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I think this is all crazy stuff. I think Dublin know they will win this handy. Just like I think deep down Cork fans knew we would beat Laois. I feel this Cork team have played there way to a point where they could be on the cusp of the second 6/8 teams. By that I mean you have your top 4/5 real contenders, then the next level. Normally that should be most of division 1 and 2, however league is league and championship is what matters. However I don't feel Cork are there yet. They need to at least compete in the next 3 games. I would say stay within 10 of Dublin, challenge Tyrone seriously and get a result against Roscommon before they can seriously think that they are back amongst the second 6/8. What do I think will happen? Well I fear for us massively this weekend. I would like to not see them demoralised and then really go for the next two. Then they will have something tangible to build on. Keep the hard working squad together for next year. Try and unearth a player or two and get Powter back to full fitness. BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 311 - 08/07/2019 11:54:40 2207723 Link
A bit like Meath before them, Cork come into this game on the crest of a wave, but haven't come up against Dublin in the championship since 2013. While they've been very impressive in their 3 championship games, Dublin in Croke Park is a different animal, and the major difference between Dublins footballers and their hurlers, is the 6 inches between the ears. Dublin wont underestimate Cork, and they wont have one eye on whats ahead. Cork, like Meath, will get maximum respect which makes the unlikely chance of a shock, even more unlikely. Dublin to win this game but don't expect it to be a mauling. 6 or 7 points in the end. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 08/07/2019 12:04:41 2207730 Link
Replying To waynoI: "A bit like Meath before them, Cork come into this game on the crest of a wave, but haven't come up against Dublin in the championship since 2013. While they've been very impressive in their 3 championship games, Dublin in Croke Park is a different animal, and the major difference between Dublins footballers and their hurlers, is the 6 inches between the ears. Dublin wont underestimate Cork, and they wont have one eye on whats ahead. Cork, like Meath, will get maximum respect which makes the unlikely chance of a shock, even more unlikely. Dublin to win this game but don't expect it to be a mauling. 6 or 7 points in the end." BTW, credit to Damothedub for the "difference between the hurlers and footballers is the 6 inches between the ears" analogy. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 08/07/2019 12:21:22 2207737 Link
Replying To pidge: "what is the general thinking going into this game? obviously on all known form dublin should win it handy but as for this cork side..i have no words. where are they in the pecking order of things?.. this team got relegated from division 2 and i believed that this season would have ended last month with a semi final loss in munster and indeed the following qualifier..but something has changed with this side. what is the prediction for this game? can cork put it up to dublin and give them a stern test or will it be an absolute walkover? my own thinking is i have no idea where we are at.the drubbing of limerick was in my mind a freak result and the performance against kerry in the munster final where cork should have won but came out with a respectable loss (moral victory) was also against the form book which brings me to todays result against laois..now i know the opposition was not top calibre but to put up 4-20 is some going against any side.and its baffling to know where cork are now and probably wont really know until the tyrone game as for my thoughts on the dublin game..i may still be on an absolute high from the laois game but i believe cork can run them maybe 5 or 6 points close.(who knows couple goals and we win) but that is my heart talking and i know full well those notions could well be destroyed come 7:10 pm saturday evening prediction dublin by 7 what are your thoughts?" Cork are in the Super 8's purely because of geograptical reasons. They beat a poor Div 4 team to qualify for round 4 of the qualifers and when arriving there got drawn against a team who played Div 3 this year. There are much better teams not in the super 8's than Cork but don't have the same advantages. Cavan for example beat Monaghan and Armagh this year but there are a couple more teams who were unlucky with the draw. Lets not say this Cork team are anything more than they are, Dublin will beat them by 15+, Tyrone by 10+ and Roscommon by 5+. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 08/07/2019 12:32:13 2207744 Link
Dublin will win this one by 12. Cork are very lucky boys to be in super 8. OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 08/07/2019 12:34:30 2207747 Link
Dublin by 10+ pulling up without even playing that well. Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 08/07/2019 13:01:50 2207768 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "I would be very wary of the Rossies myself, two division one finalists of the last twelve months already took them for granted and were dumped unceremoniously in the Hunger games with the other waifs and strays. They will have a massive say in this group, its not the same happy to get this far Rossies, of the quarters of the last few years." Apologies, I didn't mean to ignore the Rossies and I think (hope) you are right - they will give teams a rund for their money. But if Cork lose to Dublin first and Tyrone second, it would require other results to go their way and score difference to qualify. That's why i think the Tyrone match is the game they have to target to win. Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 308 - 08/07/2019 13:08:19 2207774 Link
The handicap is 11 and I'll be lumping on that. the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 08/07/2019 13:12:14 2207785 Link
Replying To sam1884: "Cork are in the Super 8's purely because of geograptical reasons. They beat a poor Div 4 team to qualify for round 4 of the qualifers and when arriving there got drawn against a team who played Div 3 this year. There are much better teams not in the super 8's than Cork but don't have the same advantages. Cavan for example beat Monaghan and Armagh this year but there are a couple more teams who were unlucky with the draw. Lets not say this Cork team are anything more than they are, Dublin will beat them by 15+, Tyrone by 10+ and Roscommon by 5+." That's probably about right, not that Cavan can claim we deserve to be there after Saturday's performance (or complete lack thereof). But there's definitely an imbalance there that can only be fixed by getting rid of the link between provincials and All-Ireland. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5017 - 08/07/2019 13:32:32 2207810 Link
I wouldn't be expecting Dublin to hammer Cork, should Dublin be the better side, there will be a plan in place to do just enough and conserve energy with the busy weeks ahead. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 08/07/2019 13:41:54 2207821 Link
This will be easy. Motte (Cork) - Posts: 48 - 08/07/2019 13:45:55 2207827 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "That's probably about right, not that Cavan can claim we deserve to be there after Saturday's performance (or complete lack thereof). But there's definitely an imbalance there that can only be fixed by getting rid of the link between provincials and All-Ireland." It was a horrible performance from Cavan against a Tyrone team who played well but I feel Cavan were beat before they entered the pitch. However Cavan are still a much better team than at least two super 8 teams and maybe 3 as are one or two other counties. The system has allowed Cork an almost free passage into the super 8's, they're there due to geography. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 10/07/2019 09:07:15 2208852 Link
It's nuts we have to play no one to get into the super 8's Roscommon had to play Mayo and Galway both away to get to the same position. Cavan had to play Monaghan Donegal and Tyrone to get to the super 8's it's ridiculous this system is still going on. Play a league form with all the top teams top 4 make the semi's and winners then the final, that way all the big teams play each other every year no matter what, clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 10/07/2019 09:59:07 2208873 Link
Hear that James McCarthy is out for Dubs..,Philly McMahon is playing. For Cork, Killian O' Hanlon is listed on team but is a doubtful starter. Eoghan McSweeney is still injured. Roll on Saturday Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 10/07/2019 16:50:17 2209136 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "It's nuts we have to play no one to get into the super 8's Roscommon had to play Mayo and Galway both away to get to the same position. Cavan had to play Monaghan Donegal and Tyrone to get to the super 8's it's ridiculous this system is still going on. Play a league form with all the top teams top 4 make the semi's and winners then the final, that way all the big teams play each other every year no matter what," Cant say that i disagree, if i was from Connacht or Ulster i would be going full Ewen McKenna on the advantages that Dublin and Kerry have in Leinster and Munster. You should never go full Ewen though. TheUsername (Dublin)* - Posts: 4445 - 10/07/2019 17:51:26 2209170 Link
Cork do deserve super 8 status and the Dubs will be the first to know why, unbelievable anti-Cork stupidity being posted here, looking forward to this game. suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1671 - 10/07/2019 17:54:02 2209174 Link
Replying To suckvalleypaddy: "Cork do deserve super 8 status and the Dubs will be the first to know why, unbelievable anti-Cork stupidity being posted here, looking forward to this game." Absolutely, Cork have serious fire power up front they will give us serious problems no doubt about it. I'm really looking forward to this game it will be exciting cause Cork attack all game and have loads of pace. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 10/07/2019 21:43:02 2209263 Link
Cork deserve to be where they are alright. No doubt They'll soon realize exactly what that entails. This Cork team has limited experience playing against Dublin in Croke Park. It'll really show where they are. Looking forward to it. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 10/07/2019 22:14:41 2209277 Link
Replying To sam1884: "Cork are in the Super 8's purely because of geograptical reasons. They beat a poor Div 4 team to qualify for round 4 of the qualifers and when arriving there got drawn against a team who played Div 3 this year. There are much better teams not in the super 8's than Cork but don't have the same advantages. Cavan for example beat Monaghan and Armagh this year but there are a couple more teams who were unlucky with the draw. Lets not say this Cork team are anything more than they are, Dublin will beat them by 15+, Tyrone by 10+ and Roscommon by 5+." You think we'll beat Tyrone in Omagh by 10+? I'll have a pint of yours please mate :D realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 11/07/2019 00:16:58 2209313 Link
Cooper and McCarthy out injured. Cork can lose 2 games and still qualify for semis. Lose to Dublin and Tyrone , beat Roscommon at Puc. .., if Roscommon beats Tyrone and Dubs win All 3 games..comes down to goal difference. Killian O' Hanlon is 50/50 to start ...he has been playing well. If he's out, Paul Kerrigan May start and renew battle/rivalry with Philly McMahon Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 11/07/2019 00:49:40 2209314 Link