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Meath V Dublin Leinster Final.

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "If Meath were to pull it off and beat us on Sunday, in a ferocious, fierce, filthy war, 3 men sent off and blood and guts on the floor and on the Hill.....honestly, I really think a tiny part of me would have a smirk to myself and think........"Oh it's back" !!"
absolutely no way id have a smile on my face if we were beaten

now if all what you said happened and the game ended in a draw, maybe then id have a smirk on my face

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 1802 - 20/06/2019 14:55:05    2197996

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Meath getting a spanking, aren't they ..
This media/fan hype that has been created will add a bit of pressure on the team to perform..
could be a year too soon.

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 200 - 20/06/2019 14:56:26    2197998

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "If Meath were to pull it off and beat us on Sunday, in a ferocious, fierce, filthy war, 3 men sent off and blood and guts on the floor and on the Hill.....honestly, I really think a tiny part of me would have a smirk to myself and think........"Oh it's back" !!"
Maybe next year but we're on a 5 in a row mission this year we're playing for history nothing can derail that.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 20/06/2019 14:59:44    2198001

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Replying To royaldunne:  "
Replying To Whyalwaysmeath:  "[quote=ConnollyDub:  "[quote=Jack_Goff:  "link

20,000 tickets sold by Tuesday and at best they expect 45,000 to be in attendance. Still only tickets for the lower tiers and hill 16 isn't sold out. This may seem bad now but it Meath get a hiding and Dublin do the 5 in a row things will be far worse next year."
by god will you ever give it a rest"
Agreed! Couldn't give a rats if there are 100 people at it! I'll be there, I'll enjoy it and I'll have a few pints with my Dublin mates after it, can't wait!"]It's tiresome at this stage.
Jack I admire your single mindedness of splitting Dublin in two. Go for it, but it won't happen this year. (Personally I don't think it ever will happen) you have said you not going to match so the gaa will change its mind if less people turn up. The fact is the Leinster council will look at the bottom line, and the bottom line is that if only 40k show up its still a bigger attendance than last year. So you effectively peeing against the wind.
If 50 people turn up I don't care. And anyone who is there won't care. Take up your grievances with Leinster council."]All relative. Meath in the final this year instead of Laois. The biggest Derby fixture in Leinster. And in a year which meath got promoted so hopes are obviously high.

I do agree I've gone on about this too much and will try to stop. Hope you all enjoy the game. I'll be back for the post mortem next week.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2900 - 20/06/2019 15:00:59    2198002

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "Predict Meath will play well
Dubs up by 2 at half time and a decent game in prospect in the second half
Meath to still be level with 20 mins to go but Dubs to empty the bench and kick on to win by 8-10 points

Meath are a very decent side
Div 1 next year and worthy of respect. I think we will win, I would be very confident, but I expect a damn good show from Meath, and I am openly admitting I would LOVE it if the game was close with a few mins to go and we had a real game again.
Nothing stirs the soul of those of us 35+ who remember what this game is, or perhaps, was. Nothing.

if I was a meath man i would expect and accept nothing less than 70 minutes of passion and edge, hit the Dubs, hit them hard, let them know you are not going to be toyed with. Annoy them, rile up the Hill, channel you inner McEntee and Hayes

Not for the faint hearted, Dublin and Meath

As My boy Moloko once wrote....BRING IT BACK!

(PS - Up the Dubs!)"
Good man Liam, this fixture certainly used to be the highlight of the Gaa calendar for both counties for many years barring an All-Ireland final I suppose.

Obviously in recent years the rivalry has fallen dormant, and maybe doesn't mean as much to younger fans who never witnessed the intense, legendary battles of the 80s, 90s and to a lesser extent early 00s. Even to fans who did witness the battles such as yourself and myself (I was born in the late 80s so I only remember the 90s and early 00s), a lot of the spice has been lost give the gap between the two teams today.

But I have to admit, deep down the rivalry still means a hell of a lot to me. When I see the blue jersey up against our lads, I want a win more than anything.

As for the game this weekend, I'm not going to make any bold predictions and I'm not waving the white flag in advance either. Our lads need to focus on performing their absolute best for the full 70+mins and see where that takes them.

I would like to see us having a go though, I think trying to contain Dublin is utterly futile. If we are to pull off the impossible then we'll need goals and plenty of them.

So long story short, here's to another 5 past Cluxton :-) enjoy the game Liamo

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8275 - 20/06/2019 15:46:21    2198018

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Replying To cavanman47:  "when did Meath win Division 2?"
In April, remember we got promoted and you got RELEGATED :).

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16073 - 20/06/2019 15:50:58    2198020

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Replying To the_walls:  "Wow!

You topped the table, that is undoubted. The rules of the competition are that the top two qualify for the final and the winners of that game are the overall winners. This is basic, basic stuff. I suppose in your mind Mayo aren't league champions either, considering Kerry topped the table? Jesus wept."
Yes Kerry won the league in division one they didn't win the play off. What's so hard to understand??

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16073 - 20/06/2019 15:53:54    2198021

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "
Replying To royaldunne:  "[quote=Whyalwaysmeath:  "[quote=ConnollyDub:  "[quote=Jack_Goff:  "link

20,000 tickets sold by Tuesday and at best they expect 45,000 to be in attendance. Still only tickets for the lower tiers and hill 16 isn't sold out. This may seem bad now but it Meath get a hiding and Dublin do the 5 in a row things will be far worse next year."
by god will you ever give it a rest"
Agreed! Couldn't give a rats if there are 100 people at it! I'll be there, I'll enjoy it and I'll have a few pints with my Dublin mates after it, can't wait!"]It's tiresome at this stage.
Jack I admire your single mindedness of splitting Dublin in two. Go for it, but it won't happen this year. (Personally I don't think it ever will happen) you have said you not going to match so the gaa will change its mind if less people turn up. The fact is the Leinster council will look at the bottom line, and the bottom line is that if only 40k show up its still a bigger attendance than last year. So you effectively peeing against the wind.
If 50 people turn up I don't care. And anyone who is there won't care. Take up your grievances with Leinster council."]All relative. Meath in the final this year instead of Laois. The biggest Derby fixture in Leinster. And in a year which meath got promoted so hopes are obviously high.

I do agree I've gone on about this too much and will try to stop. Hope you all enjoy the game. I'll be back for the post mortem next week."]Jack your not a bad lad.
If I can impart one bit of advice to you, I've been going to games since mid 70s I've seen some of the greats
Go to the game, forget about all the advantages dubs have. Go enjoy it. There's many a fan who would rip your hand off for a chance to be there.
All the best.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16073 - 20/06/2019 16:00:15    2198023

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My one early memory of Dublin v Meath was the last game in '91 Colm Coyle was marking Niall Guiden , honestly what Coyle did to him the whole second half if you did today you'd be locked up for life , he basically assaulted him the whole half and got away with it , it was brutal stuff.

I hated them Meath players but kind of liked them respected them especially Mick Lyons and Harnan who was an animal but I hated Colm Coyle couldn't stand the man.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 20/06/2019 16:07:54    2198026

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Replying To Htaem:  "You're having a go at royaldunne, yet you're biting every single time walls, just sayin lad ;-)"
'Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I think a lot on here (& I'm probably one of them) need to heed this wise old statement more often.'

KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 582 - 20/06/2019 16:09:41    2198029

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Hteam, your only a babbie!!

I was born in 79
Raised on Joe Mc swinging on the cross bar after vinny's goal in 89
barr's peno miss in 91
Foleys goal, geraghtys goal, barr's goal
Clarkes fist, sheedys jump in his slacks.....
Giles, Coyle, No neck Dowd, Murphy...Olly fuppin Murphy

This means more

Still

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8144 - 20/06/2019 16:17:33    2198032

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Good post a chara.

Game management is going to be key as are energy levels. Dublin are going to work you across every line.

Dublin have many gears. They will size up the system early doors. Meath may go ahead in the first 15. They will then bite and bring the score either level or go ahead running up to half time. They will then or just before depending on the context try to get you to empty the tank. They will sit in front of you defensive system for a large amount of the second and third quarter and try to make you chase shadows, moving the ball around and holding possession and get you to expend as much energy as possible. Before turning on the after burners and or emptying the bench in the last quarter.

If Meath can hold Dublin and counter each of these phases, while also having a lead they have a terrific chance. Its sounds obvious, but its proven really difficult for other teams to do.

Wides just arent an option for Meath unless they can get a few goals, but even then more then three wides is a killer, each one is a nail in the coffin, unless we have a horrific day with wides ourselves which are rare."
Ah yeah Dublin have shown they can win games in loads of different ways, nothing seems to phase them and no structure seems to phase them. As you said, the strategy to beat them seems obvious but many have tried and failed. It will happen some day, it will need to countered perfectly and majority of chances converted. Will it happen on Sunday, head says no but sure isn't hope a great thing!

If Meath manage the game well then i don't think it'll be the 15 point margin that alot seem to think it will be. I'd like to think that they will have learned a fair bit about game management from the league final. Had we been a bit more savvy then we could have won. Donegal went ahead and slowed it all down. When we were ahead we kept going all out attack instead of slowing it down and disrupting any Donegal momentum.

Anyway looking forward to it, Meath have made huge strides, much more to be done and how we get on Sunday will let us know exactly how much more that is.

Whyalwaysmeath (Meath) - Posts: 23 - 20/06/2019 16:28:15    2198035

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "If Meath were to pull it off and beat us on Sunday, in a ferocious, fierce, filthy war, 3 men sent off and blood and guts on the floor and on the Hill.....honestly, I really think a tiny part of me would have a smirk to myself and think........"Oh it's back" !!"
Amen to that, wouldnt it be just great to have the old fire back? Its been missed.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 186 - 20/06/2019 16:28:58    2198036

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Allianz Football League Roinn 2

Pos Team P W D L F A Pts
1 Meath 7 6 0 1 111 84 12
2 Donegal 7 5 0 2 112 94 10
3 Fermanagh 7 3 2 2 69 74 8
4 Kildare 7 3 1 3 87 93 7
5 Armagh 7 2 2 3 101 97 6
6 Clare 7 2 1 4 107 113 5
7 Cork 7 2 1 4 91 112 5
8 Tipperary 7 1 1 5 99 110 3

I see basic knowledge of the league escapes you.
Now my eyesight maybe waning but if anyone else can tell me does that not say Meath topped division two therefore winning the league part. They did not win the play off. But the won the league."
Don't understand the format.

Start again

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 790 - 20/06/2019 16:34:28    2198038

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Replying To royaldunne:  "In April, remember we got promoted and you got RELEGATED :)."
But but but . . .we didn't get relegated, we finished 8th on the 32 team league table you see. . .and we'll play against the Connacht champions next year and Armagh who had McGeaney and McOnville playing with them recently and won the All-Ireland in 2002 beating Kerry. . .and we're Ulster champions after going 3 matches unbeaten and our play-off against Donegal on Sunday is meaningless because everyone knows we're ulster champions.

What's so hard to understand?

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3620 - 20/06/2019 16:36:32    2198040

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "Hteam, your only a babbie!!

I was born in 79
Raised on Joe Mc swinging on the cross bar after vinny's goal in 89
barr's peno miss in 91
Foleys goal, geraghtys goal, barr's goal
Clarkes fist, sheedys jump in his slacks.....
Giles, Coyle, No neck Dowd, Murphy...Olly fuppin Murphy

This means more

Still"
You'd missed them all the same The Royals they've been gone too long.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 20/06/2019 16:48:47    2198045

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Replying To Whyalwaysmeath:  "Ah yeah Dublin have shown they can win games in loads of different ways, nothing seems to phase them and no structure seems to phase them. As you said, the strategy to beat them seems obvious but many have tried and failed. It will happen some day, it will need to countered perfectly and majority of chances converted. Will it happen on Sunday, head says no but sure isn't hope a great thing!

If Meath manage the game well then i don't think it'll be the 15 point margin that alot seem to think it will be. I'd like to think that they will have learned a fair bit about game management from the league final. Had we been a bit more savvy then we could have won. Donegal went ahead and slowed it all down. When we were ahead we kept going all out attack instead of slowing it down and disrupting any Donegal momentum.

Anyway looking forward to it, Meath have made huge strides, much more to be done and how we get on Sunday will let us know exactly how much more that is."
Great post, i think your bang on the money.

I think if Meath can manage the game better and show they learned by what happened against Donegal, regardless of the result they will be progressing.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 2914 - 20/06/2019 17:20:49    2198055

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "You'd missed them all the same The Royals they've been gone too long."
Born in '94. Raised on the past. I remember being in junior infants when the Sam Maguire was brought into my school by the Meath team in 1999. We owe it to ourselves in Meath to stand up and give Sunday a right go and keep building and building. People of my age and younger understand the rivalry and what it used to mean and amazingly we're as zealous as the older generation (not trying to call you old lads!). Its almost like this rivalry is built into us on some level. The sight of the blue jersey just brings on adrenaline. I barely remember 2001's game but remember the incredible buzz in all Meath and Dublin matches of that era; 70,000 at Leinster semi-finals and finals etc. Every game a battle. The streets around Croke Park thronged with colour and atmosphere. Maybe I'm wearing rose tinted glasses. Its a crying shame the state the Leinster championship is in... thinking back to those days is almost like a trip down uncanny valley. Such a shame. Just imagine if this game had even 60-70% of the fire of the old battles, it'd be a sight for very sore eyes.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 186 - 20/06/2019 18:00:50    2198063

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "Hteam, your only a babbie!!

I was born in 79
Raised on Joe Mc swinging on the cross bar after vinny's goal in 89
barr's peno miss in 91
Foleys goal, geraghtys goal, barr's goal
Clarkes fist, sheedys jump in his slacks.....
Giles, Coyle, No neck Dowd, Murphy...Olly fuppin Murphy

This means more

Still"
You're only a child yourself. The Meath team of 87 was one of the finest to ever come out of Leinster. A tasty FF line of O'Rourke, Stafford and Flynn. A sprinkling of hard men like Foley, Lyons, Coyle and a sprinkling of good athletes as well. Tough games back then with no quarter given. That Leinster Final of 87 was some game but Stafford was the man that year, untouchable. The great Gerry Hargan had his hands full with those lads.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4033 - 20/06/2019 18:11:22    2198065

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Don't understand the format.

Start again"
Obviously you don't. And I couldn't be asked explaining it to you. Google it.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16073 - 20/06/2019 18:12:57    2198066

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