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Boycott Leinster Championship 2020

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Replying To Greenfield:  "
Replying To CornAghais91:  "Did your county kick 4 pts in a Leinster Final recently?

Was it someone else's fault?

Then 'Leinster Lite' could be for you.

A competition where you get to choose the opposition and not look so incompetent when kicking wides from everywhere. So to win your very own version of the Delaney Cup, sign up now.

It's the way forward, surely."
A friendly word.

On these message boards it takes a bit of time to build up some credibility so that your musings get read/respected.

If you are not even 20 posts in and are coming up with this drivel then your future here, among other things, doesn't seem too bright.

Another one to be avoided."
Don't mind him

Great start!

;)

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 02/07/2019 20:35:27    2204526

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Replying To baire:  "
Replying To CornAghais91:  "Did your county kick 4 pts in a Leinster Final recently?

Was it someone else's fault?

Then 'Leinster Lite' could be for you.

A competition where you get to choose the opposition and not look so incompetent when kicking wides from everywhere. So to win your very own version of the Delaney Cup, sign up now.

It's the way forward, surely."
Dublin supporters don't like their great team to be criticised and I understand why they'd be aggrieved by it. My criticism has been with the system and the unfairness of it, nothing to do with the Dublin team who play with great skill and heart. Likewise with those who lose and lose badly. Anyone who has ever played a sport knows that those Meath players are hurting very badly, the least ppl could do here is to say nothing if they don't have anything constructive to say about them. It's most unsporting to hit anyone who is down, cowardly in fact."
So you can say what you like against Dublin but can't take it back? Ridiculous argument

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 02/07/2019 20:35:58    2204527

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Replying To baire:  "
Replying To CornAghais91:  "Did your county kick 4 pts in a Leinster Final recently?

Was it someone else's fault?

Then 'Leinster Lite' could be for you.

A competition where you get to choose the opposition and not look so incompetent when kicking wides from everywhere. So to win your very own version of the Delaney Cup, sign up now.

It's the way forward, surely."
Dublin supporters don't like their great team to be criticised and I understand why they'd be aggrieved by it. My criticism has been with the system and the unfairness of it, nothing to do with the Dublin team who play with great skill and heart. Likewise with those who lose and lose badly. Anyone who has ever played a sport knows that those Meath players are hurting very badly, the least ppl could do here is to say nothing if they don't have anything constructive to say about them. It's most unsporting to hit anyone who is down, cowardly in fact."
I wouldn't overestimate the class and sporting integrity of the Dublin posters on here. They are the definition of the Hill16 cliché.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1319 - 02/07/2019 20:36:47    2204528

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Replying To legendzxix:  "We have a home and away agreement with all counties. We were lucky to get out of Limerick with a draw in 2004. Limerick had momentum. Dublin do not enter the cauldron of an opponent on final day.

Kerry offered Dublin the toss of a coin for home advantage in the 2001 quarter-final. Dublin's preference was for a neutral Thurles in County Tipperary!"
Thanks for the geography lesson ,so bottom line it's in killarney or cork. How many titles have cork ?

Monkeycatcher (Meath) - Posts: 155 - 02/07/2019 20:37:41    2204530

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Dublin supporters don't like their great team to be criticised and I understand why they'd be aggrieved by it. My criticism has been with the system and the unfairness of it, nothing to do with the Dublin team who play with great skill and heart. Likewise with those who lose and lose badly. Anyone who has ever played a sport knows that those Meath players are hurting very badly, the least ppl could do here is to say nothing if they don't have anything constructive to say about them. It's most unsporting to hit anyone who is down, cowardly in fact."
I wouldn't overestimate the class and sporting integrity of the Dublin posters on here. They are the definition of the Hill16 cliché."]And with that the little credibility you had vanishes.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 02/07/2019 20:46:11    2204536

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Replying To seadog54:  "Joxer?"
Well that's a new one. Must be the J that confused you.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 02/07/2019 20:50:40    2204546

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Replying To realdub:  "
Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Have you been hacked? Very refreshing to read a post from a Dub who can see past his own team. And I agree you'd still win but at least without some of the advantages you have.

realdub:
"How on earth any county could take satisfaction from winning a Dublinless Leinster championship is beyond me. Where's the fun in that? What's to be gained on a National level for the 'boycotting' counties?"

How on earth do you take satisfaction in winning Leinster when you look at all the advantages you have? It's a joke.

I'd love Leinster made of up of actual counties. Not Dublin which is 3 county councils in one. Effectively a province. The crowds would return and you'd start seeing finals where teams other then Dublin would bring 20k+ fans to Croker. It would do wonders for the health of the game outside the capital. But apparently we're not important and don't deserve 18m in finding over the next 10 years."
Yes it's not as much fun as it used to be I'll admit, but that's down to the likes of Kildare and Meath being poor.

County boundaries are what drives this sport. Dublin wont always be this good and let's be honest, the level yourselves and Kildare are at is not our fault."
Dublin has evolved into a province. It is what it is.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7868 - 02/07/2019 20:52:47    2204548

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Replying To Jackeen:  "I wouldn't overestimate the class and sporting integrity of the Dublin posters on here. They are the definition of the Hill16 cliché."
And with that the little credibility you had vanishes."]I'm quite happy with the no credibility off the Dub posters on here, thanks, it's real GAA people's opinion I respect.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1319 - 02/07/2019 20:53:36    2204549

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Replying To Crinigan:  "And with that the little credibility you had vanishes."
I'm quite happy with the no credibility off the Dub posters on here, thanks, it's real GAA people's opinion I respect."]Real GAA people don't post bile like you have. A dead giveaway as to your motifs here.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 02/07/2019 20:58:00    2204554

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Replying To Jackeen:  "Well that's a new one. Must be the J that confused you."
No, just the same bulls*it.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2149 - 02/07/2019 20:58:24    2204555

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Replying To seadog54:  "Joxer?"
Ahaha. Come back to us when you know the posters on here bud. A rookie mistake right there. Some of us have been posting on here for donkeys years, myself and Jackeen included. Not only are we different people, we're not even the same gender.

You do know who Ewan is, right? Oh forget it.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 02/07/2019 21:13:23    2204566

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Replying To legendzxix:  "
Replying To realdub:  "[quote=Jack_Goff:  "Have you been hacked? Very refreshing to read a post from a Dub who can see past his own team. And I agree you'd still win but at least without some of the advantages you have.

realdub:
"How on earth any county could take satisfaction from winning a Dublinless Leinster championship is beyond me. Where's the fun in that? What's to be gained on a National level for the 'boycotting' counties?"

How on earth do you take satisfaction in winning Leinster when you look at all the advantages you have? It's a joke.

I'd love Leinster made of up of actual counties. Not Dublin which is 3 county councils in one. Effectively a province. The crowds would return and you'd start seeing finals where teams other then Dublin would bring 20k+ fans to Croker. It would do wonders for the health of the game outside the capital. But apparently we're not important and don't deserve 18m in finding over the next 10 years."
Yes it's not as much fun as it used to be I'll admit, but that's down to the likes of Kildare and Meath being poor.

County boundaries are what drives this sport. Dublin wont always be this good and let's be honest, the level yourselves and Kildare are at is not our fault."
Dublin has evolved into a province. It is what it is."]If it is what it is then we're a county, and I preferred 'Dublin Region' :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 02/07/2019 21:27:28    2204581

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Replying To baire:  "I don't think a 'boycott' is going to achieve anything. It would only sour things further. Eventually the GAA will have to address it, the same way they had to address the Leinster Hurling Championship. It should be done on an All Ireland basis, root and branch: the club, the county, the provincials, the championship and league structures. To be honest I can't see it happening soon due to vested interests and the conservative nature of those at the top. Dublin and Kerry will always be there or thereabouts but games need to be competitive otherwise ppl will lose interest and turn to some other sport."
Yeah but the whole concept is silly anyway is it not. The Leinster Council is a democratically elected body made up of members from all Leinster counties, or so I believe. It has within it's powers the ability to change or put forward suggestions for change to Central Council, another democratically elected body. To boycott the Leinster and Munster championships would have to be a decision by the county boards undermining the position(s) of these members on the Council(s) presumably. The decisions have to come from the top.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 02/07/2019 21:28:55    2204582

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Replying To jimbodub:  "
Replying To Greenfield:  "[quote=CornAghais91:  "Did your county kick 4 pts in a Leinster Final recently?

Was it someone else's fault?

Then 'Leinster Lite' could be for you.

A competition where you get to choose the opposition and not look so incompetent when kicking wides from everywhere. So to win your very own version of the Delaney Cup, sign up now.

It's the way forward, surely."
A friendly word.

On these message boards it takes a bit of time to build up some credibility so that your musings get read/respected.

If you are not even 20 posts in and are coming up with this drivel then your future here, among other things, doesn't seem too bright.

Another one to be avoided."
Don't mind him

Great start!

;)"];)

CornAghais91 (Dublin) - Posts: 126 - 02/07/2019 21:35:13    2204592

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Replying To Joxer:  "Ahaha. Come back to us when you know the posters on here bud. A rookie mistake right there. Some of us have been posting on here for donkeys years, myself and Jackeen included. Not only are we different people, we're not even the same gender.

You do know who Ewan is, right? Oh forget it."
Rookie mistake bud-when your explaining your losing. However 7000 plus posts is impressive.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2149 - 02/07/2019 21:43:08    2204596

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Replying To legendzxix:  "
Replying To realdub:  "[quote=Jack_Goff:  "Have you been hacked? Very refreshing to read a post from a Dub who can see past his own team. And I agree you'd still win but at least without some of the advantages you have.

realdub:
"How on earth any county could take satisfaction from winning a Dublinless Leinster championship is beyond me. Where's the fun in that? What's to be gained on a National level for the 'boycotting' counties?"

How on earth do you take satisfaction in winning Leinster when you look at all the advantages you have? It's a joke.

I'd love Leinster made of up of actual counties. Not Dublin which is 3 county councils in one. Effectively a province. The crowds would return and you'd start seeing finals where teams other then Dublin would bring 20k+ fans to Croker. It would do wonders for the health of the game outside the capital. But apparently we're not important and don't deserve 18m in finding over the next 10 years."
Yes it's not as much fun as it used to be I'll admit, but that's down to the likes of Kildare and Meath being poor.

County boundaries are what drives this sport. Dublin wont always be this good and let's be honest, the level yourselves and Kildare are at is not our fault."
Dublin has evolved into a province. It is what it is."]You ok, hun? Here for you xx

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 02/07/2019 21:51:12    2204603

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Replying To seadog54:  "Rookie mistake bud-when your explaining your losing. However 7000 plus posts is impressive."
"Rookie mistake bud-when your explaining your losing"
Eh?

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 02/07/2019 22:11:26    2204628

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Replying To Joxer:  "
Replying To Jack_Goff:  "[quote=realdub:  "[quote=Jack_Goff:  "Have you been hacked? Very refreshing to read a post from a Dub who can see past his own team. And I agree you'd still win but at least without some of the advantages you have.

realdub:
"How on earth any county could take satisfaction from winning a Dublinless Leinster championship is beyond me. Where's the fun in that? What's to be gained on a National level for the 'boycotting' counties?"

How on earth do you take satisfaction in winning Leinster when you look at all the advantages you have? It's a joke.

I'd love Leinster made of up of actual counties. Not Dublin which is 3 county councils in one. Effectively a province. The crowds would return and you'd start seeing finals where teams other then Dublin would bring 20k+ fans to Croker. It would do wonders for the health of the game outside the capital. But apparently we're not important and don't deserve 18m in finding over the next 10 years."
Yes it's not as much fun as it used to be I'll admit, but that's down to the likes of Kildare and Meath being poor.

County boundaries are what drives this sport. Dublin wont always be this good and let's be honest, the level yourselves and Kildare are at is not our fault."
I definitely agree it won't always be like this. In 20 years when the full weight of the funding imbalance bears fruit I think you'll be even further ahead of your neighbours. Don't forget the population growth forecasts for the next 50 years are heavily weighted in Dublins favour. If a Leinster county doesn't beat Dublin in the next 15 years I've a feeling they might never be beaten again. Can't wait to tell my grandkids I was there when Dublin did the 10 in a row as they then will be going for 50 or 60. Fun times ahead."]In 20 years!!!! That's an interesting statement. So when Dublin began this run in 2011 was it the result of financial doping in 1991? How long do you think it takes for finances to bear fruit in general? You are crying out for more money for Meath. So what's the blood and iron plan? If Meath get this extra money, and let's face it population is not a problem for Meath as few can afford to live in the capital anyway, how long will it take the Meath CB to convert the do-re-mi into success? You've already got a fantastic centre of excellence, great population pick, decent funding relatively speaking, a great footballing tradition with legends of the game involved in clubs. I mean what more do you need to score more than 4 points at HQ?"]If Meath had the funding to employ an extra 40 development coaches across the county in clubs, primary and secondary schools for both hurling and football every year it would greatly improve both codes in 10 to 15 years.

It would be nice if we'd a decent stadium too because unfortunately Croker wasn't built in Navan.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 02/07/2019 23:16:50    2204678

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Replying To legendzxix:  "In October 2013, the players of Clare, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford threatened to boycott the 2015 Munster Football Championship. They were rightly annoyed with wrong decision to seed Kerry and Cork in opposite semi-finals.

It was about time these counties grew a pair to sort the mess. After extensive meetings, it was rightly agreed that Munster finalists would be seeded to the semi-finals in the following year but could be drawn against each other. Tipperary benefitted from this seeding a few years back. The seeding is now earned on the field of play.

Dublin are guaranteed home advantage in the Leinster final. Why not give the Leinster champions a bye to the semi-finals in the following year? In the case of Dublin, when they are defending champions after a home Leinster final win, why not let their semi-final opponent in the following year have home venue or choice of venue."
For what ? it wouldn't make any difference , the whole system needs to be overhauled .

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/07/2019 23:39:08    2204695

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Replying To offyertrolley:  "Good man Liam. And this Dubs side probably would beat most teams in each of their home venues without ever playing in Croke Park.

But even the mere thought of the Dubs going down to play Kerry in Killarney would be fantastic. The excitement, the novelty, the hint of the unknown - and no guarantee that the Dubs would win based on their last two visits to the Kingdom! It would be fantastic to see the Dubs playing around the country during the summer. It would add so much more colour to the championship. And as you say, it would probably end that particular gripe against them. I don't think any Super 8s matches should be played in Croke Park, bar one home match for the Dubs."
Agreed

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/07/2019 23:44:23    2204697

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