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Replying To midlands:  "Pat Spillane said it would be a shame if a player missed an all-Ireland final over a black card. And I thought Pat was all in favour of punishing cynical play. Don't worry Pat - O'Brien will be let play against the Dubs."
Wheres he from ? What would you expect !!!

murphy32 (USA) - Posts: 13 - 12/08/2019 04:03:34    2224414

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Replying To midlands:  "Pat Spillane said it would be a shame if a player missed an all-Ireland final over a black card. And I thought Pat was all in favour of punishing cynical play. Don't worry Pat - O'Brien will be let play against the Dubs."
Wheres he from ? What would you expect ? Would he have said the same thing about Dermot Connolly !!!

murphy32 (USA) - Posts: 13 - 12/08/2019 04:05:04    2224415

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The one against Meath was a deliberate body check. He changed his run to hit a Meath runner coming out of defence. It was clear, deliberate and cynical.

2 minutes later a Meath player got a black card for a lesser collision. Both black cards should be rescinded if O'Brien gets off.

Although O'Briens black card was a blatant black card as per the letter of the law; I suspect that he will get off as it wasnt a pull down for a scoring opportunity/ or it wasnt a foot trip/ and it was in the Kerry half. The Meath black card has the most ambiguity as he will argue that he had no reason to be cynical and it was accidental.

The suspension should stand. But he will get off as black cards are a farce and the GAA are becoming a farce when it comes the bans.

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 718 - 12/08/2019 07:27:15    2224420

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Replying To ballydalane:  "The three lads on the Sunday Game tonight seem to think o'Brien will get off."
A Kerry footballer being denied to play in an All Ireland, never! If it were a Galway hurler against Tipp, well then....

baire (Galway) - Posts: 772 - 12/08/2019 08:29:17    2224435

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Replying To IamDonegal:  "How is it harsh?

It was brought in because of a rugby tackle on Conor McManus.

If the black card has any credibility left he wont play"
I only saw the previous 2 blacks last night, 1 black was from a game last February now I'll admit he didn't look good there and was rightly sent off for a finished but the incident was dealt with on that occasion. The blackcard against Meath was probably a blackcard too and yesterday he didn't need to do it. My point is I think blackcards should not carry during the season, I just feel myself if Stephen O'Brien misses the all Ireland final it would a harsh way to lose out, like I'm sure you would too if it was Michael Murphy and Donegal going into an all Ireland final.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 522 - 12/08/2019 09:52:33    2224473

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Replying To baire:  "A Kerry footballer being denied to play in an All Ireland, never! If it were a Galway hurler against Tipp, well then...."
or what about a Waterford Hurler missing out on a semi-Final against Cork.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1213 - 12/08/2019 10:35:17    2224509

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Of course O Brien should get off on appeal as every other player seems to... Remember Dermott Connolly played in an All Ireland Final after getting a straight red in the semi but on appeal got it overturned even though video evidence clearly showed him striking his opponent ... The GAA set a precedent on that occasion that renders their rules worthless in my view...!!!

Sean.66 (Cavan) - Posts: 293 - 12/08/2019 10:52:13    2224523

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Sean Cavanagh, great player. His analysis is a bit insecure.

A sweeper should be bigger than Paul Murphy.. 'Colm is 6ft 4'. Oh great.
When Colm was on an all star tour he saw Brian Fenton 'running forever on an exercise bike'. How interesting.

In 2004 Colm O'Rourke said Sean Boylan should be allowed make his own decision regarding his retirement. Old school loyalty. Sean Cavanagh on the other hand thinks Harte should go. Fair enough, it's his opinion.. You never saw an ex Kilkenny player calling for Cody's head though when they were doing, relatively, badly over the past 2 years.

Colm and Sean..the Cavanaghs..like to be photographed with kids and wags it seems too. I can't warm to them.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 12/08/2019 19:10:21    2224841

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Replying To Sean.66:  "Of course O Brien should get off on appeal as every other player seems to... Remember Dermott Connolly played in an All Ireland Final after getting a straight red in the semi but on appeal got it overturned even though video evidence clearly showed him striking his opponent ... The GAA set a precedent on that occasion that renders their rules worthless in my view...!!!"
It's Diarmuid, not Dermott.

The precedent for getting off suspensions for All-Ireland finals was set long before Diarmuid Connolly got off in 2011.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12723 - 12/08/2019 19:16:43    2224843

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Replying To BliainanÁir:  "Sean Cavanagh, great player. His analysis is a bit insecure.

A sweeper should be bigger than Paul Murphy.. 'Colm is 6ft 4'. Oh great.
When Colm was on an all star tour he saw Brian Fenton 'running forever on an exercise bike'. How interesting.

In 2004 Colm O'Rourke said Sean Boylan should be allowed make his own decision regarding his retirement. Old school loyalty. Sean Cavanagh on the other hand thinks Harte should go. Fair enough, it's his opinion.. You never saw an ex Kilkenny player calling for Cody's head though when they were doing, relatively, badly over the past 2 years.

Colm and Sean..the Cavanaghs..like to be photographed with kids and wags it seems too. I can't warm to them."
Running forever on an exercise bike!!

Now I know the reason Fenton demonstrates super fitness levels, the freakish ability to run on a bike.

Sean was was just highlighting that even in their down time certain players always strive for more ti gain the little edges that take you from good to great. Fenton doesn't just show up and play the way he does. He works his arse off.

Who they get pictures taken with is surely their business. Petty comment IMO.

DLlegends (Donegal) - Posts: 483 - 12/08/2019 19:49:17    2224863

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Replying To BliainanÁir:  "Sean Cavanagh, great player. His analysis is a bit insecure.

A sweeper should be bigger than Paul Murphy.. 'Colm is 6ft 4'. Oh great.
When Colm was on an all star tour he saw Brian Fenton 'running forever on an exercise bike'. How interesting.

In 2004 Colm O'Rourke said Sean Boylan should be allowed make his own decision regarding his retirement. Old school loyalty. Sean Cavanagh on the other hand thinks Harte should go. Fair enough, it's his opinion.. You never saw an ex Kilkenny player calling for Cody's head though when they were doing, relatively, badly over the past 2 years.

Colm and Sean..the Cavanaghs..like to be photographed with kids and wags it seems too. I can't warm to them."
*running on a thread mill!! Even Brian Fenton can't manage running on an exercise bike! Though he probably can run on water.

Defaulter1831 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 40 - 12/08/2019 19:57:21    2224868

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Replying To Sean.66:  "Of course O Brien should get off on appeal as every other player seems to... Remember Dermott Connolly played in an All Ireland Final after getting a straight red in the semi but on appeal got it overturned even though video evidence clearly showed him striking his opponent ... The GAA set a precedent on that occasion that renders their rules worthless in my view...!!!"
Is that this Connolly incident where the Donegal player takes a dive holding his face after getting pushed in the shoulder? No player should miss an AI final for that.

https://youtu.be/o8kzJ0yLcWs

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4033 - 12/08/2019 20:16:34    2224875

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Replying To IamDonegal:  "How is it harsh?

It was brought in because of a rugby tackle on Conor McManus.

If the black card has any credibility left he wont play"
Just for the record. The black card was voted in before Swann cavanagh rugby tackled Conor MCManus. You've been watching too much of the Sunday Game.

You'd have to feel for Stephen O brien, to miss out on an all Ireland final because of a black card picked up in february is just wrong. Cards shouldn't carry across unconnected competitions.

The reality is all the cards were definite blacks - the one v Meath is an NFL style blocking run.
O Brien was foolish to pick up the third v Tyrone

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 781 - 12/08/2019 20:50:19    2224890

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Replying To DLlegends:  "Running forever on an exercise bike!!

Now I know the reason Fenton demonstrates super fitness levels, the freakish ability to run on a bike.

Sean was was just highlighting that even in their down time certain players always strive for more ti gain the little edges that take you from good to great. Fenton doesn't just show up and play the way he does. He works his arse off.

Who they get pictures taken with is surely their business. Petty comment IMO."
So what. I'd say Brendan Murphy of Carlow probably does the same amount of running but more bull about the bigger counties. Cavanagh is painfull to listen to.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 12/08/2019 21:29:31    2224910

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Replying To avonali:  "or what about a Waterford Hurler missing out on a semi-Final against Cork."
No-Conor Gleeson- All Ireland V Galway or John Mullane, who took his punishment like a real and did not appeal

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2285 - 13/08/2019 08:35:35    2225006

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From 2020 they should have a statute of limitations for appeals. None of this disciplinary points accumulating and it's grand but if an infringement in a later game might put them out of a big game they're all over checking previous cards with a 'never was a card' story. Appeal the ruling within a couple of weeks or never. If it 'never was a card's in February then appeal it then. Should be too late in August to retrospectively decide it was unfair.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5498 - 13/08/2019 10:12:14    2225034

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Replying To BliainanÁir:  "Sean Cavanagh, great player. His analysis is a bit insecure.

A sweeper should be bigger than Paul Murphy.. 'Colm is 6ft 4'. Oh great.
When Colm was on an all star tour he saw Brian Fenton 'running forever on an exercise bike'. How interesting.

In 2004 Colm O'Rourke said Sean Boylan should be allowed make his own decision regarding his retirement. Old school loyalty. Sean Cavanagh on the other hand thinks Harte should go. Fair enough, it's his opinion.. You never saw an ex Kilkenny player calling for Cody's head though when they were doing, relatively, badly over the past 2 years.

Colm and Sean..the Cavanaghs..like to be photographed with kids and wags it seems too. I can't warm to them."
You actually criticising a player looking for a photo with his wife and kid in his last game at croke park. Strange world we live in.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 227 - 13/08/2019 10:32:56    2225044

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Just to clarify- it is Tipperary v Kilkenny in the All-Ireland final today, isn't it?

Just got confused there after turning over from TG4 to RTE, and there they are talking about a Dublin v Cork match from six years ago...

streaker (Galway) - Posts: 352 - 18/08/2019 14:37:33    2226993

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So the ref is mic'd up today but only the RTE producer will hear what he's saying as they aren't broadcasting it. What's the point in that?

Thelonesomegoose (Leitrim) - Posts: 204 - 18/08/2019 14:52:11    2226997

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Replying To Thelonesomegoose:  "So the ref is mic'd up today but only the RTE producer will hear what he's saying as they aren't broadcasting it. What's the point in that?"
Producer will keep the commentators informed I presume.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4033 - 18/08/2019 15:02:00    2227004

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