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Armagh's free scoring forwards will make more progress against a Cavan defence than the Monaghan forward line did! Youth and speed will stand to them! fifty (Mayo) - Posts: 108 - 22/05/2019 09:32:16 2186525 Link
Wouldn't be sure about that fifty we still have injury problems, I would say Cavan will be bookie favourites for this. Delighted the match is in Clones. sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1053 - 22/05/2019 12:20:35 2186586 Link
Ill go for a Cavan win... As long as that McGeeney fella is in charge of Armagh they're going nowhere in a hurry ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 22/05/2019 12:33:33 2186590 Link
Don't rate Armagh - I said it before the Down game. Down played with 14 men (best player sent off) for a full half and their keeper was black carded. This much hyped forward line isn't as good as some are making out. Grugan was very poor, Clarke maybe not as good as he was, Campbell didn't start, Nugent...Meh, Hall....Meh. Relied on a youngster in O'Neill, who was excellent and should have an excellent inter county career. There defence is poor. Against a good forward line it will break. Free taking very poor. Burns is excellent at midfield but is very young. wont play like that every week. Cavan were excellent against Monaghan. Up for it from the start. Monaghan were awful in first half so that has to be taken into consideration. They had months to prepare for Monaghan, local derby at home etc so they had a lot of positives going for them. They wont against Armagh. Il go for a Cavan win. Just. When is it on? Is it on TV live or deferred? The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 22/05/2019 12:50:13 2186597 Link
Replying To The_Fridge: "Don't rate Armagh - I said it before the Down game. Down played with 14 men (best player sent off) for a full half and their keeper was black carded. This much hyped forward line isn't as good as some are making out. Grugan was very poor, Clarke maybe not as good as he was, Campbell didn't start, Nugent...Meh, Hall....Meh. Relied on a youngster in O'Neill, who was excellent and should have an excellent inter county career. There defence is poor. Against a good forward line it will break. Free taking very poor. Burns is excellent at midfield but is very young. wont play like that every week. Cavan were excellent against Monaghan. Up for it from the start. Monaghan were awful in first half so that has to be taken into consideration. They had months to prepare for Monaghan, local derby at home etc so they had a lot of positives going for them. They wont against Armagh. Il go for a Cavan win. Just. When is it on? Is it on TV live or deferred?" June Bank Holiday Sunday in Clones at 4pm. Forget about the tele and come down! Best town in Ireland for a football match! cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 22/05/2019 13:21:04 2186606 Link
More nervous about this one than I was for Monaghan. We've had the measure of Armagh in recent years, and comfortably so. We've been playing at a higher level than them as well, in between divisions one and two, whereas they've hovered around divisions two and three. However, we have no right to be confident given our record in Ulster recently. Our biggest issue will be putting back to back performances together. Much is being made of Armagh's forwards and rightly so, they have some talented lads up front. Nonetheless our defence is strong, I'd expect Faulkner and McLoughlin to have the measure of Clarke and O'Neill. I'd expect us to dominate midfield as well with McKiernan. Up front we have improved, which was always our achilles heal. Mcveety was quiet by his standards against Monaghan, if he can up his game for Armagh, we should have enough to get a win. Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 22/05/2019 14:16:06 2186621 Link
cavan will be the bookies favourites for this and rightly so, but as the poster above said, i was more quietly confident going into the monaghan game. heres the tricky one for me, i always maintained armagh are over rated and had no chance of promotion to division 1 this year. i was right regarding promotion, but once this pairing was made i felt a bit uneasy. you cannot underestimate what a game like the Down game can do for a team. cavan have no record in ulster for 22 years you could say so we (supporters) can't be walking into this game expecting to win. I'm sure Armagh supporters will be feeling pretty similar to cavan supporters right now. i'll go for a cavan win though.its the first time in memory that we have a clean bill of health, micky seems to have them playing with a bit of fire aswell. when you consider the league cavan were highly competitive and a little naive/ unlucky in every game!! it should be an interesting game. !!!!! theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 22/05/2019 17:29:12 2186680 Link
Replying To theweanling: "cavan will be the bookies favourites for this and rightly so, but as the poster above said, i was more quietly confident going into the monaghan game. heres the tricky one for me, i always maintained armagh are over rated and had no chance of promotion to division 1 this year. i was right regarding promotion, but once this pairing was made i felt a bit uneasy. you cannot underestimate what a game like the Down game can do for a team. cavan have no record in ulster for 22 years you could say so we (supporters) can't be walking into this game expecting to win. I'm sure Armagh supporters will be feeling pretty similar to cavan supporters right now. i'll go for a cavan win though.its the first time in memory that we have a clean bill of health, micky seems to have them playing with a bit of fire aswell. when you consider the league cavan were highly competitive and a little naive/ unlucky in every game!! it should be an interesting game. !!!!!" Armagh over rated? We havnt won an Ulster game in years and have spent quite some time in div.3 so who on earth was it that was rating us?? sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1053 - 22/05/2019 20:10:34 2186710 Link
A Cavan win for sure. greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 22/05/2019 20:17:08 2186712 Link
Replying To sean og: "Armagh over rated? We havnt won an Ulster game in years and have spent quite some time in div.3 so who on earth was it that was rating us??" i was referring to their favourite tag for promotion this year. i probably should've clarified that a bit better. two teams with almost identical records in ulster and the league the last 7/8 years. armaghs relatively recent tradition will count for a lot. you have about 6 forwards that we'd love to have so its going to be a big challenge from our point of view, as i said cavan will be the bookies favourites understandably but closer inspection says armagh..... theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 23/05/2019 09:49:56 2186795 Link
Replying To theweanling: "i was referring to their favourite tag for promotion this year. i probably should've clarified that a bit better. two teams with almost identical records in ulster and the league the last 7/8 years. armaghs relatively recent tradition will count for a lot. you have about 6 forwards that we'd love to have so its going to be a big challenge from our point of view, as i said cavan will be the bookies favourites understandably but closer inspection says armagh....." We played Armagh twice in 2016 and beat them by a combined score of 25 points. Have they improved enough to close that gap? I don't think so. As much as I'm concerned that this is a potential banana skin for us, let's not hype Armagh up too much. I'd also be interested in what you mean by their "recent tradition"? Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 23/05/2019 10:37:22 2186811 Link
Replying To Cavan_Shambles: "We played Armagh twice in 2016 and beat them by a combined score of 25 points. Have they improved enough to close that gap? I don't think so. As much as I'm concerned that this is a potential banana skin for us, let's not hype Armagh up too much. I'd also be interested in what you mean by their "recent tradition"?" Dear God, you would think Cavan are a shoe in for Sam after reading that. It will be 2 very average teams fighting for a place in the Ulster final and whoever it will be will be serious underdogs against probably either Donegal or Tyrone. sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1053 - 23/05/2019 12:38:51 2186858 Link
I fancy Armagh for this. They were s hite against down but they still won. They will know were to improve and stefan Campbell and Andy murnin will give them the edge I think.. downtothecore (Down) - Posts: 349 - 23/05/2019 13:43:30 2186880 Link
Replying To sean og: "Dear God, you would think Cavan are a shoe in for Sam after reading that. It will be 2 very average teams fighting for a place in the Ulster final and whoever it will be will be serious underdogs against probably either Donegal or Tyrone." I have to agree with you Sean og! 50 50 game and whoever wins will be serious under dogs in final. blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 884 - 23/05/2019 13:44:27 2186882 Link
Replying To sean og: "Dear God, you would think Cavan are a shoe in for Sam after reading that. It will be 2 very average teams fighting for a place in the Ulster final and whoever it will be will be serious underdogs against probably either Donegal or Tyrone." No you wouldn't. I stated a fact, and it irked you. Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 23/05/2019 14:31:43 2186903 Link
Armagh aren't a terror but Cavan are no great shakes either. Anyone would think it was 1947. All Ulster teams are the same now. Robot gym built handpassers. Over and back to death and see who makes the least mistakes. Rian O'Neill has more talent in his big toe than half of these teams. If Armagh can't win this, its time for Tony McEntee to take over. Why isn't one of the most promising footballers in Armagh (from Cullyhanna so pains me to say this) Ross McQuillan on the team? You'd have to wonder what messing is going on. Dessie_Cross (Armagh) - Posts: 142 - 23/05/2019 14:38:47 2186908 Link
Replying To Dessie_Cross: "Armagh aren't a terror but Cavan are no great shakes either. Anyone would think it was 1947. All Ulster teams are the same now. Robot gym built handpassers. Over and back to death and see who makes the least mistakes. Rian O'Neill has more talent in his big toe than half of these teams. If Armagh can't win this, its time for Tony McEntee to take over. Why isn't one of the most promising footballers in Armagh (from Cullyhanna so pains me to say this) Ross McQuillan on the team? You'd have to wonder what messing is going on." What is it with you Armagh lads getting so uptight? Why would anyone think its 1947? Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 23/05/2019 14:58:00 2186915 Link
cavan will go in as favourites it may not suit them, plus too much hype in the county after that win. actually i would half fancy them if they got to final they would have no pressure and nothing to lose. think armagh will see this as a great chance to get to an ulster final dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 693 - 23/05/2019 15:51:48 2186933 Link
Replying To sean og: "Dear God, you would think Cavan are a shoe in for Sam after reading that. It will be 2 very average teams fighting for a place in the Ulster final and whoever it will be will be serious underdogs against probably either Donegal or Tyrone." I think you're over analysing what cavanshambles means. hes just making a point and there's no arrogance in what he's saying!!!! the favourite tag is coming from the league positioning of both teams and the fact cavan beat monaghan, thats it!!! both teams have a lot to prove and its going to be a very bitter pill to swallow for the loser. the recent tradition i mentioned earlier referred to armaghs success in the 00's. these armagh players grew up watching their county win ulster titles and an all ireland. our lads don't have anything like that to gauge themselves against at senior level. theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 23/05/2019 16:42:14 2186945 Link
Saw Rian O'Neill against Gweedore in the Club Championship. He was terrific - a real star of the future - despite a late red card as the game ran away from Cross. The Cavan fullback line will have to be on their toes for him and if Murnin is back fully fit it will be more difficult. A 50/50 game. opa01 (Cavan) - Posts: 503 - 24/05/2019 12:32:00 2187097 Link