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The Handpassed Goal

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looks about as skilful and elegant as the handpassed goal in hurling did back in the day.
i would ban handpassed scores full stop

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 29/06/2019 19:53:26    2202490

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Replying To perfect10:  "looks about as skilful and elegant as the handpassed goal in hurling did back in the day.
i would ban handpassed scores full stop"
Joe Sheridan might beg to differ.......

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 920 - 29/06/2019 21:14:09    2202529

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Apart from a brilliant goal punched in many years ago from Paul Clarke I would agree 100%.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1915 - 29/06/2019 21:21:34    2202536

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Agreed. Hand passing should be closed fist also.. Some of the 'hand passes' we see are almost throws.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 29/06/2019 22:51:38    2202611

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I can't stand the two handed flap into an empty net... what footballing skill does this promote? At very minimum I think a goal should either be a kicked finish or the deflection of a kicked pass by hand or fist. If a player finds himself facing an empty net as a result of a pass that wasn't kicked they should at least be compelled to gather the ball and hoof it in for the goal to be legal.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 29/06/2019 23:52:37    2202639

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Graham geraghty goal v Tyrone? One of the best goals of all time and he flicked it over keeper

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 30/06/2019 08:15:24    2202686

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The punched or flicked goal from a long ball in is a thing of beauty imo. 2 Dublin ones stand out for me, Paul Clarke against Meath in 95 and Paul Mannion v Kerry in 13.

These goals really add to an attack as they add an extra way to score a goal from a long ball, meaning defenders and keepers have another thing to think of.

However the palmed goal after a handpass after the goal is a little disappointing, think Niall Scully's goal in last year's final. I don't think the game would lose much in banning them.

And get rid of the handpass point too while we're at it!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 30/06/2019 08:28:21    2202689

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A lot of good examples mentioned here already....

Don't forget Bernard Brogan first half goal vs. Mayo in the '13 final.

CornAghais91 (Dublin) - Posts: 126 - 30/06/2019 10:31:36    2202740

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Yes hand pass scores are too easy

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 30/06/2019 14:24:06    2202881

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I was never fan of it myself, scores should only scored by foot

PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 30/06/2019 17:38:24    2202997

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No problem with hand pass goal but it's not implemented correctly, like was Armagh goal last night palmed to the net or thrown in?

Douglas_44 (Roscommon) - Posts: 225 - 30/06/2019 19:19:36    2203071

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Replying To Pericles:  "I can't stand the two handed flap into an empty net... what footballing skill does this promote? At very minimum I think a goal should either be a kicked finish or the deflection of a kicked pass by hand or fist. If a player finds himself facing an empty net as a result of a pass that wasn't kicked they should at least be compelled to gather the ball and hoof it in for the goal to be legal."
no. you should be able to hit it in with part of your anatomy. Although I agree with those who complain about the volleyball style twohanded-half-catch/half-slap type of connection . why on earth cant players just meet it with the fist. I certainly dont think players should have to gather the ball in to their possesion and kick it in. this usually gives defenders/goalie time to get back and block the shot. 2 of our players were guilty on both counts in the Ulster final. One with a slapped goal and the other who caught the ball in front of an empty net, was closed down and kicked it wide. Just fist the blooming thing.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 30/06/2019 21:25:40    2203134

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Don't have much of an issue with goals or points that are finished with the hand as long as it's done legally. As a previous poster pointed out some of the palms into the net are borderline throws because it looks as if they have been caught then released at times. It's up to match officials to look out for this. I do feel if a team manages to work a 2 on one with the goalkeeper then they should be allowed to slip a hand pass and palm it into an empty net and if they are 3 points up heading into injury time the attacking player should have the right to fist the ball over the bar to make it a 4 point game. A lot of fuss being made of this recently which I don't really understand to be honest. A team that attacks and works the ball into these scoring positions should be allowed to finish off the moves as they see fit and there shouldn't be any restrictions put in place.

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 01/07/2019 11:29:33    2203422

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Don't understand the issue with these myself as long as the officials correctly enforce the rules. Been a lot of talk about the fisted point as well for some reason, it's a staple of corner forward play to take your man on like that and getting a point from a narrow angle.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 01/07/2019 12:02:16    2203457

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Don't see why people dislike the fisted point or goals so much, gaelic football involves using both your hands and your feet. I don't see how it detracts from the aesthetics of the game personally.

The only reason we can't handpass the ball into the net now is that Congress decided it was the way to stop Kerry winning All-Irelands back in the 1980s.

Incidentally, you can still handpass the ball into the net in camogie, saw it in a game last year.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 01/07/2019 12:16:48    2203465

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Damien Comer got an outstanding fisted goal against Dublin last year. Rian O'Neill's goal against Mayo looked bad though. He took so much care that it looked like he caught it for a split second before throwing it in to the net. For these type of goals I'd like to limit them to closed fist or even single hand. The 2 handed push is no great skill. I say that while understanding that the skill is in getting the ball to that position in the first place not the just the flick to the net.

On hand passed points, an attempt to limit to closed fist to make them a little more difficult a few years ago proved too difficult to referee.

tomhealycork (Cork) - Posts: 80 - 01/07/2019 12:19:12    2203466

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Graham geraghty goal v Tyrone? One of the best goals of all time and he flicked it over keeper"
That was a great goal. The height he got into that deft flick to get it over the goalie.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 01/07/2019 12:28:21    2203475

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I headed a point once in a nothing challenge game, ref said its against the rules and disallowed it!

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 01/07/2019 12:38:45    2203487

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Nothing wrong with a fisted goal. Its the 2 handed voley ball style pass to the net thats awfull to look at.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 01/07/2019 17:17:20    2203756

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Tomsmith Cavan here

What about the headed Goal that a fellow called Breslin scored for Dublin many years ago in a high profile game in Croke Park

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3861 - 01/07/2019 17:42:05    2203779

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