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Leinster SHC Final Wexford V Kilkenny

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Leinster is a hurling province now. But the GAA would be wise to learn from their mistakes. They need to start redirecting some of dublin's hurling funds towards the other leinster counties. Given their population, the funding and the number of kids playing hurling now they'll dominate leinster hurling eventually too. So enjoy the leinster championship while we still can."
Can't see that happening Jack, I would be of the opinion that anyone can play football once you're strong, athletic and able to run up and down a pitch for 70+ mins. However hurling is a much more natural skilful game, and all of the money in the world is not going to just turn young lads into natural hurlers, so while Dublin may get stronger in the years to come, there is not a hope that they will ever dominate the hurling scene like their footballers do. Hurling is a much more level playing field now, yes it's somewhat sad that so few counties play it, but now we have the scenario that any of the top eight sides could win it in any given year, whereas Gaelic football is just a one sided farce.

gilly1910 (Galway) - Posts: 38 - 24/06/2019 11:41:51    2199774

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Wexford v Kilkenny in Cork if it's a draw. That's the word on the street. Thurles is too near to Kilkenny and its seen as an unfair advantage.
Regarding the Munster final. The big factor is Limerick being at home. In a match of that magnitude the support will be a factor. If Tipperary get a good start then they ll be hard to reel in. They can keep sniping scores for the 70. However if Limerick get a good run on Tipperary it ll be very hard for them to come back at Limerick. All set up to be a great game and I think it ll renew the appeal of the Munster Final again"
replay will be in thurles as gaa got scalded on cork last year when wexford all but boycott the game

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3432 - 24/06/2019 12:00:45    2199794

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Replying To gilly1910:  "Can't see that happening Jack, I would be of the opinion that anyone can play football once you're strong, athletic and able to run up and down a pitch for 70+ mins. However hurling is a much more natural skilful game, and all of the money in the world is not going to just turn young lads into natural hurlers, so while Dublin may get stronger in the years to come, there is not a hope that they will ever dominate the hurling scene like their footballers do. Hurling is a much more level playing field now, yes it's somewhat sad that so few counties play it, but now we have the scenario that any of the top eight sides could win it in any given year, whereas Gaelic football is just a one sided farce."
I'd share that sentiment to be honest. Dublin have had some good hurling teams in the last 12/13 years but the traditional counties tend to produce gifted natural hurlers. E. G. Rorry ó Connor, Tony Kelly, cian lynch etc. All the top counties have at least one. Even in bad times. I think Dublin have lacked this. Thier best hurler is Keaney in my opinion, who's around before the big money.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 1680 - 24/06/2019 12:32:10    2199827

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I'd share that sentiment to be honest. Dublin have had some good hurling teams in the last 12/13 years but the traditional counties tend to produce gifted natural hurlers. E. G. Rorry ó Connor, Tony Kelly, cian lynch etc. All the top counties have at least one. Even in bad times. I think Dublin have lacked this. Thier best hurler is Keaney in my opinion, who's around before the big money."
I think Keaney will be found wanting in either Thurles or Croker. He did damage against Galway but he got away with a lot of fouling. Sutcliffe is their most skilful and natural hurler.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 721 - 24/06/2019 12:40:20    2199836

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I'd share that sentiment to be honest. Dublin have had some good hurling teams in the last 12/13 years but the traditional counties tend to produce gifted natural hurlers. E. G. Rorry ó Connor, Tony Kelly, cian lynch etc. All the top counties have at least one. Even in bad times. I think Dublin have lacked this. Thier best hurler is Keaney in my opinion, who's around before the big money."
Chris Crummy is as good a hurler as anybody out there at the moment, a quality player.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 687 - 24/06/2019 13:08:10    2199867

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Replying To Yellow:  "How are ye all getting on with tickets???

Ticketmaster and tickets.ie only have rubbish

Any other place to get them?"
Upper Cusack on sale now from tickets.ie and gaa.ie/tickets.

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Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2785 - 24/06/2019 13:08:17    2199868

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I'd share that sentiment to be honest. Dublin have had some good hurling teams in the last 12/13 years but the traditional counties tend to produce gifted natural hurlers. E. G. Rorry ó Connor, Tony Kelly, cian lynch etc. All the top counties have at least one. Even in bad times. I think Dublin have lacked this. Thier best hurler is Keaney in my opinion, who's around before the big money."
Ah yes but with money you can get properly trained coaches at national school level and get young lads in Laois Westmeath Carlow Meath etc the opportunity to hurl and have access to proper coaching at a younger age. And some of these lads might be "natural hurlers"......

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 756 - 24/06/2019 13:15:52    2199878

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Upper Cusack on sale now from tickets.ie and gaa.ie/tickets.

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Just note when you click the link above football is selected. Click on hurling and the Wexford match shows up.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2785 - 24/06/2019 13:19:02    2199880

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Replying To Viking66:  "Ah yes but with money you can get properly trained coaches at national school level and get young lads in Laois Westmeath Carlow Meath etc the opportunity to hurl and have access to proper coaching at a younger age. And some of these lads might be "natural hurlers"......"
Check out "Hurling365" happening in primary schools all across Wexford, kids come in an hour early one day a week to hurl before school starts runs through out the school year, all voluntary, this is separate to the County coaches who visit the schools one day a week and the clubs training sessions (most clubs have two sessions a week), so potentially any children in Wexford interested in hurling getting up to four hurling sessions a week.

As a reward Hurling365 present the school with a flag after running the scheme for a year.

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 103 - 24/06/2019 16:17:41    2200024

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Replying To Bon:  "Chris Crummy is as good a hurler as anybody out there at the moment, a quality player."
He is a good player, as are Danny Sutcliffe and Liam rushe, but I'd argue that they are behind the best for stick work and hurling "cuteness" for want 9f a better phrase

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 1680 - 24/06/2019 18:33:40    2200139

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Wexford v Kilkenny in Cork if it's a draw. That's the word on the street. Thurles is too near to Kilkenny and its seen as an unfair advantage.
Regarding the Munster final. The big factor is Limerick being at home. In a match of that magnitude the support will be a factor. If Tipperary get a good start then they ll be hard to reel in. They can keep sniping scores for the 70. However if Limerick get a good run on Tipperary it ll be very hard for them to come back at Limerick. All set up to be a great game and I think it ll renew the appeal of the Munster Final again"
Surely Wexford fans would rather go to Thurles than Cork?! (Plus Kilkenny is closer to Cork and all!)

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1046 - 24/06/2019 19:27:44    2200176

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Wexford v Kilkenny in Cork if it's a draw. That's the word on the street. Thurles is too near to Kilkenny and its seen as an unfair advantage.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1064 - 24/06/2019 09:54:34 2199659


I don't know what streets you frequent; but I reckon if you were to ask anyone on the streets of Wexford. where they would rather play a hurling match against Kilkenny - Semple Stadium or Páirc Uí Chaoimh - the answer would be overwhelming for the former.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 710 - 24/06/2019 20:19:12    2200228

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Replying To ballydalane:  "Surely Wexford fans would rather go to Thurles than Cork?! (Plus Kilkenny is closer to Cork and all!)"
No way. Thurles is a graveyard for wexford hurling

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 1680 - 24/06/2019 21:00:21    2200268

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Wexford v Kilkenny in Cork if it's a draw. That's the word on the street. Thurles is too near to Kilkenny and its seen as an unfair advantage.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1064 - 24/06/2019 09:54:34 2199659


I don't know what streets you frequent; but I reckon if you were to ask anyone on the streets of Wexford. where they would rather play a hurling match against Kilkenny - Semple Stadium or Páirc Uí Chaoimh - the answer would be overwhelming for the former."
i absolutely agree,i dont get to many matches but i know one thing,i will never go to a wexford match in pairc ui chaoimh.
give me thurles any day of the week.at least the place is fairly accessible and not a torturous place to get to

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3432 - 24/06/2019 22:12:30    2200335

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "No way. Thurles is a graveyard for wexford hurling"
Unlike Cork?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 710 - 24/06/2019 22:52:27    2200360

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Replying To WEX98:  "Check out "Hurling365" happening in primary schools all across Wexford, kids come in an hour early one day a week to hurl before school starts runs through out the school year, all voluntary, this is separate to the County coaches who visit the schools one day a week and the clubs training sessions (most clubs have two sessions a week), so potentially any children in Wexford interested in hurling getting up to four hurling sessions a week.

As a reward Hurling365 present the school with a flag after running the scheme for a year."
Great initiative. Wexford have put alot of work into this and other opportunities for young lads to take up hurling. My eldest 2 are at primary school hopefully theyll get an interest out of it too! Point I was making is that in counties with a base of smaller hurling numbers theres going to be less volunteers available so perhaps lads could be paid to promote the sport in these counties where there are no hurling/dual clubs in a particular area. By running training sessions in schools or football only clubs. Plant seeds in new fields.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 756 - 24/06/2019 23:15:01    2200367

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "No way. Thurles is a graveyard for wexford hurling"
Corks not exactly been a happy hunting ground for us either! Id nearly rather it was in Nowlan Park once we got 3/4s of the tickets!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 756 - 24/06/2019 23:18:17    2200371

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Wexford vs Kilkenny replay in Thurles would draw a big crowd and I doubt the players would complain."
Not the point. A Leinster final should be in Leinster, end of. Munster wouldent tolerate a Munster final in Leinster under any circumstances. John Horan said last year that this would not happen again. Its disrespectful to Leinster hurling in general, but money talks.
Lets hope its not a draw and Horan doesnt have to eat his words.

bobkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 17 - 25/06/2019 11:29:06    2200518

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Replying To perfect10:  "replay will be in thurles as gaa got scalded on cork last year when wexford all but boycott the game"
The Leinster hurling final replay in Cork, well that would put the tin hat on it, and would end my attendance at all future Gaa games.

bobkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 17 - 25/06/2019 11:35:24    2200521

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Replying To bobkat:  "The Leinster hurling final replay in Cork, well that would put the tin hat on it, and would end my attendance at all future Gaa games."
I agree it should be in Leinster bobkat. But where? Portlaoise or Tullamore not really handy either......as a province we are fairly poorly equipped to deal with croke park actually not prioritising the playing of gaelic games any more......

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 756 - 25/06/2019 12:09:20    2200542

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