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Disgraceful Waterford

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Last year was amazing but it has been a poor Munster Championship this year. No harm in that, it happens.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13711 - 02/06/2019 18:49:44    2189887

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Replying To blackspot91:  "So you are saying because there was one poor match, everything good that people love about munster hurling was all an illusion?"
One poor match? In case you're not aware, 'The glorious Munster Hurling Championship' is only half way through; there are still 5 matches to be played.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2477 - 02/06/2019 18:52:32    2189890

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Replying To Barnowl94:  "Clare V Tipp in Ennis Ladies and gents.
I rest my case."
Yeah and to listen to the traditionalists, you would think that if any of the Munster teams were to meet each other in an "open" All ireland championship it wouldnt have the same "magic" about it. They could have all that under an open system and still retain their "magical" and "mythical" Munster championship. It is only a matter of time before football moves away from the provincial system anyway and where football goes hurling is sure to follow. Their days are numbered.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 02/06/2019 19:11:38    2189900

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Replying To festinog:  "Nope, he's saying that of Munster's 7 counties, 3.5 of them are good at hurling at any one time. You can take that as a dig at Munster if you like, but the rest of us see a provincial system that is meaningless. No Connacht, no Ulster, an ad hoc Leinster, and a Munster that flatters to deceive. Well past time for an overhaul."
Where is the seventh county in Munster. I know there was North and South Riding in Tipp one time, but that is gone a hundred years ago.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 02/06/2019 19:13:04    2189901

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Replying To Viking66:  "Doubt Waterford would beat either if they played next week. Both Wexford and Dublin beat Tipp this year- something Munster teams seem to be struggling to do?"
Wexford posters, among others, have been telling us all the Spring that the League means nothing

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 02/06/2019 19:16:07    2189904

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Galway didn't win a game in the Munster Championship and trotted off back the West because they couldn't handle it. Today was two teams being totally on their game and 2 being off or totally off theirs. It's a ruthless game..fine margins. Next week will be better we hope."
Munster die hards like to spout that nonsense alright but it's not true , MMMM standsfor more Munster myth making.
Galway did win a game in Munster at senior level and also contested to Munster U21 finals.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 02/06/2019 19:29:33    2189912

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Replying To festinog:  "Delusional post, totally unsupported by one iota of evidence."
Lots of evidence. As bad as Waterford are they were in a league final a months ago and were in the all Ireland final 2 years ago. Dublin and Wexford haven't been in the All Ireland final in decades.
Lets not talk about the under 21 All Ireland waterford won at a canter.(Cant talk about the under 21 championship when Leinster teams are around) They dont count lads....no barometer of hurling in a county....

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 02/06/2019 19:43:55    2189921

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It was actually very sad watching waterford today, 12 of there 2017 AI final starting 15 figured in some way today.

Forget debates on Sweeper,wides, tactics etc. there lack of effort in the 2nd half was simply inexcusable, weather players, management, both or other factors need to take responsibility today something was drastically wrong with that team.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 02/06/2019 19:49:22    2189926

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Where is the seventh county in Munster. I know there was North and South Riding in Tipp one time, but that is gone a hundred years ago."
I accept your point of order, and in my defense I think I speak for everyone when I say that once Munster accepted a county on the Connacht side of the Shannon, people stopped taking it seriously as an entity so really, does anyone care?

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 02/06/2019 19:50:11    2189928

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Galway didn't win a game in the Munster Championship and trotted off back the West because they couldn't handle it. Today was two teams being totally on their game and 2 being off or totally off theirs. It's a ruthless game..fine margins. Next week will be better we hope."
Munster Senior Hurling Championship
Quarter-finals

28 May 1961Quarter-final Galway 2-13 - 0-07 Clare MacDonagh Park


It takes a Leinster man to put you right on the history of the Munster Championship. You're out of your depth.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2477 - 02/06/2019 19:54:31    2189932

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Would you go away with your 3.5. Even Waterford as bad as they are playing are still better than Dublin and Wexford."
Ah come on now BB. Dublin and Wexford have decent teams at the moment . Waterford on current form might beat Carlow but not any other Liam McCarthy team

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 944 - 02/06/2019 20:16:18    2189950

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Munster Senior Hurling Championship
Quarter-finals

28 May 1961Quarter-final Galway 2-13 - 0-07 Clare MacDonagh Park


It takes a Leinster man to put you right on the history of the Munster Championship. You're out of your depth."
Hands up...you got me there. I should have checked my alternative facts. I wasnt born until 1988

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 02/06/2019 20:54:36    2189974

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Replying To bloodyban:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Munster Senior Hurling Championship
Quarter-finals

28 May 1961Quarter-final Galway 2-13 - 0-07 Clare MacDonagh Park


It takes a Leinster man to put you right on the history of the Munster Championship. You're out of your depth."
Hands up...you got me there. I should have checked my alternative facts. I wasnt born until 1988"
Fair play to you. I had to correct someone else on here about a year or two ago; saying the same thing ( Galway never won a game in the Munster Hurling Championship ). It seems to be a common misconception. Although, I think the match I stated was Galway's one and only win in Munster.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2477 - 02/06/2019 21:07:00    2189982

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Replying To festinog:  "I accept your point of order, and in my defense I think I speak for everyone when I say that once Munster accepted a county on the Connacht side of the Shannon, people stopped taking it seriously as an entity so really, does anyone care?"
The main word in your reply was 'accepted'. Munster 'accepted' did not take several years to accept Galway at all grades, unlike Leinster.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 02/06/2019 22:05:32    2190006

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "The main word in your reply was 'accepted'. Munster 'accepted' did not take several years to accept Galway at all grades, unlike Leinster."
True enough. But completely unrelated to the subject at hand, other than to show in a very circumspect way how utterly contrived the provincial system has become.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 02/06/2019 22:49:21    2190023

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Replying To bloodyban:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Munster Senior Hurling Championship
Quarter-finals

28 May 1961Quarter-final Galway 2-13 - 0-07 Clare MacDonagh Park


It takes a Leinster man to put you right on the history of the Munster Championship. You're out of your depth."
Hands up...you got me there. I should have checked my alternative facts. I wasnt born until 1988"
Maybe should should check your stats before posting in the future?
At least you were born in a good year for hurling!

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 03/06/2019 00:05:52    2190041

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Replying To Viking66:  "Doubt Waterford would beat either if they played next week. Both Wexford and Dublin beat Tipp this year- something Munster teams seem to be struggling to do?"
Limerick beat Tipp easily in the league this year. Regardless, bit strange to point to games against a third team in the league in a debate of who would win a match now.

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 03/06/2019 06:18:35    2190059

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "One poor match? In case you're not aware, 'The glorious Munster Hurling Championship' is only half way through; there are still 5 matches to be played."
Yes, but we can't base opinions on events that haven't happened yet..

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 03/06/2019 06:20:51    2190060

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "The main word in your reply was 'accepted'. Munster 'accepted' did not take several years to accept Galway at all grades, unlike Leinster."
Ha, any chance Munster will "accept" Kerry into their glorious championship? What with Kerry being in Munster and all?

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 03/06/2019 08:33:58    2190074

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Replying To ballydalane:  "Ha, any chance Munster will "accept" Kerry into their glorious championship? What with Kerry being in Munster and all?"
Who actually thought of that plan re Kerry. Was it imposed by Central Council or Munster Council? Yes I think they should be playing in their own province. They even won a match in Munster within the last thirty years - V Waterford in 93.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 03/06/2019 09:59:04    2190088

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