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If you swapped Jim Gavin around with any of those managers the results would stay the same. If the Louth manager was in charge of dublin and gavin over louth, gavin wouldn't be much of a winner. I'd argue a manager from any county in Ireland could bring Sam home for Dublin this year or next.
Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 11/08/2019 05:46:23 2223777 Link 11 |
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One team being allowed destroy a sport. Meanwhile the administrators twiddle their thumbs and their greedy fans lap it up. RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 11/08/2019 08:29:17 2223796 Link 2 |
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but..but.. fitness
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 11/08/2019 09:07:00 2223807 Link 4 |
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Good stuff Dublin, keep er lit :D
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 11/08/2019 09:07:27 2223808 Link 11 |
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As would be expected of you!
DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 932 - 11/08/2019 09:25:12 2223815 Link 0 |
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Only difference is, Gavin built this team. It didn't just magic itself out of thin air due to GDF money as the naysayers would have the sheep believe. It has been meticulously assembled, game plans in place, a playing ethos established, every man knows his job. This is all fronted by Gavin. Yesterday's turnaround didn't just happen. It was orchestrated by Gavin. This is his team. It takes a special manager to accomplish what he has accomplished.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 11/08/2019 12:01:00 2223895 Link 8 |
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What is the craic with the fitness argument? It was right after halftime when dublin won that game not in the last 10 mins, fitness had nothing to do with it yesterday!
achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 11/08/2019 13:44:15 2223947 Link 1 |
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If only they did twiddle their thumbs! They do the opposite - they fund Dublin to the hilt and have created an environment within Gaelic games in Dublin that simply isn't possible to replicate in any other county in Ireland. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5017 - 11/08/2019 14:42:12 2223970 Link 0 |
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You Dubs change like the wind! On how many threads have we seen Dublin posters, yourself included, list all the lads who are there since 2011. Now, it's the team that Jim built. Which is it?? The poster who says any manager would win All Irelands with Dublin is 100% correct. The most noteworthy result of the Jim Gavin era is the loss to Donegal in 2014. Every other Dublin game has gone with the bookies' favourite. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5017 - 11/08/2019 14:45:40 2223972 Link 3 |
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Long may it continue. A great team giving great entertainment.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 11/08/2019 14:50:27 2223974 Link 8 |
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Pat Gilroy built it and if he was still in charge instead of Gavin you'd be winning the all Ireland anyway. Gavin has transitioned it very well but I don't think any top manager would of had problems doing it.
Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 11/08/2019 15:24:18 2224004 Link 9 |
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Great entertainment! Hilarious. Even Dublin fanbase is dwindling. RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 11/08/2019 16:00:02 2224019 Link 2 |
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Ha. Evidence that any manager would win with Dublin? Name that manager. 8 key players from 2011. Gavin merged in the likes of Fenton, Kilkenny, Byrne, Murchan, Mannion, Scully, Howard to form today's incredible team. The 2011 class still provides the backbone but the new stars under Gavin complete the perfect set of ingredients. But sure everyone who knows their football knows this. Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 11/08/2019 17:14:23 2224085 Link 9 |
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Gavin has introduced Kilkenny, Con, Mannion, Fenton, Jack, Howard, Murchan, Scully. His handprints are all over this team, incredible job to seamlessly transition this group but the 2011 lads are still backbone, yes no doubt.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 11/08/2019 17:17:01 2224088 Link 9 |
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There's hardly going to be evidence given that nobody else has had the job, is there? But considering McGuinness winning Ulster with a team that hadn't won a 1st round game in 4 years, followed by an all ireland the next year and a final appearance 2 years after that, I'd say he'd have done what Gavin has with Dublin. He took over a county going nowhere and has transformed them for years to come. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5017 - 11/08/2019 17:41:59 2224121 Link 1 |
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What changes should the administrators make? There isn't enough evidence that this is not a cyclical phase. Funding is not going to be switched off when there's a battle with rugby and soccer. Solutions have to be specific.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7873 - 11/08/2019 17:59:07 2224147 Link 1 |
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If somebody says that "any manager would win an AI with Dublin" then they should provide their reasons for such a statement. Would Mickey Harte win with Dublin? Would they play the Harte way or the Gavin way? There is no evidence to support the statement that you endorse. It's just more whataboutery from the usual blusterers.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 11/08/2019 18:37:20 2224185 Link 9 |
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20m of some of the best football seen in that second half yesterday. No question.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 11/08/2019 18:39:13 2224187 Link 7 |
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It was boring as hell watching it.
RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 11/08/2019 19:05:27 2224210 Link 1 |
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Population of a province. Funding of a province. Acts like a county. Solution is obvious. RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 11/08/2019 19:06:49 2224211 Link 6 |