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was at it, but looking at it now, surly surly the worst final ever? spillane slould have got an oscar not a medal
Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2848 - 24/07/2019 20:40:40
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Replying To Stmunnsriver: "was at it, but looking at it now, surly surly the worst final ever? spillane slould have got an oscar not a medal" There was so much rain in Dublin that day September 21 1980 that I thought the match might have to be called off.The weather spoiled the game.It was a very competitive match though so it's totally wrong to describe it as the worst Final ever.In Roscommon,we see it as a Final we could and perhaps should have won.We had won 4 Connacht titles in a row and the National League in 1979.We had the late great Dermot Earley at midfield.We were up against that fine Kerry team that nearly did what the Dubs are trying to do this year,the elusive 5 senior All-Ireland titles in a row.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2182 - 24/07/2019 21:02:59
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Replying To Stmunnsriver: "was at it, but looking at it now, surly surly the worst final ever? spillane slould have got an oscar not a medal" Michael O Hehir didn't spare the referee. Would have to be more discreet nowadays. Was kind of depressed after watching it to be honest as I loved that era with the Kerry, Dubs rivalry but had forgotten how pedestrian football was back then compared to now. Great footballers in their day but hard to watch at this stage.
Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 24/07/2019 21:09:43
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2010 was surely worse?!!
TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 24/07/2019 21:35:35
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I'm intrigued at the inspiration for this thread but it's a final I remember for sure. I wasn't at it but remember watching it. 1-9 to 1-6. Roscommon wouldn't win Connaught again that decade. The Jigger O:Connors handpass goal. It was ugly but it came early. Risocommon were fit and physical in those days.
That was our greatest ever player's heyday and its a pity it didn't go his way. I'm referring to Dermot Earley of course. Hard to believe he was in his thirties at that stage and played for so many years after. Anyone of you who don't know who he was should check out his military career and watch his state funeral in Newbridge. Chief of Staff of the Defence Forces and Military Advisor to the UN General Secretary.
The general commentary in the years after that was that Roscommon went too physical in that game and could have beaten Kerry if they hadn't. I've no idea if that's true or not but I do recall Micko alluding to it in a Kerry Golden Years video years later.
Am I right in saying The Bomber had an operation of sorts a fee days before the final?
Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 24/07/2019 22:05:29
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Replying To endgame: "There was so much rain in Dublin that day September 21 1980 that I thought the match might have to be called off.The weather spoiled the game.It was a very competitive match though so it's totally wrong to describe it as the worst Final ever.In Roscommon,we see it as a Final we could and perhaps should have won.We had won 4 Connacht titles in a row and the National League in 1979.We had the late great Dermot Earley at midfield.We were up against that fine Kerry team that nearly did what the Dubs are trying to do this year,the elusive 5 senior All-Ireland titles in a row." Watching it earlier and Ros really threw that game away. Missed some shocking easy frees. Looking back on the old stuff shows how despite all the rubbish spouted football has improved immensely especially when both teams go out with a positive game plan.
catchturnscore (Longford) - Posts: 149 - 24/07/2019 22:11:12
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Replying To Sindar: "I'm intrigued at the inspiration for this thread but it's a final I remember for sure. I wasn't at it but remember watching it. 1-9 to 1-6. Roscommon wouldn't win Connaught again that decade. The Jigger O:Connors handpass goal. It was ugly but it came early. Risocommon were fit and physical in those days.
That was our greatest ever player's heyday and its a pity it didn't go his way. I'm referring to Dermot Earley of course. Hard to believe he was in his thirties at that stage and played for so many years after. Anyone of you who don't know who he was should check out his military career and watch his state funeral in Newbridge. Chief of Staff of the Defence Forces and Military Advisor to the UN General Secretary.
The general commentary in the years after that was that Roscommon went too physical in that game and could have beaten Kerry if they hadn't. I've no idea if that's true or not but I do recall Micko alluding to it in a Kerry Golden Years video years later.
Am I right in saying The Bomber had an operation of sorts a fee days before the final?" Bomber an appendix out.
BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 24/07/2019 22:18:30
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Replying To Sindar: "I'm intrigued at the inspiration for this thread but it's a final I remember for sure. I wasn't at it but remember watching it. 1-9 to 1-6. Roscommon wouldn't win Connaught again that decade. The Jigger O:Connors handpass goal. It was ugly but it came early. Risocommon were fit and physical in those days.
That was our greatest ever player's heyday and its a pity it didn't go his way. I'm referring to Dermot Earley of course. Hard to believe he was in his thirties at that stage and played for so many years after. Anyone of you who don't know who he was should check out his military career and watch his state funeral in Newbridge. Chief of Staff of the Defence Forces and Military Advisor to the UN General Secretary.
The general commentary in the years after that was that Roscommon went too physical in that game and could have beaten Kerry if they hadn't. I've no idea if that's true or not but I do recall Micko alluding to it in a Kerry Golden Years video years later.
Am I right in saying The Bomber had an operation of sorts a fee days before the final?" I imagine the inspiration for this thread is that it was shown tonight on TG4.
Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 959 - 24/07/2019 22:32:12
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Replying To Sindar: "I'm intrigued at the inspiration for this thread but it's a final I remember for sure. I wasn't at it but remember watching it. 1-9 to 1-6. Roscommon wouldn't win Connaught again that decade. The Jigger O:Connors handpass goal. It was ugly but it came early. Risocommon were fit and physical in those days.
That was our greatest ever player's heyday and its a pity it didn't go his way. I'm referring to Dermot Earley of course. Hard to believe he was in his thirties at that stage and played for so many years after. Anyone of you who don't know who he was should check out his military career and watch his state funeral in Newbridge. Chief of Staff of the Defence Forces and Military Advisor to the UN General Secretary.
The general commentary in the years after that was that Roscommon went too physical in that game and could have beaten Kerry if they hadn't. I've no idea if that's true or not but I do recall Micko alluding to it in a Kerry Golden Years video years later.
Am I right in saying The Bomber had an operation of sorts a fee days before the final?" It was on TG4 this evening All Ireland Gold, it was a good watch but football was so slow back then, all the guf Spillane says about kick passing, Kerry were like a volleyball team back then with all the hand passing, throwing it around, Roscommon missed a lot of scoreable frees, should really have won it.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2759 - 25/07/2019 00:14:09
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Ref beat us that day. It makes me sick every time i watch it
roses (Roscommon) - Posts: 26 - 25/07/2019 00:37:50
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Replying To Stmunnsriver: "was at it, but looking at it now, surly surly the worst final ever? spillane slould have got an oscar not a medal" Agreed! They're not called the cute Kerry hoors for nothing!
DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 932 - 25/07/2019 00:58:08
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I wasn't at the game, way too young ;-)
But I remember it very well. If you look at the youtube video of the game, you would think that Roscommon were the glamour team in the first half. They had their tails up, dominated possession and played with flair. But that Kerry team was exceptional, they bided their time and never panicked... cos they were Kerry. They didn't resort to these Tyrone inspired tactics of dragging the opposition into the gutter with you, i.e. stop them from playing football. They simply outplayed Roscommon by playing hard but fair football. The athletic ability and raw talent in that Roscommon team was probably greater than Kerry but the opposition team had Kerry jersies on their backs.
Crepe paper Roscommon caps with the blue running into the primrose band is my abiding memory of those great years. Oh Danny Boy......
Hoofhearted (Australia) - Posts: 49 - 25/07/2019 02:40:21
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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes: "Michael O Hehir didn't spare the referee. Would have to be more discreet nowadays. Was kind of depressed after watching it to be honest as I loved that era with the Kerry, Dubs rivalry but had forgotten how pedestrian football was back then compared to now. Great footballers in their day but hard to watch at this stage." Different tastes I suppose. Seeing it on TG4 last night it was a poor enough game particularly in the first half but I would prefer it 100 times more than the back passing basketball style play of the modern game which I find dreadful to watch. It only seemed slow because back then players generally took an age over frees and kick outs as players mostly stayed in positions and were man marked. Even so, was interesting to see how often Jack O Shea popped up in his own full back line! Certainly was a game Roscommon could have won or drawn but their free taking let them down.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1907 - 25/07/2019 07:56:19
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That great Roscommon team is a big part of my childhood days going to matches in the 70s, we couldn't beat them. Sure at the time I was with my hero, Dad, and losing was only secondary to being there. He used to walk out after the games saying 'never going back watching them ####### again'! He meant it at the time but sure a year without championship football can erase bad memories. Men were tougher then I'll swear, no gym bunnies, supplements, booze bans and strict diets.Gerry Fitzmaurice is surely still a tough man, from Ballinlough just a few miles from my home place. Harry Keegan must have cleaned us a few times because 40 odd years later his name is burnt into my brain. In fairness Kerry weren't bad at the football either. Great days.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7373 - 25/07/2019 09:27:36
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Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Different tastes I suppose. Seeing it on TG4 last night it was a poor enough game particularly in the first half but I would prefer it 100 times more than the back passing basketball style play of the modern game which I find dreadful to watch. It only seemed slow because back then players generally took an age over frees and kick outs as players mostly stayed in positions and were man marked. Even so, was interesting to see how often Jack O Shea popped up in his own full back line! Certainly was a game Roscommon could have won or drawn but their free taking let them down." Yeah I agree that the free kicks off the ground slowed everything down. Didn't go in for much tactics just batter the ball as far as you can and hope the forward will win the fifty, fifty. Roscommon had some great footballers at that time and will kick themselves as that All Ireland was winnable. That Kerry team would adapt to any era and I don't think the modern day style of play would faze them.
Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 25/07/2019 10:34:37
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If Dermot Early, R.I.P. converted the penalty it would have been something, or am I mistaken?
maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 25/07/2019 12:43:21
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Would be an interesting documentary to compare intercounty coaching, conditioning and lifestyles of 1980 to 2019. Maybe the football is better but the players back then looked like they enjoyed their football and life a bit more than the modern footballer.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7373 - 25/07/2019 12:46:03
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My father, never a man to praise Roscommon too highly said it was an All-Ireland that they threw away. They tried to rough up Kerry in the second half and it didn't work according to him
He also said Dermot Earley was one of the greatest players he's ever seen, up there with Purcell, Stockwell, McGarty and O'Rourke
Thelonesomegoose (Leitrim) - Posts: 204 - 25/07/2019 13:20:06
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Replying To GreenandRed: " linkThat great Roscommon team is a big part of my childhood days going to matches in the 70s, we couldn't beat them. Sure at the time I was with my hero, Dad, and losing was only secondary to being there. He used to walk out after the games saying 'never going back watching them ####### again'! He meant it at the time but sure a year without championship football can erase bad memories. Men were tougher then I'll swear, no gym bunnies, supplements, booze bans and strict diets.Gerry Fitzmaurice is surely still a tough man, from Ballinlough just a few miles from my home place. Harry Keegan must have cleaned us a few times because 40 odd years later his name is burnt into my brain. In fairness Kerry weren't bad at the football either. Great days."
Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 308 - 25/07/2019 13:43:27
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Replying To GreenandRed: " linkThat great Roscommon team is a big part of my childhood days going to matches in the 70s, we couldn't beat them. Sure at the time I was with my hero, Dad, and losing was only secondary to being there. He used to walk out after the games saying 'never going back watching them ####### again'! He meant it at the time but sure a year without championship football can erase bad memories. Men were tougher then I'll swear, no gym bunnies, supplements, booze bans and strict diets.Gerry Fitzmaurice is surely still a tough man, from Ballinlough just a few miles from my home place. Harry Keegan must have cleaned us a few times because 40 odd years later his name is burnt into my brain. In fairness Kerry weren't bad at the football either. Great days."
GreenAndGold74 (Kerry) - Posts: 194 - 25/07/2019 14:27:55
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