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Conor Cox Kerry Mistake

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@ clondalkin Cox is 27 or thereabouts now, it's not like he is a young lad that just needed time to bed in. Maybe he didn't get enough chances but there has always been very good players ahead of him like Geaney, JOD and Donaghy in recent years and now Clifford and Walsh. I'd bet there are a dozen or more players playing club football in Dublin who would look great playing for another county too.

It's quite possible that the Roscommon setup suits him and he just needed that chance where he can be the focal point of their attack, he was never going to get that in Kerry. Other teams have seen what he can do now so let's see how he copes being doubled up on and getting the attention that a marquee forward gets. I'd need to see more before declaring this a big mistake.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 27/05/2019 11:33:12    2188050

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Replying To summerof09:  "Too many passengers lad and not near good enough to win the All Ireland. That can be hard to take for any Kerry man. Back to the thread, Conor Cox should be on the Kerry team."
I'd say what you know about Kerry football could be documented on the back of a postage stamp tbh. Can you name one likely starter for Kerry in 2019 that could be labelled a passenger?

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 27/05/2019 12:15:32    2188071

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "I'd say what you know about Kerry football could be documented on the back of a postage stamp tbh. Can you name one likely starter for Kerry in 2019 that could be labelled a passenger?"
First I read of Cox was when he was on the starting full-forward UCC team. He was on the left, Paul Geaney was at full, and Gavan O'Grady was at right. He averaged close to eight points a game.
All three were put on the county panel. He cannot remember him ever getting any game time on the team. Neither to my recollection did O'Grady.
Another at that time was Pa Kilkenny from Glenbeigh. Got a run against Mayo in the replay game in Limerick and was impressive. He was then dropped. Still playing brilliant club football.
Cox then surfaced on the County Junior team and won two or three Al_Irelands, scoring 1-05 in lasy year's final.
Is he better than the current forwards? Cannot say but would like to see him in there with Clifford and Geaney, OR in there in the middle with J.O'D and Clifford on either side.

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 749 - 27/05/2019 15:28:04    2188175

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This is Gas. He has been on the scene about 5 minutes . Reminds me of Martin McHugh declaring JOD as better than the Gooch after one season.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7906 - 27/05/2019 16:11:35    2188198

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "This is Gas. He has been on the scene about 5 minutes . Reminds me of Martin McHugh declaring JOD as better than the Gooch after one season."
If you had watched Sigerson cup football over the last number of years you would know he's on the scene longer than " 5 minutes" the topic is did Kerry make a mistake by not giving him more of chance? I think Roscommon should got him in sooner than they did but McStay and McHale didn't look outside the box like Cunningham did this winter.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 27/05/2019 16:50:56    2188225

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Replying To Yondu:  "If you had watched Sigerson cup football over the last number of years you would know he's on the scene longer than " 5 minutes" the topic is did Kerry make a mistake by not giving him more of chance? I think Roscommon should got him in sooner than they did but McStay and McHale didn't look outside the box like Cunningham did this winter."
He has done well for Roscommon, I am having a pop at lads who think Kerry let a young lad go who was shooting the lights out at senior level. So I am going to say no Kerry didn't make a mistake.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7906 - 27/05/2019 17:02:12    2188234

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "I'd say what you know about Kerry football could be documented on the back of a postage stamp tbh. Can you name one likely starter for Kerry in 2019 that could be labelled a passenger?"
Dont react to that Gerry hes a WUM.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 27/05/2019 17:28:09    2188243

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Cox looks like a talent, but you can see the divil in his eye :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 27/05/2019 17:48:11    2188248

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Been hearing about him for years from lads with big interest in Kerry Club Football. Thought they were talking rubbish since I hadnt seen him get a run but he looks like a serious player .

dubshurling7 (Dublin) - Posts: 1017 - 27/05/2019 17:48:56    2188249

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "I'd say what you know about Kerry football could be documented on the back of a postage stamp tbh. Can you name one likely starter for Kerry in 2019 that could be labelled a passenger?"
You could be right there! I can name more than one for you actually. Neither Mark Griffin and Jack Barry are inter county standard midfielders. Adrian Spillane and Kevin McCarthy are two others off the top my head. They may be only bench players but Griffin and Barry were starting in your last competitive match.

summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 315 - 27/05/2019 18:57:38    2188260

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We'll know he's from Kerry anyway, Sky commentary must have mentioned it every time he got the ball.
Surely they can tell us something we don't know.
His dad also played for Roscommon did he not?
Kerry could have done with him in the league final

candlewax (Galway) - Posts: 284 - 27/05/2019 19:14:06    2188270

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "He has done well for Roscommon, I am having a pop at lads who think Kerry let a young lad go who was shooting the lights out at senior level. So I am going to say no Kerry didn't make a mistake."
He just burned you're defenders for fun last Saturday i can't remember too many Kerry forwards doing the same in the league final. You roast the Mayo defense which is arguably the best defense in Ireland you'll do it to any team.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 27/05/2019 19:23:48    2188277

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "He just burned you're defenders for fun last Saturday i can't remember too many Kerry forwards doing the same in the league final. You roast the Mayo defense which is arguably the best defense in Ireland you'll do it to any team."
As I said, a couple of good games is a long way off saying he should be on a Kerry team.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7906 - 27/05/2019 20:32:47    2188299

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Replying To candlewax:  "We'll know he's from Kerry anyway, Sky commentary must have mentioned it every time he got the ball.
Surely they can tell us something we don't know.
His dad also played for Roscommon did he not?
Kerry could have done with him in the league final"
It wouldn't have mattered if we had the guns of Navarone in the full forward line against Mayo in the league final candelwax as the ball wasnt going in.

Our midfield was shot to sh*t .

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 27/05/2019 20:41:46    2188303

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Replying To summerof09:  "You could be right there! I can name more than one for you actually. Neither Mark Griffin and Jack Barry are inter county standard midfielders. Adrian Spillane and Kevin McCarthy are two others off the top my head. They may be only bench players but Griffin and Barry were starting in your last competitive match."
Totally disagree on Barry, he is going to be good. The rest are bench players and a fella that has been dropped off the panel. As I suspected you are talking complete and utter pony. How long did you spend researching that?

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 27/05/2019 21:14:22    2188320

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "He just burned you're defenders for fun last Saturday i can't remember too many Kerry forwards doing the same in the league final. You roast the Mayo defense which is arguably the best defense in Ireland you'll do it to any team."
Are mayo the best defence in Ireland still? Were they ever? They have had some unbelievable players back there but often they did their best work going forward. I've never really thought of them as a lockdown defensive unit, they have let in big scores in many games over the years.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 27/05/2019 21:42:02    2188337

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Replying To summerof09:  "You could be right there! I can name more than one for you actually. Neither Mark Griffin and Jack Barry are inter county standard midfielders. Adrian Spillane and Kevin McCarthy are two others off the top my head. They may be only bench players but Griffin and Barry were starting in your last competitive match."
Griffin spent his entire inter county career at full back until he was tried at midfield during the league, didn't start the league final and came on in the half back line.

Barry kept Brian Fenton quiet for 70 minutes in Tralee earlier this year and has done similar in the past, Fenton must be all hype if a fella who isn't even county standard can handle him.

Adrian Spillane has never played championship football for Kerry.

Kevin McCarthy isn't on the Kerry panel.

expe (UK) - Posts: 31 - 27/05/2019 23:00:55    2188363

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Replying To candlewax:  "We'll know he's from Kerry anyway, Sky commentary must have mentioned it every time he got the ball.
Surely they can tell us something we don't know.
His dad also played for Roscommon did he not?
Kerry could have done with him in the league final"
His father actually played for Roscommon the last time they won in Castlebar back in 1986,,,funny how the GAA wheel turns!

xile (Roscommon) - Posts: 9 - 28/05/2019 00:52:08    2188380

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Replying To expe:  "Griffin spent his entire inter county career at full back until he was tried at midfield during the league, didn't start the league final and came on in the half back line.

Barry kept Brian Fenton quiet for 70 minutes in Tralee earlier this year and has done similar in the past, Fenton must be all hype if a fella who isn't even county standard can handle him.

Adrian Spillane has never played championship football for Kerry.

Kevin McCarthy isn't on the Kerry panel."
"Fenton must be all hype if a fella who isn't even county standard can handle him" - funniest thing I've read on this forum to date!!

TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 206 - 28/05/2019 09:10:14    2188400

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Replying To TrueBlue35:  ""Fenton must be all hype if a fella who isn't even county standard can handle him" - funniest thing I've read on this forum to date!!"
To be fair Barry has done a very credible job on Fenton a couple of times and really limited his impact in games. That's not a sleight on Fenton at all its a compliment when players have to be man marked.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 28/05/2019 10:01:49    2188416

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