars is a flawed system in a way as realistically its generally players from the 4 semi finalists that win the award whereas i feel it should go on how teams hurl all year in the league and championship but again thats just an opinion." No Cathal Barrett, played 7 matches and won all 7, no coincidence there. Forde and Dwyer contributed more from play all year than Mullen and John McGrath.
There's no way Liam Ryan will get an All Star ahead of Barrett Ronan Maher and Finn in the full back line.
And no way could Mullen be justified in getting one ahead of Dwyer and Forde.
Murphy only played half the games this year and his distribution was very poor.
GoldenVale (UK) - Posts: 22 - 26/09/2019 10:06:16
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1. Eoin Murphy
2. Cathal Barrett
3. Ronan Maher
4. Padraig Walsh
5. Brendan Maher
6. Padraic Maher
7. Paddy Deegan
8. Diarmuid O Keeffe
9. Noel McGrath
10. Lee Chin
11. TJ Reid
12. Graeme Mulcahy
13. Aaron Gillane
14. Seamus Callanan
15. Patrick Horgan
6 Tipp
4 Kilkenny
2 Limerick
2 Wexford
1 Cork
Hurler of the Year: Callanan
Young Hurler of the Year: Rory O Connor
890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 26/09/2019 11:10:10
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Replying To munsterchamps: "you give wexford 3 allstars for winning leinster.....you give limerick one for winning munster ( hammering the eventual all ireland champions) and also winning the national hurling league." Keeping up limericks fine whinging tradition....
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 26/09/2019 14:36:51
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Replying To wexico15: "Keeping up limericks fine whinging tradition...." 1. Enda Rowlands
2. Sean Finn
3. Liam Ryan
4. Cathal Barrett
5. Brendan Maher
6. Padraic Maher
7. Ronan Maher
8. Diarmuid O Keeffe
9. Noel McGrath
10. Lee Chin
11. TJ Reid
12. John O'Dwyer
13. Aaron Gillane
14. Seamus Callanan
15. Patrick Horgan
That's the team that I'd pick. It's probably inconceivable that Kilkenny would only get one award (stranger things have happened). Anyone or more of Padraig Walsh, Deegan or Huh Lawlor could be picked in defence, and I'd find nothing wrong with that, but this is the team that I'd pick.
shoulderghost (Limerick) - Posts: 863 - 26/09/2019 15:57:54
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Replying To shoulderghost: "1. Enda Rowlands
2. Sean Finn
3. Liam Ryan
4. Cathal Barrett
5. Brendan Maher
6. Padraic Maher
7. Ronan Maher
8. Diarmuid O Keeffe
9. Noel McGrath
10. Lee Chin
11. TJ Reid
12. John O'Dwyer
13. Aaron Gillane
14. Seamus Callanan
15. Patrick Horgan
That's the team that I'd pick. It's probably inconceivable that Kilkenny would only get one award (stranger things have happened). Anyone or more of Padraig Walsh, Deegan or Huh Lawlor could be picked in defence, and I'd find nothing wrong with that, but this is the team that I'd pick." Read my mind I'd go with that team too, only difference ronan and Padraig maher swap positions
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 26/09/2019 16:13:07
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Replying To 890202: "1. Eoin Murphy
2. Cathal Barrett
3. Ronan Maher
4. Padraig Walsh
5. Brendan Maher
6. Padraic Maher
7. Paddy Deegan
8. Diarmuid O Keeffe
9. Noel McGrath
10. Lee Chin
11. TJ Reid
12. Graeme Mulcahy
13. Aaron Gillane
14. Seamus Callanan
15. Patrick Horgan
6 Tipp
4 Kilkenny
2 Limerick
2 Wexford
1 Cork
Hurler of the Year: Callanan
Young Hurler of the Year: Rory O Connor" As a formula it's pretty much on par with recent years.
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 26/09/2019 17:33:30
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Replying To shoulderghost: "1. Enda Rowlands
2. Sean Finn
3. Liam Ryan
4. Cathal Barrett
5. Brendan Maher
6. Padraic Maher
7. Ronan Maher
8. Diarmuid O Keeffe
9. Noel McGrath
10. Lee Chin
11. TJ Reid
12. John O'Dwyer
13. Aaron Gillane
14. Seamus Callanan
15. Patrick Horgan
That's the team that I'd pick. It's probably inconceivable that Kilkenny would only get one award (stranger things have happened). Anyone or more of Padraig Walsh, Deegan or Huh Lawlor could be picked in defence, and I'd find nothing wrong with that, but this is the team that I'd pick." Really wish I could have seen more of Rowland I've been hearing great things but never get the chance to see Lapis play
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 26/09/2019 17:34:48
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TJ nominated for POY ahead of Brendan Maher, Ronan Maher and Noel McGrath is madness. Ronan despite playing a lot of his hurling in the full back line in his last 3 games scored 4 times as much from play as TJ Reid in those games. Noel got man of match in his last two. Brendan Maher nullified every teams biggest names this year and outscored a lot of them too. It's not all about scores but when the need was greatest Noel McGrath set up more scores than anyone. For me though Ronan Maher was an 8/9 in every game and was the standout player this year.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 26/09/2019 18:33:17
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Replying To tiobraid: "TJ nominated for POY ahead of Brendan Maher, Ronan Maher and Noel McGrath is madness. Ronan despite playing a lot of his hurling in the full back line in his last 3 games scored 4 times as much from play as TJ Reid in those games. Noel got man of match in his last two. Brendan Maher nullified every teams biggest names this year and outscored a lot of them too. It's not all about scores but when the need was greatest Noel McGrath set up more scores than anyone. For me though Ronan Maher was an 8/9 in every game and was the standout player this year." Nominations shouldn't be restricted to just 3, that's the flaw
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 26/09/2019 19:59:06
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Replying To wexico15: " Replying To tiobraid: "TJ nominated for POY ahead of Brendan Maher, Ronan Maher and Noel McGrath is madness. Ronan despite playing a lot of his hurling in the full back line in his last 3 games scored 4 times as much from play as TJ Reid in those games. Noel got man of match in his last two. Brendan Maher nullified every teams biggest names this year and outscored a lot of them too. It's not all about scores but when the need was greatest Noel McGrath set up more scores than anyone. For me though Ronan Maher was an 8/9 in every game and was the standout player this year." Nominations shouldn't be restricted to just 3, that's the flaw"
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 26/09/2019 23:07:19
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1. Enda Rowlands (baffled that Fanning wasnt nominated)
2. Sean Finn
3. Liam Ryan
4. Cathal Barrett
5. Brendan Maher
6. Padraic Maher
7. Ronan Maher
8. Diarmuid O Keeffe
9. Noel McGrath
10. Lee Chin
11. TJ Reid
12. Adrian Mullen
13. Jason Forde
14. Seamus Callanan
15. Patrick Horgan
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 26/09/2019 23:09:34
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Replying To Breezy: "Really wish I could have seen more of Rowland I've been hearing great things but never get the chance to see Lapis play" They wouldn't have beat Dublin without him, 2 booming frees and a brilliant save from sutcliffe.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 26/09/2019 23:18:27
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Replying To wexico15: " Replying To tiobraid: "TJ nominated for POY ahead of Brendan Maher, Ronan Maher and Noel McGrath is madness. Ronan despite playing a lot of his hurling in the full back line in his last 3 games scored 4 times as much from play as TJ Reid in those games. Noel got man of match in his last two. Brendan Maher nullified every teams biggest names this year and outscored a lot of them too. It's not all about scores but when the need was greatest Noel McGrath set up more scores than anyone. For me though Ronan Maher was an 8/9 in every game and was the standout player this year." Nominations shouldn't be restricted to just 3, that's the flaw"
890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 27/09/2019 09:55:31
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Replying To 890202: " Replying To wexico15: "[quote=tiobraid: "TJ nominated for POY ahead of Brendan Maher, Ronan Maher and Noel McGrath is madness. Ronan despite playing a lot of his hurling in the full back line in his last 3 games scored 4 times as much from play as TJ Reid in those games. Noel got man of match in his last two. Brendan Maher nullified every teams biggest names this year and outscored a lot of them too. It's not all about scores but when the need was greatest Noel McGrath set up more scores than anyone. For me though Ronan Maher was an 8/9 in every game and was the standout player this year." Nominations shouldn't be restricted to just 3, that's the flaw"
None of the three nominated for hurler of the year would be who I think should get it.
Of those three nominated I think TJ Reid was the best.
So the wrong guys are nominated and the wrong player within the wrong nominations will probably be named hurler of the year. That in itself sums the whole thing up.
The All Stars are just a PR and marketing exercise. The hogan stand hurling team of the year will hold more water than the all stars team.
We shouldn't lose any sleep about the all stars and take it for the marketing tool it is. Hopefully the lads and lassies will look well in their tuxs and cocktail dresses.
Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 27/09/2019 11:32:23
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Replying To shoulderghost: "1. Enda Rowlands
2. Sean Finn
3. Liam Ryan
4. Cathal Barrett
5. Brendan Maher
6. Padraic Maher
7. Ronan Maher
8. Diarmuid O Keeffe
9. Noel McGrath
10. Lee Chin
11. TJ Reid
12. John O'Dwyer
13. Aaron Gillane
14. Seamus Callanan
15. Patrick Horgan
That's the team that I'd pick. It's probably inconceivable that Kilkenny would only get one award (stranger things have happened). Anyone or more of Padraig Walsh, Deegan or Huh Lawlor could be picked in defence, and I'd find nothing wrong with that, but this is the team that I'd pick." Joey Holden before them. Great season and a very underrated player.
TJ before SC. Goal scoring was impressive but TJ is a much more complete hurler & had a bigger influence than SC. Doubt it will happen, never put much stake in these awards. Congrats to all nonetheless.
...and THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER SEASON OF FANTASTIC ENTERTAINMENT!!!
PS. Have to say thanks to GAAGO, who I've been very harsh with & as a subscriber since the beginning have had plenty of valid complaints(still do) but adding every televised club match to my subscription was like an early Christmas! So thanks. Maybe some Camogie or Fitzgibbon in the future.
Gowran_Yank (Kilkenny) - Posts: 96 - 27/09/2019 12:02:07
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Replying To 890202: " Replying To wexico15: "[quote=tiobraid: "TJ nominated for POY ahead of Brendan Maher, Ronan Maher and Noel McGrath is madness. Ronan despite playing a lot of his hurling in the full back line in his last 3 games scored 4 times as much from play as TJ Reid in those games. Noel got man of match in his last two. Brendan Maher nullified every teams biggest names this year and outscored a lot of them too. It's not all about scores but when the need was greatest Noel McGrath set up more scores than anyone. For me though Ronan Maher was an 8/9 in every game and was the standout player this year." Nominations shouldn't be restricted to just 3, that's the flaw"
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/09/2019 17:46:20
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