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Donegal Vs Tyrone

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "When a player gets sent off you always hear the crowd jeering, in a lot sports that happens. So get off your high horse and stop your crying.

Also a lot of Tyrone people cheered for Donegal as well. Its an Ulster thing as well you know.

Never heard so much complaining in all my life."
You don't spit on players when there sent off. I've supported tyrone when they won there all Ireland's but that day in omagh when Karl got spat at. Changed my opinion that's my opinion but from my travels around donegal talking to big gaa fans there is little love for tyrone. It wasn't one individual that day it was quite a few individuals. I know a lot of fans who won't take there children to throne games. Enough said. And by the way there are a lot of good tyrone gaels who are genuine people who I even have the pleasure of having a few drinks with and would hold them with the highest respect.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 05/06/2019 12:19:08    2190817

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Replying To rorysboys:  "You don't spit on players when there sent off. I've supported tyrone when they won there all Ireland's but that day in omagh when Karl got spat at. Changed my opinion that's my opinion but from my travels around donegal talking to big gaa fans there is little love for tyrone. It wasn't one individual that day it was quite a few individuals. I know a lot of fans who won't take there children to throne games. Enough said. And by the way there are a lot of good tyrone gaels who are genuine people who I even have the pleasure of having a few drinks with and would hold them with the highest respect."
To be fair, that's like saying Donegal fans are spiteful because a couple of them took a swing at Pat Spillane before a match in Croker. Or all Tipp hurling fans are the same because a group of young fellas started fighting on the terrace. Would it not just be better to admit that all counties have fans who are stupid enough to get carried away in the heat of the moment without taking some moral high ground claiming we are more respectable than your lot etc.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 05/06/2019 12:29:30    2190822

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "To be fair, that's like saying Donegal fans are spiteful because a couple of them took a swing at Pat Spillane before a match in Croker. Or all Tipp hurling fans are the same because a group of young fellas started fighting on the terrace. Would it not just be better to admit that all counties have fans who are stupid enough to get carried away in the heat of the moment without taking some moral high ground claiming we are more respectable than your lot etc."
That's exactly what a few Donegal fans are doing......trying to take the moral high ground and it laughable.

All countries have a few head cases. Donegal just as many as Tyrone.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 05/06/2019 12:42:45    2190829

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Back to the football. It will be interesting to see if both sides really push up on the kickouts and take a risk. Further down the line if either side is to challenge Dublin, they surely have to go for an aggressive press on the kickouts. Both teams looks vulnerable when teams run at the heart of their defence so they may not be that adventurous.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 05/06/2019 13:32:26    2190859

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "That's exactly what a few Donegal fans are doing......trying to take the moral high ground and it laughable.

All countries have a few head cases. Donegal just as many as Tyrone."
What's laughable is you defending it all but that says plenty really. We can agree to disagree!

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 05/06/2019 13:56:57    2190873

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Lads we have just as many clowns who over step the mark at times at games - just like Tyrone

Take off the green and gold glasses and likewise Tyrone lads

eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1595 - 05/06/2019 14:57:25    2190898

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I was in Omagh in 2013-2014 league game. Tasty encounter that we lost. I wasn't in the stand but on the opposing terrace. An earlier poster was correct about the Tyrone supporters in the stand cheering and jeering Murphy off the pitch.
But as bad as it might seem, it is a lot better than going to a match similar to a wake in terms of atmosphere. We cant have it both ways as a supporter. Sometimes these things spill over in the moment - This was one of those moments.

I also remember with great delight, the Tyrone keeper being ironically cheered up and down the pitch by Donegal supporters in Ballybofey in 2015 as he kicked 5 wides from dead balls. We were not very sporting that day either. I think people are getting the picture now.

I really hope it will be the later case on sunday if there is cheering or booing done.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 05/06/2019 15:28:28    2190901

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Replying To Donegalman:  "I was in Omagh in 2013-2014 league game. Tasty encounter that we lost. I wasn't in the stand but on the opposing terrace. An earlier poster was correct about the Tyrone supporters in the stand cheering and jeering Murphy off the pitch.
But as bad as it might seem, it is a lot better than going to a match similar to a wake in terms of atmosphere. We cant have it both ways as a supporter. Sometimes these things spill over in the moment - This was one of those moments.

I also remember with great delight, the Tyrone keeper being ironically cheered up and down the pitch by Donegal supporters in Ballybofey in 2015 as he kicked 5 wides from dead balls. We were not very sporting that day either. I think people are getting the picture now.

I really hope it will be the later case on sunday if there is cheering or booing done."
Yeah but Morgan brought that all on himself by gesturing to the crowd once he pointed the first free, trying to psyche himself up. He missed the rest and rightly faced the ironic cheers of the Donegal fans he was waving at. Murphy didn't do anything that day other than the fact he was a great player and All Ireland winning captain who they wanted to disrespect.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 05/06/2019 15:53:08    2190916

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Yeah but Morgan brought that all on himself by gesturing to the crowd once he pointed the first free, trying to psyche himself up. He missed the rest and rightly faced the ironic cheers of the Donegal fans he was waving at. Murphy didn't do anything that day other than the fact he was a great player and All Ireland winning captain who they wanted to disrespect."
I hope you don't work for the taxman if that is the way you keep score of things!

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 05/06/2019 15:58:28    2190919

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Yeah but Morgan brought that all on himself by gesturing to the crowd once he pointed the first free, trying to psyche himself up. He missed the rest and rightly faced the ironic cheers of the Donegal fans he was waving at. Murphy didn't do anything that day other than the fact he was a great player and All Ireland winning captain who they wanted to disrespect."
I think your own county men have proved my point.

Let's get back to the football.

I read in the paper some of the Donegal support have a long way to travel.

I was personally surprised Cavan was picked. Thought it would be Clones.

Anyone here have to travel long distances?

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 05/06/2019 16:11:05    2190922

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I would have supported Tyrone when they won the All Ireland's, great team they were, but there is a nasty element among Tyrone fans now, not all of them obviously but it's there, it would put you off supporting them as we always would have done with any Ulster team playing down south,
I expect Tyrone will win on Saturday but they are not the Tyrone of old either, a Donegal win wouldn't be a total surprise if things go well for us.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2757 - 05/06/2019 16:16:32    2190924

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "Back to the football. It will be interesting to see if both sides really push up on the kickouts and take a risk. Further down the line if either side is to challenge Dublin, they surely have to go for an aggressive press on the kickouts. Both teams looks vulnerable when teams run at the heart of their defence so they may not be that adventurous."
It's going to be intriguing.

Would love for both teams to push up but I just can't see it, to big of a risk with the players at both teams disposal. A goal will be huge in this game, you push up and lose the kick out you are open at the back.

Your right about the dubs, only way to beat them but I think both teams will wait.

What about match ups?

Doherty to start to mark Mattie Donnelly/Petey Harte maybe? McLoone to mark Mattie Donnelly maybe.
McNamee will mark McBrearty. Hampsey will Mark Murphy I think. Cassidy on Brennan?

So many tight calls!!

What's the weather giving? Wet I presume?

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 05/06/2019 16:17:10    2190925

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "It's going to be intriguing.

Would love for both teams to push up but I just can't see it, to big of a risk with the players at both teams disposal. A goal will be huge in this game, you push up and lose the kick out you are open at the back.

Your right about the dubs, only way to beat them but I think both teams will wait.

What about match ups?

Doherty to start to mark Mattie Donnelly/Petey Harte maybe? McLoone to mark Mattie Donnelly maybe.
McNamee will mark McBrearty. Hampsey will Mark Murphy I think. Cassidy on Brennan?

So many tight calls!!

What's the weather giving? Wet I presume?"
Yeah it's going to be interesting to see the match-ups alright. A wild card man-marker for us might be McFadden-Ferry. He hasn't played at senior level at all yet but he is teak tough and sticky as hell. He ruined Kieran Hughes' day in the Ulster club final last December! Probably too big a game to expect Bonner to throw him in to but you never know.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 05/06/2019 16:30:14    2190928

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Replying To Donegalman:  "I hope you don't work for the taxman if that is the way you keep score of things!"
Memories endure!

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 05/06/2019 19:06:27    2190970

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Memories endure!"
Totally agree. Memories endure for sure. I was in Omagh on that day in 2013 too and never ever witnessed such venom and hatred from fans anywhere before or after. And it wasn't just one or two supporters. It was mob mentality - men, women and children.

Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 05/06/2019 20:56:23    2191004

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Replying To Lifford Gael:  "Totally agree. Memories endure for sure. I was in Omagh on that day in 2013 too and never ever witnessed such venom and hatred from fans anywhere before or after. And it wasn't just one or two supporters. It was mob mentality - men, women and children."
That's exactly how I would describe it, mob mentality. Anyway, it's not popular telling it as it is but sure the truth is the truth.

On to the game now and in fairness, Tyrone are clear favorites as we really haven't beaten a big team under Declan Bonner in Championship and until we do, you have to back Tyrone in this instance. I feel they will be a lot more defensive than they have been till now. I kind of feel they knew they would beat Derry and Antrim and tried our certain things in those games that they might deploy later in the summer. I still expect them to move the ball by the foot quite fast into the lads inside and mix it up with their hard running game. They are a serious team and I think they'll be the closest to Dublin this summer. Feel Kerry have a bit of a way to go yet and Mayo aren't quite at that level anymore.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 05/06/2019 21:39:13    2191012

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Replying To Lifford Gael:  "Totally agree. Memories endure for sure. I was in Omagh on that day in 2013 too and never ever witnessed such venom and hatred from fans anywhere before or after. And it wasn't just one or two supporters. It was mob mentality - men, women and children."
Sean relax lad. Stop trying to take the moral high ground.

Other Donegal fans have said what the majority feel.....all counties have a few fans who go over the top.

Now let's start talking football, that's what it's all about!!!!

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 05/06/2019 21:43:48    2191016

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It is going to take a very good team performance from us to get past Tyrone this weekend. It will be tough and I think Tyrone are an excellent team, but it certainly is not an insurmountable challenge. We have been playing second fiddle in our last three championship meetings, and I feel we will need to score at least one​ goal and we need to be hitting an aggregate score somewhere in the 16/17 point margin. I expect both teams to line up more defensively than they have at any point this year. I expect us to leave at least one sweeper in front of McGee to try and limit the supply into mcshane and the two Donnelly's. I think Harte will have his forward line rotating from the off in an effort to create space for them to do the damage. Mf will be so key, we will at least need parity in this area where we are going to need a massive game from McFadden and good support from wing forward s and wing back's who will have to be ravenous on the breaking ball. My head is telling me Tyrone will just about shade it but the heart says Donegal by 4!

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 920 - 05/06/2019 23:43:39    2191057

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Memories endure!"
You are 100% right memories do endure. Will never forget donegal fans physically attacking pat spillage. Not many teams in Ireland have fans like that.

Or also the memory of Michael Murphy and a few others admitting that Peter harte was "targeted" for abuse in 2011.

It would seem memories only endure for you when donegal aren't involved in it. Grow up. All teams have idiot fans.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 06/06/2019 06:30:13    2191070

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Memories endure!"
You are 100% right memories do endure. Will never forget donegal fans physically attacking pat spillage. Not many teams in Ireland have fans like that.

Or also the memory of Michael Murphy and a few others admitting that Peter harte was "targeted" for abuse in 2011.

It would seem memories only endure for you when donegal aren't involved in it. Grow up. All teams have idiot fans.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 06/06/2019 06:56:51    2191071

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