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Cavan Vs Armagh

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Quality wasn't great but it was close.

I'm obviously biased but I don't think I've ever seen a more 1 sided ref."
You've never seen Joe MCQuillan refereeing??

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1700 - 02/06/2019 19:00:38    2189894

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Replying To St.Conleth:  "You've never seen Joe MCQuillan refereeing??"
Touche

Armagh don't bring in the same money as Dublin tho so this one is harder to understand

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 02/06/2019 19:53:04    2189931

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Quality wasn't great but it was close.

I'm obviously biased but I don't think I've ever seen a more 1 sided ref."
You been drinking?

sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1053 - 02/06/2019 19:56:28    2189937

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Replying To sean og:  "You been drinking?"
Grimley's tackle on Gearoid McKiernan was a disgrace, an act of danger and raw recklessness that warranted a red card, he could've seriously hurt the lad.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 02/06/2019 20:50:51    2189972

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Ref was very harsh on Armagh. Gave Cavan very very soft frees. Armagh had to work much harder to get anything from the ref.

We through the game away in normal time, had the beating of Cavan and should of seen it out.
Extra time Cavan prob should have won it. Dont know what we were doing for that 5min period of refusing to go forward.

ArmaghAndProud (Armagh) - Posts: 32 - 02/06/2019 20:54:24    2189973

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Replying To ArmaghAndProud:  "Ref was very harsh on Armagh. Gave Cavan very very soft frees. Armagh had to work much harder to get anything from the ref.

We through the game away in normal time, had the beating of Cavan and should of seen it out.
Extra time Cavan prob should have won it. Dont know what we were doing for that 5min period of refusing to go forward."
You do realise the game was shown on BBC so everyone will realise you're talking complete BS?

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 02/06/2019 21:12:51    2189985

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Yes i know its on BBC. I hope you watch it back

ArmaghAndProud (Armagh) - Posts: 32 - 02/06/2019 21:17:51    2189987

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Was at game today, though ref did a good job
maybe black card on Cavan full back was
harsh, think aramgh should have won it

binman53 (Monaghan) - Posts: 104 - 02/06/2019 21:23:28    2189990

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Replying To ArmaghAndProud:  "Ref was very harsh on Armagh. Gave Cavan very very soft frees. Armagh had to work much harder to get anything from the ref.

We through the game away in normal time, had the beating of Cavan and should of seen it out.
Extra time Cavan prob should have won it. Dont know what we were doing for that 5min period of refusing to go forward."
Ah pal, are you serious? Armagh were very on the line, should have got more attention from the ref, Grimley especially lucky not to see red. Faulkners foul was never a black card, he was missed during the rest of the game. The tackling off the ball, high on the edge tackling and targeting of important Cavan players. Even the Armagh fans near me were saying they got away with lots. Ref was very poor

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2396 - 02/06/2019 22:05:53    2190007

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How was Faulkners a black card? Wild kick on Gearoid? Ref had a mare. Armagh let us have our kickouts and retreated back. Cavan pushed up on theirs . I agree with Armaghandproud. Armagh should of had it in normal time and we should have had it after extratime. Mackey kept us in it. Highly enjoyable game.

thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 02/06/2019 22:40:40    2190017

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Replying To MadgeKing:  "Cavan will win by 6 points plus. Armagh are a bit over-rated IMO due to the McGeeney factor and the memory of recent great teams they had in Ulster. Cavan look fresh and are more desperate for a final than Armagh.
Expect a scoreline of 1-15 to 0-11 or something like that."
Remind me not to ask you for next weeks lottery numbers, Mystic Meg you ain't .

sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1053 - 02/06/2019 22:45:13    2190021

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For the Armagh fans in denial. Listen to what Jim McCorry said after the game, you'll get it on the BBC website. Yous got a very nice referee today, any other day Faulkner would've stayed on the field and Grimley wouldn't.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 02/06/2019 23:05:10    2190031

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I enjoyed the game. Quality wise not the best but it was close and exciting.

Cavan will be annoyed with themselves - Armagh had a strong wind in the first half and didn't take advantage of it. They also kept the much talked about Armagh forward line to 1-13 over 95 odd minutes of football. O'Neill and Clarke only scored a couple of points from play and were well marked, something that may not happen in the replay.

I was a neutral watching on TV. Thought the ref did ok in general but he did make a few big errors. It wasn't a black card for Cavan player, it was a yellow. If the Cavan player got a red for a swing of the elbow/dangerous play then Grimley should have got the same as his was every bit as bad. Donaghey's was a red. No arguments.

I don't know about the Cavan fans but I was about to throw the remote at the TV with G.McKiernan's performance. His decision making was appalling all game. Kicking under pressure time and time again when players were in a better position. He is very talented as his Monaghan performance showed but he is very frustrating to watch and play with. Management needs to sit him down and have a word.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 03/06/2019 10:23:18    2190095

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "I enjoyed the game. Quality wise not the best but it was close and exciting.

Cavan will be annoyed with themselves - Armagh had a strong wind in the first half and didn't take advantage of it. They also kept the much talked about Armagh forward line to 1-13 over 95 odd minutes of football. O'Neill and Clarke only scored a couple of points from play and were well marked, something that may not happen in the replay.

I was a neutral watching on TV. Thought the ref did ok in general but he did make a few big errors. It wasn't a black card for Cavan player, it was a yellow. If the Cavan player got a red for a swing of the elbow/dangerous play then Grimley should have got the same as his was every bit as bad. Donaghey's was a red. No arguments.

I don't know about the Cavan fans but I was about to throw the remote at the TV with G.McKiernan's performance. His decision making was appalling all game. Kicking under pressure time and time again when players were in a better position. He is very talented as his Monaghan performance showed but he is very frustrating to watch and play with. Management needs to sit him down and have a word."
Can't make the replay. anyone know will it be shown on tv?

.tribute (Cavan) - Posts: 360 - 03/06/2019 10:54:39    2190106

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "I enjoyed the game. Quality wise not the best but it was close and exciting.

Cavan will be annoyed with themselves - Armagh had a strong wind in the first half and didn't take advantage of it. They also kept the much talked about Armagh forward line to 1-13 over 95 odd minutes of football. O'Neill and Clarke only scored a couple of points from play and were well marked, something that may not happen in the replay.

I was a neutral watching on TV. Thought the ref did ok in general but he did make a few big errors. It wasn't a black card for Cavan player, it was a yellow. If the Cavan player got a red for a swing of the elbow/dangerous play then Grimley should have got the same as his was every bit as bad. Donaghey's was a red. No arguments.

I don't know about the Cavan fans but I was about to throw the remote at the TV with G.McKiernan's performance. His decision making was appalling all game. Kicking under pressure time and time again when players were in a better position. He is very talented as his Monaghan performance showed but he is very frustrating to watch and play with. Management needs to sit him down and have a word."
Why wouldn't they be well marked in the replay? We'll have Faulkner back for the whole game, losing him in the first half changed the shape of the team as we had to move Killian Clarke to FB in his absence. Our defence has actually been very impressive this year, including from an attacking point of view.

The referee was abysmal, he was far from OK and his decisions favoured Armagh considerably i.e. giving Faulkner a black card and not giving Grimley the line. Crazy decision making.

Gearoid was good apart from the easy free that he sent into the sky and wide. That was our chance to win it, but look, I felt around the 50 minute mark yesterday that we were firmly dead and buried so I'm delighted to be still in with a chance the next day. I don't expect Martin Reilly to be so well shackled. We tried him in the FF line which didn't work out, so I'd say he'll be back to the wing the next day where he plays best.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 03/06/2019 11:16:49    2190112

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Watched on tv with the game interesting-overall a draw was a fair result. The Ref was from the same school as McQuillan. Completely wrong decision to give the Cavan full back who was playing well a black card. The young centre forward for Cavan was fouled numerous times with frees given against him. There were a number of occasions when the Ref gave decisions the wrong way -how the guys analysing thought he did a good job adds to incompetence.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 03/06/2019 11:17:34    2190113

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Thought the ref was very soft. Unfair on Armagh at times. Stifled the flow of the game. Saw nothing from Marty Reilly. Jarly Óg looks a player but Cian Mackey was the difference. He took the game by the scruff of the neck and if his last shot had pointed there was no way back for Armagh. Thought there was a total lack of composure from both sides especially Armagh. Indicates that the winner of this replay will not seriously challenge Tyrone or Donegal.

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 03/06/2019 11:46:30    2190123

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Replying To OGarmaile:  "Thought the ref was very soft. Unfair on Armagh at times. Stifled the flow of the game. Saw nothing from Marty Reilly. Jarly Óg looks a player but Cian Mackey was the difference. He took the game by the scruff of the neck and if his last shot had pointed there was no way back for Armagh. Thought there was a total lack of composure from both sides especially Armagh. Indicates that the winner of this replay will not seriously challenge Tyrone or Donegal."
Unfair on Armagh? Are you for real buddy?! Faulkner wrongly gets a black card, and Grimley gets a yellow for a pull that could've seriously hurt someone? Daft refereeing. It must be that strange six county solidarity thing you have going on if you think he was harsh on Armagh.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 03/06/2019 12:09:01    2190133

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Replying To OGarmaile:  "Thought the ref was very soft. Unfair on Armagh at times. Stifled the flow of the game. Saw nothing from Marty Reilly. Jarly Óg looks a player but Cian Mackey was the difference. He took the game by the scruff of the neck and if his last shot had pointed there was no way back for Armagh. Thought there was a total lack of composure from both sides especially Armagh. Indicates that the winner of this replay will not seriously challenge Tyrone or Donegal."
Armagh made a mistake taking Reilly's marker as he became much more involved in the play afterwards.
Reffing was the typical mixture we tend to get nowadays - the good and bad mixed. However, a number of players were guilty of trying to manufacture frees so it was difficult for him to get all the decisions right. Did Donnaghy get a straight red - it certainly deserved one. One other Armagh lad (in the middle third) was lucky not to see red.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 03/06/2019 12:17:44    2190137

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Martin Reilly was only quiet because he was pulled and mauled all day. As bad as the ref looked on TV, you really had to be there to see just how much he, and his linesman, let Armagh away with!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 03/06/2019 12:26:04    2190140

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