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Replying To Helm82: "The days where fair hard hitting tackles are allowed have gone, too many players going to the ground too easily. If we want those days back then there needs to be a deterrent put in place to prevent it. I think the GAA's inability to deal with the initial issue has led to teams having to use the dark arts to gain an advantage." I thought Cavan players were too honest for their own good based on how it was refereed. If McKiernan had of made more of the kick from Grimley he would have got a red. Plenty of late hits that and leaving something on a man after what can be loosely described as tackles that were far from fair. Shields was at it a few times and eventually he got a reaction. If he hadn't of gone to ground Brady might have stayed on. Referee was reacting to how badly he thinks a player is injured in both cases which leads to players going to ground. If the rules were applied were a closed fit and late hits after the whistle or when the ball is away were dealt with it would mean players and managers change what they are doing. RoverTin (Derry) - Posts: 226 - 04/06/2019 14:35:55 2190522 Link
If it moves hit it. If it doesn't move, hit it until it does. This is championship. Chucky Armagh! Dessie_Cross (Armagh) - Posts: 142 - 04/06/2019 14:59:32 2190529 Link
Replying To Hardtimes: "I though at the time it was dangerous and deserved red. The more I see it the worse it looks. He has full view of the player in a prone position but draws on him anyway. Could have done some serious damage there. Whatever about arguing intent and giving the player the benefit of the doubt it's still red. At the time of the Cavan red I thought it was extremely stupid and deserved red. Looking back at the replay it's not as bad as it first looked but still red. Certainly not a flying elbow as some are trying to imply. It's a flailing arm and half catches him with the forehand and palm as he's in a low body position. Player made the most of it in front of referee so there was no real argument. Certainly seemed to be an Armagh tactic to ruffle Cavan players. Their red card was not the first sly knee dropped on a prone Cavan player on the ground either but definitely the most blatant. Certainly deserves a suspension." To be honest I actually thought it was much worse than the Armagh red card. The potential to hurt the player was significantly higher. The dropped knee was more stupid than dangerous. The famous ricey incident with the knees involved all his weight as ricey had his feet off the ground. (But when ricey did anything he gave it 100%) Grimley could easily have put that lad out of football for months the way he drew on him. ShinerMackey (Tyrone) - Posts: 14 - 04/06/2019 16:36:15 2190565 Link
Whats the story with Armagh's James Morgan? He comes out behind his man everytime, tackles well at first but then proceeds to absolutely bulldoze and get up on top of the poor forward with the ball giving away a free. Very funny to watch. Hes a good player if he could learn how to tackle properly. Definitely wouldn't like to be marked by him anyway! I could see why McGeeney took him off yesterday and put him back on in extra time. He was going to walk otherwise. Was very impressed with my neighbours Cavan. Didn't realise they were as good as I hadn't seen much of them lately. Was impressed with Killian Clarke, Moynagh, Rehill and McVeety. Jarlath Og Burns looks to be some propect for Armagh. What a player. Rian O'Neill didn't get the same space he got against Down. Good game I enjoyed it. Thought the ref handled it decent enough maybe apart from the black card for Cavans fullback. Wasn't an easy game to ref watching as a neutral. I don't think he was as biased as some Cavan people are saying. Will BBC show deferred coverage of the replay does anyone know? Grey_Wolf (Leitrim) - Posts: 235 - 04/06/2019 17:11:17 2190577 Link
Replying To Grey_Wolf: "Whats the story with Armagh's James Morgan? He comes out behind his man everytime, tackles well at first but then proceeds to absolutely bulldoze and get up on top of the poor forward with the ball giving away a free. Very funny to watch. Hes a good player if he could learn how to tackle properly. Definitely wouldn't like to be marked by him anyway! I could see why McGeeney took him off yesterday and put him back on in extra time. He was going to walk otherwise. Was very impressed with my neighbours Cavan. Didn't realise they were as good as I hadn't seen much of them lately. Was impressed with Killian Clarke, Moynagh, Rehill and McVeety. Jarlath Og Burns looks to be some propect for Armagh. What a player. Rian O'Neill didn't get the same space he got against Down. Good game I enjoyed it. Thought the ref handled it decent enough maybe apart from the black card for Cavans fullback. Wasn't an easy game to ref watching as a neutral. I don't think he was as biased as some Cavan people are saying. Will BBC show deferred coverage of the replay does anyone know?" Yeah BBC show deferred coverage 7pm on Sunday evening, they just announced it. Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2396 - 04/06/2019 18:11:43 2190596 Link
Replying To Loughduff Lad: "Yeah BBC show deferred coverage 7pm on Sunday evening, they just announced it." Armagh lack leaders. They had Down beaten on 3 occasions and similar v Cavan, but simply didnt have the balls, leadership or game intelligence to win. Good footballers but no leaders. On a road to no-where, same as the last 5 years. fatkeeper (Dublin) - Posts: 316 - 04/06/2019 20:01:07 2190633 Link
How do we see the replay going? Hard to call but I'd be expecting cavan to get over the line. I thought the last game was a fascinating tactical battle as well as the physicality. I think on their day Armagh or Cavan could give the winners of the other semi final a good rattle. thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 05/06/2019 19:48:41 2190980 Link
Replying To thegadfly: "How do we see the replay going? Hard to call but I'd be expecting cavan to get over the line. I thought the last game was a fascinating tactical battle as well as the physicality. I think on their day Armagh or Cavan could give the winners of the other semi final a good rattle." If Armagh can tweak a few things especially the kick outs then it's Armagh's game . Cavan are a poor enough team and I don't think they will get it it 3rd time lucky. FarneyLenny (Monaghan) - Posts: 110 - 05/06/2019 20:19:27 2190991 Link
Good luck to both teams, let's hope it is an even better game than last Sunday! It's going to be a tough future for both after this match, Donegal /Tyrone seems to be at a higher level and frequency of the qualifier matches will be a tricky route too! fifty (Mayo) - Posts: 108 - 05/06/2019 21:10:08 2191008 Link
Any word on Jarly Og Burns starting? Hear he was bad with a concussion when he came off last week, but Armagh are saying he didn't have one. Despite him playing on the opposite team, I'd love to see him on the field on Sunday, he's some player and would like to see more of him - but not to the detriment of his health. If he did have a concussion then Armagh need to tread carefully there, he needs more than a week... Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2396 - 06/06/2019 14:23:47 2191176 Link
Replying To FarneyLenny: "If Armagh can tweak a few things especially the kick outs then it's Armagh's game . Cavan are a poor enough team and I don't think they will get it it 3rd time lucky." Understand why some would say we're poor enough. I know we only beat Monaghan by 4 points but hope it was just an off day on our part. Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 06/06/2019 14:51:41 2191186 Link
It'll be another battle. Jarly will play. Armagh will hit hard. Who'll win? Haven't a clue. Armagh are capable of anything. Ref is a concern for me. That lad is rulya. There'll be a lock of reds. Dessie_Cross (Armagh) - Posts: 142 - 06/06/2019 17:39:19 2191234 Link
Replying To Dessie_Cross: "It'll be another battle. Jarly will play. Armagh will hit hard. Who'll win? Haven't a clue. Armagh are capable of anything. Ref is a concern for me. That lad is rulya. There'll be a lock of reds." That's the worry. Would be a disaster for either team going into an Ulster final. Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 06/06/2019 19:20:24 2191262 Link
Game will be dirty and cynical again from Armagh... they have to slow Cavan's kick outs, drop back, foul off the ball etc. Without that stuff they loose. All the need is this ref to be like last week's ref and let it go. Burns will play regardless of health...they appealed Donaghys red for gods sake... Jimjo (Cavan) - Posts: 65 - 07/06/2019 12:18:00 2191411 Link
Good to see Brendan Donaghy got his appeal turned down. gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 07/06/2019 12:26:02 2191416 Link
Replying To Jimjo: "Game will be dirty and cynical again from Armagh... they have to slow Cavan's kick outs, drop back, foul off the ball etc. Without that stuff they loose. All the need is this ref to be like last week's ref and let it go. Burns will play regardless of health...they appealed Donaghys red for gods sake..." And Cavan will continue to throw themselves to the ground.... Get off your high horse. Cavan are at it just as much as Armagh. Helm82 (Armagh) - Posts: 13 - 07/06/2019 13:02:49 2191430 Link
Replying To Helm82: "And Cavan will continue to throw themselves to the ground.... Get off your high horse. Cavan are at it just as much as Armagh." if you want any proof of Armagh's of the ball antics watch the game back between the 37-38 minute and watch what Armaghs number 21 does to mc vitty. no place for it in the game in my mind. its on the bbc iplayer if your interested. kitog (UK) - Posts: 14 - 07/06/2019 13:54:01 2191448 Link
Replying To Helm82: "And Cavan will continue to throw themselves to the ground.... Get off your high horse. Cavan are at it just as much as Armagh." funny ... look at Cavan diving !!! high horse !!!! as bad as each other!!!!.... blah blah blah. Nope pretty clear set of tactics... wonder will ye have yer man behind the goals throwing the ball out again ? and the powers that be also set against you and victimizing poor Donaghy ! Jimjo (Cavan) - Posts: 65 - 07/06/2019 14:04:13 2191452 Link
Any word on the lineup? thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 09/06/2019 14:07:03 2192151 Link
Well done Cavan on a superb performance today. Sure, we'll go in as big underdogs against Donegal, but we've improved a lot this year. Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 09/06/2019 18:34:53 2192293 Link