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Replying To Douglas_44:  "Also, when Dublin has possession in injury time and game level, McStay said "the signal has come to hold on and slow it down, if they do that then they will have the 5 in a row" In the highlights last night, the last bit was edited out!!"
Well done for seeing that. When I spotted it I thought its amazing the trouble they go to for some things whereas the panel analysis at halftime was desperate stuff and it ran on and on.

conordee (Galway) - Posts: 386 - 02/09/2019 11:21:10    2231773

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The funniest bit was when Joanne asked Ciaran Whelan if Jonny pulled Clifford's arm on the second yellow, and Whelan said he didn't!! I wouldn't mind, but Whelan usually talks sense. Brolly, an ex corner forward, was idiotically claiming loudly at HT that Clifford fouled Cooper on the second yellow incident, another 'highlight' that.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 2296 - 02/09/2019 11:35:22    2231782

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Replying To Douglas_44:  "Also, when Dublin has possession in injury time and game level, McStay said "the signal has come to hold on and slow it down, if they do that then they will have the 5 in a row" In the highlights last night, the last bit was edited out!!"
I noticed that too. I turned to the wife and said, "what's he on about, the match is a draw?!". Co-commentators don't even know what the score is at the critical time of the match!

Unless he meant they'd get a draw and win the replay, but I doubt it.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1082 - 02/09/2019 12:08:25    2231809

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For the 1st time ever when given the choice between sky and RTE i turned over to sky at half time as soon as brolly started waffling, i actually couldnt believe what i was hearing.

Enough is really enough, theres no analysis, its just agenda settling and one upmanship.

I means there was so much about that game yesterday and once again Brolly and others make the aftermath not about the game and the main talking point to be about himself.

Its a joke at this stage, i thought the aftermath of the hurling final was bad with Sefflin but it jumped the shark yesterday.

Please, a revamp please, enough is enough.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 815 - 02/09/2019 12:20:27    2231819

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People have been saying for a good while we need neutral referees from neutral provinces for major matches like the All Ireland Finals but I will go I bit further we need neutral pundits on the Sunday game, I thought it was disgraceful for former Kilkenny players who were pundits on both shows to jump up and defend their county man who deservedly received a red card and 1 of them even claiming the Tipperary player went down very easy, that was completely wrong and unprofessional and then yesterday we had Whelan and wanna be dub Brolly saying Jonny Cooper didn't deserve to be sent off, they claimed it was a 50/50 ball and at best a free with Blue Brolly saying it should have been a Dublin free, the ref showed what went wrong, Cooper pulled Clifford for the penalty and David Gough has a reputation for giving frees for off the ball fouling or dragging a player before a ball is kicked into him, he done the same in 2017 Mayo v Kerry, Mayo got a few frees for the same antics Kerry were at, the same in Mayo v Donegal this year Michael Murphy won a penalty that at the time looked soft but on the TV replay he was dragged and a correct call, back to yesterday the 2nd foul where Cooper received his 1st yellow ref clearly showed a yellow and then showed 2 fingers indicating 2 fouls therefore a yellow, Cooper was on quicksand at this stage and any type of foul he would get the line and this happened, no argument the issue was the management, they should have made changes, both Cooper and Small were in serious trouble with yellow cards and ticking as well, 1 more foul and they were gone, for proper punditry please give us neutral pundits on the Sunday game so no Whelan, no Blue Brolly, no Spillane, no Tomas O'Se. The person I'd like to hear from is former Mayo manager and current Donegal coach Stephen Rochford, he is the only coach that has been able to put the game to the dubs for the past 5 years apart from the Kerry camp yesterday and his insight would be a learning curve for those watching at home instead of the same ranting by blue Brolly and co

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1388 - 02/09/2019 12:23:18    2231823

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Neutral pundits should always be used by any TV show imo.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12721 - 02/09/2019 12:28:36    2231824

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I honestly think if motm wasnt a thing the performance of McCaffrey wouldn't have even been mentioned. They go on and on about so much crap and the likes of McCaffrey who was absolutely phenomenal gets about 2 mins of discussion.

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 976 - 02/09/2019 12:36:30    2231835

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Neutral pundits should always be used by any TV show imo."
Agreed and whole for once I actually agreed with spillane yesterday he shouldnt be analysing a game where his nephew was playing it would be very difficult for him to criticise him

In saying that his nephew was excellent on introduction . No fear and he should be a very proud man

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 976 - 02/09/2019 12:39:12    2231837

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Replying To galwayfball:  "I honestly think if motm wasnt a thing the performance of McCaffrey wouldn't have even been mentioned. They go on and on about so much crap and the likes of McCaffrey who was absolutely phenomenal gets about 2 mins of discussion."
Yes Mccaffrey was phenomenal. So was Sean O Shea. Both still not even in their prime. Great players both. Brolly and Spillane should be shown the door on that show (though for the first time in my life I felt a the slightest tinge sorry for him). Keep Whelan but only for games not involving Dublin.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3739 - 02/09/2019 16:27:12    2231958

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Replying To riverboys:  "People have been saying for a good while we need neutral referees from neutral provinces for major matches like the All Ireland Finals but I will go I bit further we need neutral pundits on the Sunday game, I thought it was disgraceful for former Kilkenny players who were pundits on both shows to jump up and defend their county man who deservedly received a red card and 1 of them even claiming the Tipperary player went down very easy, that was completely wrong and unprofessional and then yesterday we had Whelan and wanna be dub Brolly saying Jonny Cooper didn't deserve to be sent off, they claimed it was a 50/50 ball and at best a free with Blue Brolly saying it should have been a Dublin free, the ref showed what went wrong, Cooper pulled Clifford for the penalty and David Gough has a reputation for giving frees for off the ball fouling or dragging a player before a ball is kicked into him, he done the same in 2017 Mayo v Kerry, Mayo got a few frees for the same antics Kerry were at, the same in Mayo v Donegal this year Michael Murphy won a penalty that at the time looked soft but on the TV replay he was dragged and a correct call, back to yesterday the 2nd foul where Cooper received his 1st yellow ref clearly showed a yellow and then showed 2 fingers indicating 2 fouls therefore a yellow, Cooper was on quicksand at this stage and any type of foul he would get the line and this happened, no argument the issue was the management, they should have made changes, both Cooper and Small were in serious trouble with yellow cards and ticking as well, 1 more foul and they were gone, for proper punditry please give us neutral pundits on the Sunday game so no Whelan, no Blue Brolly, no Spillane, no Tomas O'Se. The person I'd like to hear from is former Mayo manager and current Donegal coach Stephen Rochford, he is the only coach that has been able to put the game to the dubs for the past 5 years apart from the Kerry camp yesterday and his insight would be a learning curve for those watching at home instead of the same ranting by blue Brolly and co"
You are spot on about these pundits. They have lost the run of themselves in both codes. Get them out of there. Change the format or something. I got accused of being anti Kilkenny after the atrocious behaviour of Shefflin and Tyrell. If it was someone from my county I would also call them out. Cody let himself down also. It is always the refs fault. Cooper had the control in his own hands if he did not want to be dismissed. He continued to foul after getting ticked and yellow carded. Hogan had the control in his hands (or elbow) also.
It gets tiring listening to people saying so and so got away with one before or after and all we want is consistency. Big fat lie. Don't care as long as no calls on my team. You hear professional referees in hockey telling the players quit the b.s. because I am going to pull out one of you next time and I don't care if I get the right one. They settle down pretty quick and play the game. However the pundits need censoring or returned to regular spectators not given a platform on t.v. Is their carry on based on what they think Joe public wants to hear ? What the producers want from them ? Or some ego they themselves posses? Most of these pundits are players we admired during their playing days. I mean Spillane was a genus with the ball. Now he would make you want to vomit when he opens his mouth. The same of Shefflin and the rest of them.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 632 - 02/09/2019 17:20:32    2231985

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Replying To galwayfball:  "Agreed and whole for once I actually agreed with spillane yesterday he shouldnt be analysing a game where his nephew was playing it would be very difficult for him to criticise him

In saying that his nephew was excellent on introduction . No fear and he should be a very proud man"
His nephew was great, fair play to him. Can't be easy carrying that family name either.

But that kinda proves the point about neutral pundits. Imagine he was involved in some sort of controversial incident? To be fair to Pat he'd be some awkward situation!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12721 - 02/09/2019 17:50:33    2232004

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Yes Mccaffrey was phenomenal. So was Sean O Shea. Both still not even in their prime. Great players both. Brolly and Spillane should be shown the door on that show (though for the first time in my life I felt a the slightest tinge sorry for him). Keep Whelan but only for games not involving Dublin."
Brolly is the instigator. Should be shown the door.

O'Shea isn't in his prime but Jack is, 26, a minor in 2011.

What the last 2 all irelands show is pundits like Shefflin, Whelan etc are going to have trouble being neutral, most especially against their greatest rival. In era defining games, especially the Kerry v Dublin game. It's not fair to ask them on the SG and be neutral.

I felt Spillane, and Brendan Cummins did the best jobs at being neutral over the last fortnight. This from a KK man!

Defaulter1831 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 40 - 02/09/2019 18:05:43    2232014

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Replying To galwayfball:  "Dont mute it. Turn it over even if not to sky just dont have rte on. Lower the half time ratings for rte . AI final is the most expensive time to have an ad featured on rte but if the ratings sharply decline at half time the revenue will fall"
turned on the radio at HT can't be listening to Brolly anymore

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 305 - 02/09/2019 18:45:48    2232032

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Yes Mccaffrey was phenomenal. So was Sean O Shea. Both still not even in their prime. Great players both. Brolly and Spillane should be shown the door on that show (though for the first time in my life I felt a the slightest tinge sorry for him). Keep Whelan but only for games not involving Dublin."
Brolly is the instigator. Should be shown the door.

O'Shea isn't in his prime but Jack is, 26, a minor in 2011.

What the last hurling and football all ireland show is pundits like Shefflin, Whelan etc are going to have trouble being neutral, most especially against their greatest rival. Also in era defining games, especially the Kerry v Dublin game. It's not fair to ask them on the SG and be neutral.

I felt Spillane, and Brendan Cummins did the best jobs at being neutral over the last fortnight. This from a KK man!

Defaulter1831 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 40 - 02/09/2019 19:32:23    2232057

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Replying To MesAmis:  "His nephew was great, fair play to him. Can't be easy carrying that family name either.

But that kinda proves the point about neutral pundits. Imagine he was involved in some sort of controversial incident? To be fair to Pat he'd be some awkward situation!"
Believe me when I say I'm not trying to spoil the party here far from it, but would the same thing not apply to, say, Joanne Cantwell or Dec Cahill who are constants on the show, if / when, a family member, relation, extended family member of theirs was part of a winning / losing team under similar circumstances, both by the way are Dub's, far from being neutral.
Joanne by the way is quiet good at dropping a one liner and moving on.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 1949 - 02/09/2019 20:05:36    2232068

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Watched both the live coverage and SG show today. Found both entertaining in general but have same old gripe with the camerawork on kick outs. Considering how important the kick outs are (and very much so yesterday), incredible that RTE still choose to show a replay at the expense of seeing a kick out. All fans love to see the battle for fielding at the kick outs...

Dinosbar&grill (Dublin) - Posts: 23 - 02/09/2019 20:09:42    2232069

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I still can't believe the ridiculous punditry about the Cooper incident. It was almost as if it was a school ground game by Whelan and Brolly to annoy the hell out of Pat Spillane and say it should be a free out and not a yellow card offence. Except in this case one million people were watching it.
There is no enjoyment in the constant interruptions by Joe Brolly and the extraordinary length of time it takes him to get an observation across.
The only reason I watched the punditry yesterday was hearing Brolly saying 'stop patting me' to Spillane. I thought Spillane might finally snap and let fly but he's too cute to do that. Makes Brolly look even worse.
I wouldn't mind but Brolly can be a brilliant and thoughtful writer in his columns.

Thelonesomegoose (Leitrim) - Posts: 204 - 02/09/2019 20:34:42    2232080

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I liked Ciaran Whelan until yesterday. What he came out with was outrageous really when you watch it back. Should never be allowed in when Dublin are playing after that.

johnterry (Galway) - Posts: 297 - 02/09/2019 20:42:53    2232084

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RTE need to get rid of Brolly and bring in Martin McHugh, that man knows his football

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 765 - 02/09/2019 21:09:31    2232099

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "RTE need to get rid of Brolly and bring in Martin McHugh, that man knows his football"
That would make too much sense unfortunately.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 752 - 02/09/2019 22:08:59    2232123

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