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Replying To lady_gaagaa:  "Game was certainly lost in the first half. Looked like we were still in a warmup. Pedestrian in possession once we worked it to halfway, allowed Laois set up their defence every time so we struggled to get in behind them. Some poor decision making and unforced errors also.

I think we played in to their hands second half. They were wasting lots of time playing around with the ball to protect their lead and Westmeath players just stood off them. Their main threat was O'Carroll inside and felt we allowed Laois too much space to work it closer so they could feed O'Carroll inside. We should have been pressing them much further up the pitch.

Poor match overall. Laois weren't great either tbh and will struggle massively against Meath if they don't up their game. Decent showing from some of the Westmeath backs who looked hungry for work. Some of the bigger names went missing however."
Just not at the races it all comes down year after year managers wrapping players in cotton wool and not allowing them to play with their clubs you can stain all you like .
Qualifiers a joke as going nowhere start the club championship.

nearlymadeit (Westmeath) - Posts: 76 - 26/05/2019 18:55:54    2187737

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Big names again went hiding again when it mattered. Without naming players; it's hard to understand how 2/3 of the starting 15 keep getting their place despite offering very little. Some very selfish play again up front today. Near the end O'Toole was free and had an open point but our player in possession wouldn't pass to him when he certainly would have put it over to make it a draw match. Who knows what would have happened then!

Matthew (None) - Posts: 916 - 26/05/2019 21:24:16    2187835

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Terrible from start to finish today. Couple of questionable starters and substitutions were wrong. Felt management were poor today. Last 10 minutes of the game, we're 3 points down and we allow Laois keep possession in their own 45 without even attempting to get near them, not good enough. Decision making was poor and appeared to be a lot of selfish play. A couple of big players failed to stand up today.

Hard to take positives from today but I felt the a number of the backs played well today and in particular Kevin Maguire and Killian Daly. 12 points isn't a terrible score to concede but once we get outside of our own 45 we look very poor.

westmeathman99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 38 - 26/05/2019 22:50:05    2187884

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We seemed a half yard off pace most of game. A lot of simple turnovers in first half. Poor shot choice and some bad luck in second half stopped us getting a draw. Not much life in our forwards.
Laois deserved winners on day.

wonit1time (Westmeath) - Posts: 450 - 27/05/2019 08:03:39    2187942

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Thought Maguire, Sayeh, Daly, Lynch and O'Toole had decent games with the 3 backs I named the best of the lot. Martin had a decent showing second half when moved to defence and Loughlin looked threatening when he came on. Some sub par performances from the rest of the team with a couple of those clearly not cut out for inter county football. Shocking thing is that as bad as the team played we still had enough chances to win it.

Waterford it is in the qualifiers.

lady_gaagaa (Westmeath) - Posts: 74 - 27/05/2019 09:06:53    2187959

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Replying To lady_gaagaa:  "Thought Maguire, Sayeh, Daly, Lynch and O'Toole had decent games with the 3 backs I named the best of the lot. Martin had a decent showing second half when moved to defence and Loughlin looked threatening when he came on. Some sub par performances from the rest of the team with a couple of those clearly not cut out for inter county football. Shocking thing is that as bad as the team played we still had enough chances to win it.

Waterford it is in the qualifiers."
nice draw this morning but the mindset has to change . we cannot expect to let teams get a head start of 5 or 6 points and come back . the team has some lovely footballers but they have to be allowed play . the decision not to start luke loughlin was baffling . it seems as though this management do not want a player with lukes flair . this as i said is a good draw but we have to go out and put in a much better performance

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1198 - 27/05/2019 11:25:57    2188047

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The most worrying thing for me was the amount times a westmeath man ran on his own with the ball. There never seemed to be any support runners who could read where a team mate was going and run hard to support them. The exception being O'Toole who ran a few lovely loops and could have scored more. Maguire had a good game and despite the poor performance if Corroon had got the goal in the second half I think we would have won.

Juniorbleague (Westmeath) - Posts: 31 - 27/05/2019 12:23:56    2188076

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Replying To Juniorbleague:  "The most worrying thing for me was the amount times a westmeath man ran on his own with the ball. There never seemed to be any support runners who could read where a team mate was going and run hard to support them. The exception being O'Toole who ran a few lovely loops and could have scored more. Maguire had a good game and despite the poor performance if Corroon had got the goal in the second half I think we would have won."
I agree. Can't fault the runners though. Daly, Sayeh and Maguire in particular made many good runs off the shoulder and at pace. Problem was they rarely had options ahead of them. Never mind a blanket of Laois defenders. There was a blanket of stationery Westmeath players in front of the runners. Very often meant an isolated Westmeath player going in to contact and getting turned over or having to go the whole way back in to defence with it.

lady_gaagaa (Westmeath) - Posts: 74 - 27/05/2019 14:21:23    2188140

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Woeful stuff. Let the club championships get back up and running now.

The_Biler (Westmeath) - Posts: 84 - 27/05/2019 15:53:52    2188188

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Replying To The_Biler:  "Woeful stuff. Let the club championships get back up and running now."
I didn't see you write once on this when the lads were going well and won the league, where was your comment to say well done then ? But your very quick to kick them when there down with your "woeful stuff " and "let the club championship start ". They have given us more good days then bad this year. You have the love the keyboard warriors.

ear2ground (Westmeath) - Posts: 79 - 27/05/2019 19:52:49    2188287

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Hopefully the lads will be allowed play some attacking football for the remainder of the championship, we were never gonna win Leinster and we're not going to win an All Ireland so why not respect the fans who pay hard earned money to go and watch the games. Longford scored 1-8 into the same first half goals that Westmeath shot a miserable 2 points into....why...because Longford played football...not basketball.

stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 389 - 28/05/2019 13:28:15    2188496

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Don't kick lads when they're down and all that but seriously , that game was painful to watch ! Absolutely no attacking threat, 4 points from play after playing 35 mins with a category 3 hurricane behind them.

dakid (Australia) - Posts: 241 - 28/05/2019 18:59:22    2188590

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Poor enough affair unfortunately however if we are honest we were never going to win Leinster, Nice draw we got so hopefully get a run in the qualifiers.. these are a hard working bunch of lads that deserve our support now more than ever.

Paddyfla19 (Westmeath) - Posts: 110 - 29/05/2019 06:10:46    2188704

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Replying To ear2ground:  "I didn't see you write once on this when the lads were going well and won the league, where was your comment to say well done then ? But your very quick to kick them when there down with your "woeful stuff " and "let the club championship start ". They have given us more good days then bad this year. You have the love the keyboard warriors."
More good days than bad?? An O'Byrne cup which we haven't won since 1987. Smaller counties such as Louth have won it since we last won. Even a college team managed to win it since we last did. Big deal!! And a mediocre Division 3?? Lets face it if Laois were tuned in at all in the league final and put 1/4 of their wides over or that goal miss from 3 yards out they would have won. 4 points from play in 70 minutes in Tullamore, and the wind was being used as an excuse.

Longford who ended up mid table in Div3 put up a far better showing against Kildare, a division above them, 9 league places above them actually. 4 of Longfords 3-15 came from frees. The contrast is actually disturbing.

The_Biler (Westmeath) - Posts: 84 - 29/05/2019 16:14:31    2188888

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Replying To The_Biler:  "More good days than bad?? An O'Byrne cup which we haven't won since 1987. Smaller counties such as Louth have won it since we last won. Even a college team managed to win it since we last did. Big deal!! And a mediocre Division 3?? Lets face it if Laois were tuned in at all in the league final and put 1/4 of their wides over or that goal miss from 3 yards out they would have won. 4 points from play in 70 minutes in Tullamore, and the wind was being used as an excuse.

Longford who ended up mid table in Div3 put up a far better showing against Kildare, a division above them, 9 league places above them actually. 4 of Longfords 3-15 came from frees. The contrast is actually disturbing."
lets just be clear . against waterford it will be the same robotic system . this manager is an ultra defensive one . on this occasion it will suffice as the opposition will be poor . but this form of defensive attitude gets found out quickly . a good forward like luke loughlin will never shine on this team because he will not be allowed to . bleak prospect but they will beat waterford

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1198 - 29/05/2019 19:19:52    2188942

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Westmeath senior team is getting weaker every year. No disrespect to any of the players, they are all good footballers but collectively not got enough to beat a top 8 team even on their best day. Probably 5 or 6 top quality players short. The current group despite their best efforts are going nowhere fast regardless of who trains them. A manager cant teach a 20something yr old how to kick a point or sidestep a player etc...So it's time the club championship becomes the priority, interest levels in the game MIGHT come back in the county if club championship is run right.
Traditionally we are not a strong gaa county at all, we had one good group of lads for a 10yr period and it has fallen to sh#t since..At the moment there is very little interest toward supporting our county team as evident from the lack of activity on this platform...Something needs to change...

borisdblade (Westmeath) - Posts: 118 - 30/05/2019 20:31:46    2189221

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We now have a home grown manager which everybody wanted but everyone new the type of game plan he sets out to play, played a challenge game against monaghan a week before laois game and supposed to hold double training the whole week no wonder team looked Tired . And now wants to give the qualifiers a good go at it . Mick is right to say that we probably will beat a poor Waterford team but thats it in a nutshell .

nearlymadeit (Westmeath) - Posts: 76 - 30/05/2019 21:50:40    2189242

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We now have a home grown manager which everybody wanted but everyone new the type of game plan he sets out to play, played a challenge game against monaghan a week before laois game and supposed to hold double training the whole week no wonder team looked Tired . And now wants to give the qualifiers a good go at it . Mick is right to say that we probably will beat a poor Waterford team but thats it in a nutshell .

nearlymadeit (Westmeath) - Posts: 76 - 30/05/2019 21:51:02    2189243

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Let`s face it. The qualifiers are a waste of time and money.

jfd (Westmeath) - Posts: 180 - 31/05/2019 09:37:55    2189310

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Replying To nearlymadeit:  "We now have a home grown manager which everybody wanted but everyone new the type of game plan he sets out to play, played a challenge game against monaghan a week before laois game and supposed to hold double training the whole week no wonder team looked Tired . And now wants to give the qualifiers a good go at it . Mick is right to say that we probably will beat a poor Waterford team but thats it in a nutshell ."
You really are clutching at straws if this is your argument for the teams performance last Sunday but let's break it down for you. The lads played Monaghan 2 weeks before the Laois game so your point about the challenge game is irrelevant. As well as that the lads held double training sessions every week since the start of the year, including during the league when they had games every week and they seemed to get on alright in that without looking tired. So now what's the next excuse?

Iarmhi04 (Westmeath) - Posts: 27 - 31/05/2019 11:23:32    2189345

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