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Stephen Poacher

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https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/05/26/carlow-coach-poacher-infers-laois-leaked-video-which-led-to-bans/

Poacher Paranoia. He's doing Carlow no favours here. I say this as a neighbour who always wish Carlow well once Laois are out of the championship. I've so many connections,first cousins who played with Carlow etc. But this fella and his 1-13-1 structure and general attitude is really full of it.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 26/05/2019 13:43:30    2187602

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Whilst I initially had sympathy for the Carlow bans which I felt were fairly excessive (without knowing the full facts); having witnessed yesterday first hand how Carlow 'play' with late hits, high tackles, drag downs and punching players in front of officials - I can say that the thuggish behaviour is what led to the bans and there is nowhere for it in the game.

Too many players out there yesterday looking to have a scrap then play football. Hard to have any level of sympathy on yesterday's showing.

The victimising comments from the suspended coach are cringeworthy

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 26/05/2019 13:55:50    2187604

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Replying To BliainanÁir:  "https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/05/26/carlow-coach-poacher-infers-laois-leaked-video-which-led-to-bans/

Poacher Paranoia. He's doing Carlow no favours here. I say this as a neighbour who always wish Carlow well once Laois are out of the championship. I've so many connections,first cousins who played with Carlow etc. But this fella and his 1-13-1 structure and general attitude is really full of it."
The video didn't even lead to the bans. It just showed they were on the pitch talking to the ref. The ref's report on what they said to him is what resulted in the bans. Poacher didn't want to go into any detail on this and didn't deny anything in the ref's report. The video was pretty irrelevant to be honest, but even so, why would he have a problem with it showing what happened?
Take your punishment, move on and stop looking for bogeymen everywhere.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2046 - 26/05/2019 14:06:14    2187605

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Replying To Royalio11:  "Whilst I initially had sympathy for the Carlow bans which I felt were fairly excessive (without knowing the full facts); having witnessed yesterday first hand how Carlow 'play' with late hits, high tackles, drag downs and punching players in front of officials - I can say that the thuggish behaviour is what led to the bans and there is nowhere for it in the game.

Too many players out there yesterday looking to have a scrap then play football. Hard to have any level of sympathy on yesterday's showing.

The victimising comments from the suspended coach are cringeworthy"
...a Meath football fan bemoaning other counties playing thuggishly....

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 26/05/2019 15:22:12    2187641

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That's them boyos for you. No sense to the stuff they think they can get away with.
Referees have a lot to watch out for but by jays
Some of them have a lot to answer for with what they let go and what not let go.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 26/05/2019 15:54:25    2187651

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Replying To extranjero:  "...a Meath football fan bemoaning other counties playing thuggishly...."
Get over it.

Different game back in the 1980s.

Meath played hard but fair. Take a look at the Carlow they were an embarrassment to the sport

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 26/05/2019 15:54:56    2187652

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Carlow always played an attractive brand of football down through the yrs unfortunately under the present management they have become almost unwatchable same tactics now three yrs running no plan b no discipline .Then I suppose if you don't have discipline on the line your not going to have it on the field.

dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 26/05/2019 15:56:53    2187654

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Replying To Royalio11:  "Get over it.

Different game back in the 1980s.

Meath played hard but fair. Take a look at the Carlow they were an embarrassment to the sport"
I never mentioned the 80's.
It just amazes me sometimes how Ulster teams constantly get it in the neck, whilst in 20+ years following Wexford football, the 2 most "physical" teams I've seen are both from Leinster.

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 26/05/2019 16:57:00    2187679

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No discipline on the line, no discipline on the pitch, no point in whinging about it.

befair (Down) - Posts: 237 - 26/05/2019 17:09:45    2187685

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Replying To dubarra:  "Carlow always played an attractive brand of football down through the yrs unfortunately under the present management they have become almost unwatchable same tactics now three yrs running no plan b no discipline .Then I suppose if you don't have discipline on the line your not going to have it on the field."
That's it, the Haydens, Johnny Nevin, Willie Quinlan etc in the 1980s and 1990s great players.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 26/05/2019 17:11:20    2187686

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Posters from Meath, Wicklow and Laois concerned about discipline in Carlow ?

You lads sure dont do irony.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 26/05/2019 18:04:09    2187703

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After how carlow setup In yesterday's game I'd have very little sympathy for them in fairness to louth at least they tried to play football against a far better team,, why not at least give it ago,, don't expect too many at your nxt game

otherlad (Meath) - Posts: 137 - 26/05/2019 18:33:11    2187719

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Replying To befair:  "No discipline on the line, no discipline on the pitch, no point in whinging about it."
A Cara, can I respectfully suggest your knowledge of Carlow's discipline / indiscipline is, shall we say mini miniscule to say the least. go raibh maith agat.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 26/05/2019 21:02:26    2187807

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Replying To Royalio11:  "Whilst I initially had sympathy for the Carlow bans which I felt were fairly excessive (without knowing the full facts); having witnessed yesterday first hand how Carlow 'play' with late hits, high tackles, drag downs and punching players in front of officials - I can say that the thuggish behaviour is what led to the bans and there is nowhere for it in the game.

Too many players out there yesterday looking to have a scrap then play football. Hard to have any level of sympathy on yesterday's showing.

The victimising comments from the suspended coach are cringeworthy"
Exaggerations and little porkies is not new reading for me, provocative sly hits like the one dished out to Sean Murphy didn't help us, admittedly there was no trade mark elbows flying, you are right though when you say the bans dished out to Carlow were severe.
We all make mistakes, so please allow me to correct one or two of yours as in the last line of your post,
"The critizing comments from the suspended coach are praiseworthy". I know that's what you meant so I put it right for you, and it reads a lot better. Have a good day.
PS I have a gut feeling we will meet again in the qualifiers.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 26/05/2019 21:48:29    2187848

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Replying To carlovia:  "Posters from Meath, Wicklow and Laois concerned about discipline in Carlow ?

You lads sure dont do irony."
If the cap fits wear it and yes your right about discipline problems with the about mentioned counties. But name me a county that has no baggage.

dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 26/05/2019 22:10:02    2187866

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Replying To supersub15:  "Exaggerations and little porkies is not new reading for me, provocative sly hits like the one dished out to Sean Murphy didn't help us, admittedly there was no trade mark elbows flying, you are right though when you say the bans dished out to Carlow were severe.
We all make mistakes, so please allow me to correct one or two of yours as in the last line of your post,
"The critizing comments from the suspended coach are praiseworthy". I know that's what you meant so I put it right for you, and it reads a lot better. Have a good day.
PS I have a gut feeling we will meet again in the qualifiers."
After yesterday I'd be careful what you wish for.

dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 26/05/2019 22:11:38    2187868

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Replying To dubarra:  "If the cap fits wear it and yes your right about discipline problems with the about mentioned counties. But name me a county that has no baggage."
Meath

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 26/05/2019 22:33:28    2187876

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Replying To dubarra:  "
Replying To supersub15:  "Exaggerations and little porkies is not new reading for me, provocative sly hits like the one dished out to Sean Murphy didn't help us, admittedly there was no trade mark elbows flying, you are right though when you say the bans dished out to Carlow were severe.
We all make mistakes, so please allow me to correct one or two of yours as in the last line of your post,
"The critizing comments from the suspended coach are praiseworthy". I know that's what you meant so I put it right for you, and it reads a lot better. Have a good day.
PS I have a gut feeling we will meet again in the qualifiers."
After yesterday I'd be careful what you wish for."
I don't recall wishing for anything, I simply said I have a gut feeling, there is a difference you know.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 26/05/2019 22:36:00    2187878

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Replying To dubarra:  "
Replying To supersub15:  "Exaggerations and little porkies is not new reading for me, provocative sly hits like the one dished out to Sean Murphy didn't help us, admittedly there was no trade mark elbows flying, you are right though when you say the bans dished out to Carlow were severe.
We all make mistakes, so please allow me to correct one or two of yours as in the last line of your post,
"The critizing comments from the suspended coach are praiseworthy". I know that's what you meant so I put it right for you, and it reads a lot better. Have a good day.
PS I have a gut feeling we will meet again in the qualifiers."
After yesterday I'd be careful what you wish for."
I'll tell you what we are wishing for dubarra, you lot home or away in the draw tomorrow morning.

With so many now missing, ye'r about the only team we can be sure of beating.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1412 - 26/05/2019 23:16:40    2187895

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Replying To supersub15:  "Exaggerations and little porkies is not new reading for me, provocative sly hits like the one dished out to Sean Murphy didn't help us, admittedly there was no trade mark elbows flying, you are right though when you say the bans dished out to Carlow were severe.
We all make mistakes, so please allow me to correct one or two of yours as in the last line of your post,
"The critizing comments from the suspended coach are praiseworthy". I know that's what you meant so I put it right for you, and it reads a lot better. Have a good day.
PS I have a gut feeling we will meet again in the qualifiers."
What a load of spout.

"Provocative sly hits"? Murphy was his own worse enemy. He was pathetic as it took him 3 attempts to land a slap in Keoghan. An embarrassment to the sport of football and even boxing. End of his summer too but he probably wanted an end to his season as playing for hammerings cant be easy.

Take your medicine on this one. 15 points defeat flattered Carlow. They are classless; play a negative brand of defensive muck football and are not winning any fans.

I used to support the likes of Carlow. Give the sucker a chance. Root for the no-hoper. But I'll relish watching them get stuffed year in year out until they learn their lesson.

You have a gut feeling we will meet again? Shows how much you know. Teams who previously played in provincials cannot get drawn against each other in qualifiers.

Anyway after the thumping your boys took I'd say playing Meath is the last thing that team wants.

Pain of Championship 2019 will be over for Carlow soon. Carlow unrising but still moaning.

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 27/05/2019 00:29:01    2187920

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