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Replying To theweanling: "I just want to correct one statement there, Poacher didn't persuade carlow to play a certain way. they were already playing like that in a qualifier game against cavan in 2016. he came in 2017 tidied up the edges and helped get them promoted. don't try and put a stain on what your county achieved by under stating what they achieved last year, they beat Kildare fair and square, never hit a wide the whole game if i'm correct? they got promoted which is a very very difficult task for a perennial loser, this gives them the impetus to go for promotion next year again!!! from what i hear Poachers task goes far beyond coaching the senior team, he's involved in underage structures etc. is that right? well he has a good reputation in ulster at it too!! perhaps this will yield a more long term result of producing skilled footballers. best of luck to carlow in the future!!!!" Hmmmm You sound like the man himself. dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 31/05/2019 11:13:37 2189341 Link
Replying To theweanling: "I just want to correct one statement there, Poacher didn't persuade carlow to play a certain way. they were already playing like that in a qualifier game against cavan in 2016. he came in 2017 tidied up the edges and helped get them promoted. don't try and put a stain on what your county achieved by under stating what they achieved last year, they beat Kildare fair and square, never hit a wide the whole game if i'm correct? they got promoted which is a very very difficult task for a perennial loser, this gives them the impetus to go for promotion next year again!!! from what i hear Poachers task goes far beyond coaching the senior team, he's involved in underage structures etc. is that right? well he has a good reputation in ulster at it too!! perhaps this will yield a more long term result of producing skilled footballers. best of luck to carlow in the future!!!!" Just want to correct you there. Poacher didn't officially come on board until 2017 but was very much involved in coaching the team in the lead up to the Cavan qualifier in 2016. Everything else you say is correct. His input goes beyond the senior team. All Carlow teams at underage level play the same now. Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1412 - 31/05/2019 14:01:44 2189404 Link
Replying To Onion Breath: "Just want to correct you there. Poacher didn't officially come on board until 2017 but was very much involved in coaching the team in the lead up to the Cavan qualifier in 2016. Everything else you say is correct. His input goes beyond the senior team. All Carlow teams at underage level play the same now." i stand corrected on that!!!! i do hope over time that his impact will bear more long term fruit. of course carlow will have to expand their game that's a given. i think everybody knows that but carlows achievements cant be downplayed. as for his relations with the media, i honestly think hes acting bullish to show the players a kind of never stand down mentality (if that makes sense) theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 31/05/2019 14:24:09 2189412 Link
You cannot run across the pitch like they did to berate/attack/abuse a ref. It only enflames things and the bans seem well deserved. witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 31/05/2019 14:59:59 2189429 Link
Replying To witnof: "You cannot run across the pitch like they did to berate/attack/abuse a ref. It only enflames things and the bans seem well deserved." And yet when other more famous managers do it it's seen as passion. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 31/05/2019 21:50:51 2189516 Link
Replying To carlovia: "And yet when other more famous managers do it it's seen as passion." Seen as passion when it was a once off. Now that it's becoming a regular feature of his games, it looks more and more like a deliberate ploy. If he does it again he should have the book, volumes I, II, and II, the pamphlet, the DVD, appendices, addendum, 2nd edition, and everything in between thrown at him. The teams are only supposed to field 15; if he continues to insist on playing the occasional 16th man, either change the rules to let everyone do it, or smack it down so hard no-one is even tempted to try again. If you think I'm seriously advocating for such a rule change, give me a call; I have a bridge in New York you might be interested in buying. festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 01/06/2019 02:46:43 2189551 Link
Replying To carlovia: "And yet when other more famous managers do it it's seen as passion." No it's not. Davy Fitz got a serious amount of stick and media coverage for coming onto the pitch against Tipp, and rightly so. Name one manager in recent times who hasn't been criticised for abusing the ref on the pitch. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2046 - 01/06/2019 08:24:15 2189561 Link
Replying To carlovia: "And yet when other more famous managers do it it's seen as passion." Stop trying to defend the indefensible royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/06/2019 09:02:45 2189568 Link
In fairness if you were at the game the only one who chased the ref was Turlough and he got his ban rightly. But in fairness Poacher didn't chase anyone as he was already over at that side of the field and the ref walked past him. This can all be seen in the video that was put out onlone Hometown45 (Carlow) - Posts: 203 - 01/06/2019 11:31:52 2189585 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Stop trying to defend the indefensible" You beat me to that one RD dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 01/06/2019 11:39:58 2189587 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Stop trying to defend the indefensible" I believe you defended Andy McEntee after he ran on too the pitch and completely lost it with the ref after the Meath vs Tyrone game. Meath players had to drag him away. Pot, Kettle? The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 01/06/2019 12:29:55 2189602 Link
Replying To The_Fridge: "I believe you defended Andy McEntee after he ran on too the pitch and completely lost it with the ref after the Meath vs Tyrone game. Meath players had to drag him away. Pot, Kettle?" But that was different, that was passion. When the Carlow lads did it, it's suspension time. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 01/06/2019 12:49:23 2189607 Link
Replying To BliainanÁir: "https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/05/26/carlow-coach-poacher-infers-laois-leaked-video-which-led-to-bans/ Poacher Paranoia. He's doing Carlow no favours here. I say this as a neighbour who always wish Carlow well once Laois are out of the championship. I've so many connections,first cousins who played with Carlow etc. But this fella and his 1-13-1 structure and general attitude is really full of it." 100% correct. It's sad when Poacher is now a bigger story than Carlow. He loves the limelight. ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 725 - 01/06/2019 15:18:59 2189620 Link
Replying To festinog: "Seen as passion when it was a once off. Now that it's becoming a regular feature of his games, it looks more and more like a deliberate ploy. If he does it again he should have the book, volumes I, II, and II, the pamphlet, the DVD, appendices, addendum, 2nd edition, and everything in between thrown at him. The teams are only supposed to field 15; if he continues to insist on playing the occasional 16th man, either change the rules to let everyone do it, or smack it down so hard no-one is even tempted to try again. If you think I'm seriously advocating for such a rule change, give me a call; I have a bridge in New York you might be interested in buying." For crying out loud he is the Maor Foirne so he's entitled to be on the pitch. It was never a problem until the snowflakes from Kildare starting whinging after we beat them off the park last year. Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1412 - 01/06/2019 16:54:01 2189637 Link
Replying To ryan: "100% correct. It's sad when Poacher is now a bigger story than Carlow. He loves the limelight." Granted he may love the lime light, but so too do one or two referees love the lime light. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 01/06/2019 20:33:47 2189674 Link
Replying To Onion Breath: "Just want to correct you there. Poacher didn't officially come on board until 2017 but was very much involved in coaching the team in the lead up to the Cavan qualifier in 2016. Everything else you say is correct. His input goes beyond the senior team. All Carlow teams at underage level play the same now." Has Poacher actually had that level of influence, that 'ALL' Carlow teams at underage level play that way ? The minors certainly don't and they are a key group in the development of the Game in the county. carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 02/06/2019 10:14:42 2189731 Link
Replying To supersub15: "Exaggerations and little porkies is not new reading for me, provocative sly hits like the one dished out to Sean Murphy didn't help us, admittedly there was no trade mark elbows flying, you are right though when you say the bans dished out to Carlow were severe. We all make mistakes, so please allow me to correct one or two of yours as in the last line of your post, "The critizing comments from the suspended coach are praiseworthy". I know that's what you meant so I put it right for you, and it reads a lot better. Have a good day. PS I have a gut feeling we will meet again in the qualifiers." super sub enjoy the summer. Your forecast was wrong - another good trimming for your lads today. Too bad so sad! See you next year hopefully Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 09/06/2019 17:06:57 2192228 Link
Supersub, what happened today? I though we had a re-fixture coming up? Must be a pitch opening somewhere is it? Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6344 - 09/06/2019 17:25:57 2192240 Link
Replying To Royalio11: " Replying To supersub15: "Exaggerations and little porkies is not new reading for me, provocative sly hits like the one dished out to Sean Murphy didn't help us, admittedly there was no trade mark elbows flying, you are right though when you say the bans dished out to Carlow were severe. We all make mistakes, so please allow me to correct one or two of yours as in the last line of your post, "The critizing comments from the suspended coach are praiseworthy". I know that's what you meant so I put it right for you, and it reads a lot better. Have a good day. PS I have a gut feeling we will meet again in the qualifiers." super sub enjoy the summer. Your forecast was wrong - another good trimming for your lads today. Too bad so sad! See you next year hopefully" Royalio11, you're mixing me up with some other poster, I never did forecast the result of Sundays game, so now that's out of the way, - - - You say, "another good trimming for your lads today" not at all, however some wise guy said at some point, "don't defend the indefensible", what he really meant was, "Do defend the defenceless." so without going too much into it, all I'll say is we were short a plethora of regular starters, no regular manager, and no coach, but that will all come good next year, the only doubt is SP, it's my guess everyone is working very hard behind the scenes to convince Steve to stay on and continue with his good work. Enjoy the summer you say, well the long range weather forecast predicts high pressure and high temperatures are almost guaranteed to come in over Dublin and by coincidence on the weekend of the leinster final, it's a fair warning to say the Dub's are well used to this and know how to deal with it, however if you are not used to it, you could very well be in for a good "roasting" or is it a good trimming, I'm not sure which, perhaps both. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 11/06/2019 21:28:49 2193695 Link
Replying To Jinxie: "Supersub, what happened today? I though we had a re-fixture coming up? Must be a pitch opening somewhere is it?" No Jinxie, you would want to try and keep up to speed, I happened to say back in a previous that, "I had a gut feeling we would meet again in the qualifier's" but some other wise guy butted in and pointed out, " You have a gut feeling we will meet again? Shows how much you know. Teams who previously played in provincials cannot get drawn against each other in qualifiers." So there you have it, its all about keeping up to speed, so when the leinster final is done and dusted, I assume then that Meath can't get another shot at it and be drawn against Dublin, ah no sure that can't be right, after all Dublin would still be unbeaten.?? supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 11/06/2019 21:38:39 2193699 Link