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Boycott Leinster Championship 2020

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Replying To Joxer:  "Leinster Lite. Fantastic. We need a tag line."
Alternatively it could be the Leinster B (for boycott, obviously) games.

CornAghais91 (Dublin) - Posts: 126 - 02/07/2019 11:30:11    2204214

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Kilkenny were not receiving millions in state aid.

The Leinster Hurling Championship had a structure that saw the reigning champions start off in the semi-finals.

Under the current structure, Dublin or any defending Leinster champion should get a bye to the semi-finals.

In the case of Dublin, as all Leinster finals are in Croke Park, simply pass a Leinster motion for Dublin's semi-final opponents to have home advantage on any year that Dublin receive a bye to the semi-finals.

Leinster:
Preliminary Round: 8 teams reduced to 4.
Quarter-finals: 6 teams reduced to 3.
Semi-finals: Defending champions and quarter-final winners reduced to 2."
81 Munster titles ! would you not be better off making proposals to sort out that mess in Munster ?

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/07/2019 11:30:43    2204215

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Why are Dublin supporters even posting on this thread?

This has nothing to do with Dublin GAA or Dublin fans. Ye can focus on playing with yourselves in Croke Park in front of John Horan, Bertie, Costelloe, Bailey and the lads. Do whatever ye want. Who cares.

This thread is about a fair competition for Leinster football counties which will bring back crowds and the players who aren't interested in playing in a rigged competition. What Dublin do is their own business."
Maybe its because you posted the thread on the main page , which the last I heard is open for everyone ! Just guessing like .

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/07/2019 11:34:25    2204217

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Kilkenny were not receiving millions in state aid.

The Leinster Hurling Championship had a structure that saw the reigning champions start off in the semi-finals.

Under the current structure, Dublin or any defending Leinster champion should get a bye to the semi-finals.

In the case of Dublin, as all Leinster finals are in Croke Park, simply pass a Leinster motion for Dublin's semi-final opponents to have home advantage on any year that Dublin receive a bye to the semi-finals.

Leinster:
Preliminary Round: 8 teams reduced to 4.
Quarter-finals: 6 teams reduced to 3.
Semi-finals: Defending champions and quarter-final winners reduced to 2."
How does funding explain so many players on the current and previous panels being so good before the funding started.

They weren't school boys at the time, they had no access to the programs setup with GDF

Do you want me to list them?

You have zero evidence to suggest funding to school children played any part in their progress or the progress of the current side.

Your argument is on par with the same logic behind " Dublin had 1.3 million people to pick from"

You're repeating ignorance. That is all.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 02/07/2019 11:35:16    2204219

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Replying To superbluedub:  "Maybe its because you posted the thread on the main page , which the last I heard is open for everyone ! Just guessing like ."
Don't be getting too intellectual now, like the prominent ex players, lest you confuse people.

CornAghais91 (Dublin) - Posts: 126 - 02/07/2019 11:37:20    2204221

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Replying To Joxer:  "How your hurlers have fallen."
lol.....

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/07/2019 11:40:08    2204223

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Replying To Joxer:  "How your hurlers have fallen."
You can thank your manager and his Galway team mate!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1812 - 02/07/2019 11:46:30    2204228

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Great idea. You take a hammering for the next 10 years by the GAA's financially doped golden boys and we in Leinster can have an enjoyable fair competition for the next decade. We'll see what state Galway county team is in after that. Thank you kind Sir."
Mayo hammered us four years in a row. It happens. We got better. They got a little worse. Now they haven't beaten us in any grade since the famine. Swings in roundabouts. This seems like a very nuclear option. So ya I would be all for Dublin joining Connacht.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 597 - 02/07/2019 11:48:03    2204229

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Replying To superbluedub:  "81 Munster titles ! would you not be better off making proposals to sort out that mess in Munster ?"
There is a difference though that i would acknowledge. Leinster is a football province primarily always has been bar The Cats, Offaly and the Dubs. Though some great progress being made by other counties.

Munster is a hurling province, the Munster Football championship is second priority for most county's in Munster who throw it all into their chances in Hurling. No one is really bothered with football down there attendances are shockingly bad and there is no appetite for a more competitive Munster football championship as it changes a status quo.

Munster is self serving and everyone's happy with it, those who prioritize football can focus on getting a straight forward route to the S8's, those who priortise hurling can get the football out of the way and priortise hurling. Everyone's a winner, with little appetite to change.

I can understand the discontent in Leinster in all honesty, its very different to Munster.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 02/07/2019 11:50:38    2204232

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Profile of an intellectual:

I was a very prominent player in my own county, a team that wore all white. I often used to go missing when it mattered most e.g vs Wicklow, vs Carlow etc. Maybe I was too intellectual. In my last game vs Kerry in 2016 they scored 7 goals against us. How embarrassing!

My county has had unprecedented underage success at all grades in the last number of years, even beating those ghastly Dubs a number of times. The perfect way to develop this talent in the future is....I know, a boycott where they won't need to test themselves against the best.

There is another who agrees with me. He used to be a Longford selector I think. Anyway, I need to think deeply now.

CornAghais91 (Dublin) - Posts: 126 - 02/07/2019 12:00:28    2204236

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Why are Dublin supporters even posting on this thread?

This has nothing to do with Dublin GAA or Dublin fans. Ye can focus on playing with yourselves in Croke Park in front of John Horan, Bertie, Costelloe, Bailey and the lads. Do whatever ye want. Who cares.

This thread is about a fair competition for Leinster football counties which will bring back crowds and the players who aren't interested in playing in a rigged competition. What Dublin do is their own business."
To say that a boycott of the Leinster Championship has nothing to do with Dublin GAA or Dublin fans is ridiculous. Even if your nonsense was correct, people are fully entitled to comment and form opinions on issues that do not directly affect their own counties.

the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 02/07/2019 12:06:50    2204242

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If other counties fans stopped attending croke park for a game against Dublin then change might happen.
If players told their county delegates to Congress to think carefully about what's best for their counties and vote accordingly then change might happen.

Thelonesomegoose (Leitrim) - Posts: 204 - 02/07/2019 12:08:10    2204243

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Replying To CornAghais91:  "Profile of an intellectual:

I was a very prominent player in my own county, a team that wore all white. I often used to go missing when it mattered most e.g vs Wicklow, vs Carlow etc. Maybe I was too intellectual. In my last game vs Kerry in 2016 they scored 7 goals against us. How embarrassing!

My county has had unprecedented underage success at all grades in the last number of years, even beating those ghastly Dubs a number of times. The perfect way to develop this talent in the future is....I know, a boycott where they won't need to test themselves against the best.

There is another who agrees with me. He used to be a Longford selector I think. Anyway, I need to think deeply now."
lol

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 02/07/2019 12:16:07    2204249

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Replying To superbluedub:  "81 Munster titles ! would you not be better off making proposals to sort out that mess in Munster ?"
Munster finalists earn a bye to the semi-finals in the following year. They can still be drawn against each other in the semi-finals despite that.

Kerry won this year's Munster Championship without any game in Kerry.

When did Dublin last win a Leinster title without a game in Dublin? When did Dublin last win an All-Ireland before state aid intervention?

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7869 - 02/07/2019 12:30:48    2204252

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What makes me laugh is within the hierarchy of the GAA, Dublin are treated as the 5th Province, There are 5 Provincial Coaching and Games managers employed by the GAA, 1 for Leinster, Munster, Ulster, Connaught and Dublin. People involved in the GAA are now educated in equality and fairness and see the huge imbalance that is Dublin GAA, every concession that each province get Dublin get and yes they have their house in order but when you think of the small number of co. teams they must look after compared to the provinces its a joke. They wont field a junior team,why not? They should be giving players from their inter and junior grades a chance of wearing the county jersey but they wont, just in case an overweight player might blight the chance for another corporate sponsor. All moves coldly calculated for elitism.

Chubby (Louth) - Posts: 102 - 02/07/2019 12:32:15    2204253

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "I think no Dubs game should be in Croke Park before Leinster Final. I think Dubs should only have one home game in super 8s. If the GAA can't see the chasm they are facilitating then maybe a boycott possibly IS a good idea.

We are good enough to beat anyone, anywhere.
We would beat Meath in Navan, Kildare in Newbridge. We would beat Kerry in Killarney or Donegal in Ballybofey.

Get the Dubs out of Croker bar the biggest games.

Level the field. Kill the excuses"
Remove all funding from Dublin GAA for 20 years, distribute it fairly to those most in need, implement positive discrimination, promote the amateur nature of the GAA not the corporate. Dublin will still be tops in football but the gap won't be as noticeable.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1812 - 02/07/2019 12:42:05    2204255

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I know I have thrown this idea out before on other forum posts but would it help to move Dublin out of Leinster, say to Munster? I know Kerry and Cork probably wouldn't be too happy. It would be good for the other Leinster teams to have something to play for, also there is nothing in for Dublin winning Leinster titles is there?

Not sure what the right answer is but something needs to be done with the football championship. Every idea is shot down including the tier 2 championship - but surely we can't continue as it is can we? Teams need to have something to play for.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 02/07/2019 12:45:42    2204256

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Replying To baire:  "You can thank your manager and his Galway team mate!"
We certainly did. Thanks for the gift. More advantages I suppose.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 02/07/2019 12:59:09    2204264

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Replying To CornAghais91:  "Alternatively it could be the Leinster B (for boycott, obviously) games."
Leinster Lite. "High on whinge, low on skill" perhaps.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 02/07/2019 13:01:24    2204267

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "I know I have thrown this idea out before on other forum posts but would it help to move Dublin out of Leinster, say to Munster? I know Kerry and Cork probably wouldn't be too happy. It would be good for the other Leinster teams to have something to play for, also there is nothing in for Dublin winning Leinster titles is there?

Not sure what the right answer is but something needs to be done with the football championship. Every idea is shot down including the tier 2 championship - but surely we can't continue as it is can we? Teams need to have something to play for."
Would you not just move Dublin into the Railway Cup. The Irish word for province means a fifth. Dublin is essentially a province in modern Ireland. Vienna is 1 of 9 provinces in Austria. The recent European election had a Dublin constituency, North & West constituency and a South constituency. It's a reflection of current day Ireland.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7869 - 02/07/2019 13:01:36    2204268

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