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Conor Cox Kerry Mistake

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@ clondalkin Cox is 27 or thereabouts now, it's not like he is a young lad that just needed time to bed in. Maybe he didn't get enough chances
GeniusGerry (Kerry)

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He 25 at the moment and when he last played for Kerry he was only 22. He was only given 3 league starts for Kerry so yes its clear to say he wasn't given enough chances. 8 games for us now and 1-35 scored and it not just his scoring ratio but how involved he is in the majority of our attacks and is showing good leadership qualities that he probably didn't have as 22 year old. Anyway no one more delighted than his Loughglynn dad as he put in a MOTM performance against Mayo last Saturday.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3759 - 28/05/2019 18:18:23    2188577

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Replying To The_analyser:  "@ clondalkin Cox is 27 or thereabouts now, it's not like he is a young lad that just needed time to bed in. Maybe he didn't get enough chances
GeniusGerry (Kerry)

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He 25 at the moment and when he last played for Kerry he was only 22. He was only given 3 league starts for Kerry so yes its clear to say he wasn't given enough chances. 8 games for us now and 1-35 scored and it not just his scoring ratio but how involved he is in the majority of our attacks and is showing good leadership qualities that he probably didn't have as 22 year old. Anyway no one more delighted than his Loughglynn dad as he put in a MOTM performance against Mayo last Saturday."
At the risk of nitpicking Cox will be 27 this year if he isn't already. Looking at when he played underage he has to be at least 26

I'm glad things have worked out for him up there he is a serious find for Roscommon best of luck in the final

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 28/05/2019 20:40:39    2188615

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Kerry are completely stacked up front so I don't think they'll miss Cox.

Had he just put in a commanding performance at centre back or something then maybe you'd have a point about Kerry missing a trick.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13713 - 28/05/2019 20:44:35    2188617

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We should all be backing Kerry to win the all Ireland if they have 6 starting forwards and 3 more forwards on the bench better than Conor Cox !

hurler32 (Limerick) - Posts: 867 - 28/05/2019 22:17:56    2188664

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Replying To The_analyser:  "@ clondalkin Cox is 27 or thereabouts now, it's not like he is a young lad that just needed time to bed in. Maybe he didn't get enough chances
GeniusGerry (Kerry)

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He 25 at the moment and when he last played for Kerry he was only 22. He was only given 3 league starts for Kerry so yes its clear to say he wasn't given enough chances. 8 games for us now and 1-35 scored and it not just his scoring ratio but how involved he is in the majority of our attacks and is showing good leadership qualities that he probably didn't have as 22 year old. Anyway no one more delighted than his Loughglynn dad as he put in a MOTM performance against Mayo last Saturday."
Yes i do believe he should have been given more then 3 league starts as he is a player that has always raised a high level of interest. Probably with our full forward the only line of the pitch being so strong the last couple of years didnt help him but certainly seems a better player then some of the other options that were tried out during Fitzmaurices time.

Best of luck to him and Roscommon.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 28/05/2019 22:31:28    2188670

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Conor is a really welcome addition but we benefited from another mistake, this time by Dublin Co. Board in not hoovering up Anthony Cunningham as manager for their Senior Hurling team. Their loss is our gain and from the perilous managerless position we were in early November , I cant think of any other appointment at that stage that would have got us into a position of tactically outsmarting Mayo and getting that result last Saturday evening.

Anthony is a very modest guy and I dont think he gets enough credit for the way he has been able to jump back and forth between different codes and continue to be successful. Unprecedented as far as i am aware.

facethepuckout (Roscommon) - Posts: 214 - 28/05/2019 23:19:36    2188687

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Totally disagree on Barry, he is going to be good. The rest are bench players and a fella that has been dropped off the panel. As I suspected you are talking complete and utter pony. How long did you spend researching that?"
Talking complete and utter pony? I must have hit a nerve with you so. Barry has been in and around the squad three years now. When is he going to come good then? He had a great game on Fenton in the 2017 league final but that's one time two years ago. Kerry are seriously lacking in quality midfielders at the moment. Barry's club man Diarmuid O'Connor has lots of potential and will get his chance this summer I'm sure. But Peter Keane better hope David Moran is back injury free soon as Griffin isnt near the standard.

summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 315 - 29/05/2019 11:00:17    2188757

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Hands up to Conor Cox for his performance against Mayo.
But criticizing Kerry for allowing him to get away, is one I am not so sure.
I think under Fitzmaurice he choose to go to the US one summer he was in the training panel and getting playing time in the league. After that I think Fitzmaurice just ignored him.

Also Cox underage was one selfish player, get the ball and shoot on sight. It may have looked unreal against mayo but there are also other days when he cost Kerry underage games doing the very same.

So let's just take it like Billy Sheehan, he was never good enough for Kerry but he had a long intercounty career with laois. Hopefully Cox will have the same with Roscommon.

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 29/05/2019 12:08:52    2188771

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Replying To woops:  "Hands up to Conor Cox for his performance against Mayo.
But criticizing Kerry for allowing him to get away, is one I am not so sure.
I think under Fitzmaurice he choose to go to the US one summer he was in the training panel and getting playing time in the league. After that I think Fitzmaurice just ignored him.

Also Cox underage was one selfish player, get the ball and shoot on sight. It may have looked unreal against mayo but there are also other days when he cost Kerry underage games doing the very same.

So let's just take it like Billy Sheehan, he was never good enough for Kerry but he had a long intercounty career with laois. Hopefully Cox will have the same with Roscommon."
Wow you're calling him out for being a selfish underage player and blaming him for losing Kerry underage games my god. I give up.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 29/05/2019 12:25:41    2188777

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Replying To summerof09:  "Talking complete and utter pony? I must have hit a nerve with you so. Barry has been in and around the squad three years now. When is he going to come good then? He had a great game on Fenton in the 2017 league final but that's one time two years ago. Kerry are seriously lacking in quality midfielders at the moment. Barry's club man Diarmuid O'Connor has lots of potential and will get his chance this summer I'm sure. But Peter Keane better hope David Moran is back injury free soon as Griffin isnt near the standard."
You haven't touched a nerve, but you are reaching big time because you can't stand over what you said. You said the team was full of passengers and when asked to clarify the list you gave is laughable, one promising young player and a handful of lads that won't make the team or have already been dropped.

As for Barry it depends on your definition of come good. I have seen a lot of him and already think he is good and could be very good. Barry has marked Fenton several times and done well including this year, not just once 2017. Yes there are aspects of Barry's game that need improvement, particularly his decision making when in possession but he is still young. As Clon remarked earlier in the thread even the likes of Connolly and Flynn were nothing special in their formative years with Dublin, it takes time for players to become leaders. I think Barry would benefit from having a more established player beside him as he is not ready to be the lead midfielder yet. The fact that our other options there are limited is not his fault. I think he would make most county teams, you clearly don't agree and that's fair enough.

We won't see griffin in midfield again so not really relevant. It was tried during the league and it was a complete failure so we move on.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 29/05/2019 12:46:00    2188787

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Wow you're calling him out for being a selfish underage player and blaming him for losing Kerry underage games my god. I give up."
Good luck was nice having you on HS , Clondalkin :-)

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 29/05/2019 13:20:45    2188809

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Wow you're calling him out for being a selfish underage player and blaming him for losing Kerry underage games my god. I give up."
Actually it was just a way of pointing out how he never made it really in Kerry.

Hope he gets on well with Roscommon but yera life will go on just fine without him.

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 29/05/2019 13:22:37    2188810

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Wow you're calling him out for being a selfish underage player and blaming him for losing Kerry underage games my god. I give up."
Wow that's not actually what he said at all there. I give up myself. Try reading it again.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7906 - 29/05/2019 14:32:05    2188842

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He payed in every grade for Kerry played 3
national league games and scored in all three
what happened with him and the management
im not sure i can tell u there were guys on the
panel then and there are guys on the panel now
that wouldnt tie his boot laces i have said it to myself
for the last few years why is this guy not playing for Kerry
right now he would be a better fit at full forward than
Tommy Walsh some guys cant get off the panel no
matter how bad they are and some guys cant get on the
panel no matter how good they are just look at Mayo
they have an all star keeper on the bench we all know
the reason why similar things happen in Kerry

wfkerry (USA) - Posts: 933 - 29/05/2019 14:51:06    2188851

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Replying To summerof09:  "Talking complete and utter pony? I must have hit a nerve with you so. Barry has been in and around the squad three years now. When is he going to come good then? He had a great game on Fenton in the 2017 league final but that's one time two years ago. Kerry are seriously lacking in quality midfielders at the moment. Barry's club man Diarmuid O'Connor has lots of potential and will get his chance this summer I'm sure. But Peter Keane better hope David Moran is back injury free soon as Griffin isnt near the standard."
I think Jack Barry could be very good. Looked excellent the couple of times I saw him.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13713 - 29/05/2019 15:03:03    2188856

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Replying To MesAmis:  "I think Jack Barry could be very good. Looked excellent the couple of times I saw him."
On current form Conor Cox would be starting on the Kerry team. It makes you wonder how many more talented players we do not know of

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 30/05/2019 11:28:29    2189053

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If Cox continues to play like that all summer than Kerry have made a huge mistake, there'll be a strong chance Peter Keane will be talking to Cox trying to get him back.

JDF (Galway) - Posts: 322 - 30/05/2019 13:57:28    2189107

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I'm sure that Cunningham would rather that Cox was not the topic of conversation as it draws unwanted attention.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 30/05/2019 15:36:27    2189140

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Its all politics in Kerry Conor Cox was a rossie and didnt have the same pull as someone like Paul Geaney who is playing some awful stuff the last while

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 30/05/2019 16:26:38    2189162

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Totally disagree on Barry, he is going to be good. The rest are bench players and a fella that has been dropped off the panel. As I suspected you are talking complete and utter pony. How long did you spend researching that?"
When is Barry 'going to be good'? When did he last have a good game? He has no ball control and doesn't seem to be able to make those surging straight line solo runs any more. Kerry have a huge problem at midfield. Barry may be injured for next Sunday btw.

Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 30/05/2019 18:06:17    2189183

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