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Kerry V Offaly (Hurling)

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Replying To legendzxix: "Well done to the Kerry hurlers. Great to remain at the McDonagh Cup level. Kerry 14th in the league and 14th in the championship this year. Commiserations to Offaly. As I've mentioned in another thread, one province should have a 6th team and the McDonagh Cup should have a 6th team as well. It's up to Carlow, McDonagh counties and Ring counties to bring a motion to bring about that change. Is mise le meas, The Legend." Congratulations to Kerry on today's win. I listened on local radio, and 2 incidents stand out from the commentary in retrospect. Sending off of Peter Geraghty Penalty miss by Shane Dooley. That does not take from Kerry, who used the extra man well, and won the game. Where do Offaly go from here? There will be a lot of talk and debate, but we need to take a look at the whole picture, and put some structure together for the improvement of hurling at all levels. We are where we are now, and have to deal with the immediate challenges for 2020.I wonder if some of our long serving players will commit to the jersey next year. They have given great service over the years, to Offaly. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1745 - 15/06/2019 17:24:55 2195307 Link
Nothing against Kerry but really hoped Offaly would win today. Very sad to see. It will be a long road back. KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 15/06/2019 17:29:59 2195309 Link
I wonder will the GAA try to rearrange some of the hurling tiers again now that Offaly have got relegated? In recent years, it seemed like they were trying every format to ensure they did not go to the Ring Cup as they got worse and worse, so maybe they will still make sure that doesn't happen by hook or by crook. eoghan6688 (Galway) - Posts: 154 - 15/06/2019 17:59:47 2195322 Link
Hard to believe how far Offaly have fallen. I never would have believed it. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2127 - 15/06/2019 18:08:00 2195327 Link
Replying To eoghan6688: "I wonder will the GAA try to rearrange some of the hurling tiers again now that Offaly have got relegated? In recent years, it seemed like they were trying every format to ensure they did not go to the Ring Cup as they got worse and worse, so maybe they will still make sure that doesn't happen by hook or by crook." There's a valid argument at this time though for a small realignment of the competition boundaries. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7869 - 15/06/2019 18:11:27 2195329 Link
Very sad to see offaly where they are . Produced some of the finest hurlers I ever seen , they were an inspiration to all us small counties. Hope they can re group in the Christy Ring cup and start on an upward curve again. green.and.gold (Leitrim) - Posts: 427 - 15/06/2019 18:25:17 2195333 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Disgraceful is a bit strong. Carlow, Laois, Westmeath, Antrim, Offaly, Kerry, Meath, Derry, Down, Roscommon, Wicklow, Kildare and London have to lobby for the change. Two groups of 5 needs to be brought as a motion by these counties: - The group winners can enter the preliminary quarter-finals against provincial 3rd placed teams. - 2nd and 3rd can enter McDonagh Cup quarter-finals. 2nd placed teams given home advantage. - Group winners can be given home advantage in the semi-finals. It takes a bit of joined up thinking my the affected counties to bring about change." That good dea .....this is type of thinking we need as part of the new fixtures committee......all those teams are serious about progressing and need help PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 15/06/2019 18:27:40 2195335 Link
Replying To The Real 1944: "The McDonagh Cup is fine as it is. A really competitive championship between 5 fairly evenly matched sides. Making it a 10 team cup would be crazy. There is a big gap between the likes of Westmeath/Laois etc and the likes of Roscommon/Derry/London etc. The current 1 up/1 down between the All Ireland sides to McDonagh Cup is fine, and same with the Christy Ring. Only change worth making would be the bring in a play off between bottom in Munster and Leinster for relegation to McDonagh. This year is would be Waterford v Carlow, which more than likely Waterford would win, but Carlow should still have the chance of giving it a go. The McDonagh Cup is getting a bit of coverage now finally too, which is well overdue on gaanow. Great to see." Interesting to see some of the Carlow posters adopt the exact same attitude to Christy Ring counties as they claim Liam Mc Carthy counties do to them...bit of hypocrisy there now lads PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 15/06/2019 18:30:39 2195337 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "There's a valid argument at this time though for a small realignment of the competition boundaries." Croke Park will definitely realign the championship to stop Offaly dropping down....cue no relegation from Mc Donagh and one team up from Ring (or even a play off between Offaly and the winner next week).... PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 15/06/2019 18:33:43 2195339 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "There's a valid argument at this time though for a small realignment of the competition boundaries." Surprised that they don't have to play the christy ring winner in an 11th hour relegation/promotion match. Its sad to see Offaly slip this far but parachuting Joachim Kelly and co in over the head of Kevin Martin was the totally wrong thing to do, they deserved no luck pulling a stunt like that. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1913 - 15/06/2019 18:33:44 2195340 Link
Offaly lost the match but Kerry won Let's not forget that Offaly are were they are, Offaly we're also we'll beat by Derry today on the Celtic Challenge by 7 cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 15/06/2019 19:06:58 2195353 Link
The Joe Mac and Christy ring are both great competitions. Give the new structure a few years to settle in. Offaly wernt good enough to stay in Joe Mac so are relegated and rightly so. Who knows it could be just what offaly need to get going in the right direction again. But the structure can't be changed just cause it's offaly. The problem lies higher up, carlow deserve a crack at Waterford to stay up. I know it would make a mess of the provincial structure but maybe that day is done. Have an open draw of 2 groups for the all ireland bottom 2 play a relegation and leave the other 2 competitions as they are. Meath had a bad year last year and got relegated but are moving in the right direction now and I think if they had to play offaly today meath would probably beat them. All going well after next week they will get the chance at Joe Mac it can only be good for counties like Meath. hurlinglad15 (Meath) - Posts: 36 - 15/06/2019 19:40:42 2195368 Link
Remembering growing up watching the dooley and troy brothers hockeying teams on a yearly basis. How the mighty have fallen. BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 15/06/2019 20:53:43 2195424 Link
There will be no change in the structure Offaly will go down and rebuild now is their chance. Too many escapes in the past few years it was like Wimbeldon escaping every year relegation from the Premier League!!! If they are good enough they will win league and Christy Ring next year. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 15/06/2019 20:59:11 2195430 Link
Its a joke the is no relegation in munster brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 15/06/2019 21:17:41 2195453 Link
Replying To brisbane: "Its a joke the is no relegation in munster" I don't agree with relegation at all to be honest in any hurling structure. There are more one sided games in football than hurling and no one is relegated there. If Laois Offaly Westmeath Carlow Meath and Kerry feel they are good enough they should be accommodated in the championship structures. Imagine a Munster team getting relegated jez you may as well not play the Joe Mac Cup. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 15/06/2019 23:25:55 2195575 Link
Replying To PaudieSull1: "Interesting to see some of the Carlow posters adopt the exact same attitude to Christy Ring counties as they claim Liam Mc Carthy counties do to them...bit of hypocrisy there now lads" That's a fair enough point Paudie and I suppose every county is looking after their own interests. It's not that Carlow are looking down at the Christy ring teams as we were playing it 2 years ago but just looking at how we can get more teams in at senior level. Would it not be better for hurling to have 12 teams playing senior instead of the same 9 every year plus one token team going up for just a year. Good luck in the ring final by the way, we could never beat Down up north so we know how good you lads are. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 16/06/2019 09:11:04 2195620 Link
Replying To brisbane: "Its a joke the is no relegation in munster" It is a bit odd. Leinster teams get relegated, Munster don't. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1745 - 16/06/2019 11:10:19 2195659 Link
Does this result count as revenge for 1982? ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 17/06/2019 09:23:13 2196229 Link
Replying To thelongridge: "It is a bit odd. Leinster teams get relegated, Munster don't." A Munster team will be relegated if Kerry win the Joe McDonagh. Hawkeye9212 (Donegal) - Posts: 266 - 17/06/2019 12:06:46 2196372 Link