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The games can't be broadcast for free no matter who the broadcaster is. Even in the days of only 2 semis and final each for hurling and football, people had to buy a licence. Crew, commentators, analysts etc are professional. There are some games livestreamed on YouTube and Facebook for free but for quality so have to pay one way or another.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 27/04/2019 19:00:41 2180574 Link 4 |
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So they give the rights to rte for free?? Honestly man are you for real?? You do know the sell the rights to Rte too don't you?? . Gaa has to sell the rights for funding purposes, the rights are bought by rte out of license fee money, which you pay for anyway. Either way, it's six of one half dozen of the other.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/04/2019 19:17:23 2180576 Link 0 |
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Not at all, I do have sky, I find it great value, don't work for them , but they were prepared to pay for it so good luck to them, I find their analysis far superior to rte which is more about the pundits and their agenda than about the games.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/04/2019 19:20:41 2180577 Link 0 |
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You address factually incorrect. The sane amount of games are free to air now as before sky got contact. This means the games sky got are extra. TV3 games must have gone back to rte. Should any be behind a pay wall is a valid argument. I think the gaa have done a good balancing job. In any event I'm sick of listening to rte pundits. Very little technical analysis. All generalisations and sweeping statements. But that's a different topic entirely!"]Even if you said was true, which I don't think it is, Sky didn't invent these games. These games were a package available to me bought, they were going to be shown regardless of whether or not Sky exists or not. At the time TV3, as it then, bid for them. The GAA went for the slightly higher in bid. More money in exchange for way, way less exposure seeing as a tiny amount of people are watching these games on Sky. That's the reality, good luck to Sky but these games were going to be broadcast in anyways and there is an argument, anger whether or not you choose to acknowledge it, that more exposure is worth more in the long term than slightly more money up front."]He's right. There is extra game broadcast. So I will await for ur apology to me, stating that what I agreed with (didn't actually say it first). Was incorrect."]They're not extra games, they would be broadcast regardless in anyways. You know this is true. Catch yourself on."]There is more free to air gaa matches on TV now,then in the history of the gaa,this is fact not fiction,i don't like the sky coverage,i do watch it,but i turn down the volume but facts are facts."]There are more free to air games because there are more games. Sky entering the market has not created any extra games being broadcast. That is a fact. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 27/04/2019 19:34:07 2180581 Link 3 |
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You address factually incorrect. The sane amount of games are free to air now as before sky got contact. This means the games sky got are extra. TV3 games must have gone back to rte. Should any be behind a pay wall is a valid argument. I think the gaa have done a good balancing job. In any event I'm sick of listening to rte pundits. Very little technical analysis. All generalisations and sweeping statements. But that's a different topic entirely!"]Even if you said was true, which I don't think it is, Sky didn't invent these games. These games were a package available to me bought, they were going to be shown regardless of whether or not Sky exists or not. At the time TV3, as it then, bid for them. The GAA went for the slightly higher in bid. More money in exchange for way, way less exposure seeing as a tiny amount of people are watching these games on Sky. That's the reality, good luck to Sky but these games were going to be broadcast in anyways and there is an argument, anger whether or not you choose to acknowledge it, that more exposure is worth more in the long term than slightly more money up front."]He's right. There is extra game broadcast. So I will await for ur apology to me, stating that what I agreed with (didn't actually say it first). Was incorrect."]They're not extra games, they would be broadcast regardless in anyways. You know this is true. Catch yourself on."]You stated there was NO EXTRA games. There is. You made a big deal out of it. And pointed me out specifically, your argument is debunked. Don't try to deflect, just admit you were wrong."]I am not wrong though. Sky entering the GAA market has not been the cause of extra games being broadcast. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 27/04/2019 19:35:01 2180582 Link 3 |
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The people who cannot afford sky will probably have a free TV licence. So you want the older folk and poorer folk to miss out on matches? Does everything thing in life have to be about money. I agree that rte has its limits but if the gaa is about society rather than money sky would not be involved Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 597 - 27/04/2019 20:37:49 2180586 Link 0 |
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You address factually incorrect. The sane amount of games are free to air now as before sky got contact. This means the games sky got are extra. TV3 games must have gone back to rte. Should any be behind a pay wall is a valid argument. I think the gaa have done a good balancing job. In any event I'm sick of listening to rte pundits. Very little technical analysis. All generalisations and sweeping statements. But that's a different topic entirely!"]Even if you said was true, which I don't think it is, Sky didn't invent these games. These games were a package available to me bought, they were going to be shown regardless of whether or not Sky exists or not. At the time TV3, as it then, bid for them. The GAA went for the slightly higher in bid. More money in exchange for way, way less exposure seeing as a tiny amount of people are watching these games on Sky. That's the reality, good luck to Sky but these games were going to be broadcast in anyways and there is an argument, anger whether or not you choose to acknowledge it, that more exposure is worth more in the long term than slightly more money up front."]He's right. There is extra game broadcast. So I will await for ur apology to me, stating that what I agreed with (didn't actually say it first). Was incorrect."]They're not extra games, they would be broadcast regardless in anyways. You know this is true. Catch yourself on."]You stated there was NO EXTRA games. There is. You made a big deal out of it. And pointed me out specifically, your argument is debunked. Don't try to deflect, just admit you were wrong."]I am not wrong though. Sky entering the GAA market has not been the cause of extra games being broadcast."]If SKY analysts were so good how only 3% of viewers watched them in the All Ireland Final the year before last. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4342 - 27/04/2019 22:16:25 2180598 Link 0 |
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I have played the game and followed it winter and summer for well over fifty years. Quite simply what pundits say is only one mans opinion and I certainly am never agog about hearing what is only another mans opinion. I am well able to analyse any game I attend without help from any of those people.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4342 - 27/04/2019 22:22:21 2180599 Link 1 |
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Had you really to wait for Kieran Donaghy to tell you that. A fellow i met in the gym this morning mentioned exactly the same teams to challenge Dublin. only he replaced Donegal for Galway. I will go with the lad in the gyms opinion, although I am almost sure he never played football at any level.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4342 - 27/04/2019 22:29:19 2180600 Link 0 |
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Not everyone buys a licence as some get it free. The match will go on if you are there or not!! Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 597 - 27/04/2019 22:32:01 2180602 Link 0 |
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Don't subscribe to sky, got rid about 7 years ago. Yet still get to see all the games on Sky from the comfort of my house. Where there's a will there's an information superhighway! Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 27/04/2019 22:41:37 2180604 Link 2 |
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Ahh you lost the argument when you brought up the old folk. Here is one for you. What did the old folk do prior to 91?? With the fourth and only the fourth game between Meath and Dublin been the first non final /semi final ever shown. These games would not be shown if sky wasn't showing them. That is a fact. Tv3 have no interest in them rte have their allocation (which includes tg4 btw). So who is the magical mystery provider who is going to buy these rights??
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/04/2019 10:09:38 2180629 Link 1 |
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Sky and rte do not cover all games. Point is that all games shown on TV should be free to air. How can you conclude what you cloncluded Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 597 - 28/04/2019 12:59:25 2180643 Link 0 |
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Where do you suggest the GAA get the money that they currently get for broadcasting games? How would broadcasters survive without revenue from TV licence fees and/ or customer subscriptions? No more than myself you're a bit of an idealist, I'm a naive one, games should be free to view but someone somewhere has to pay for them. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 28/04/2019 14:49:52 2180659 Link 4 |
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Nothing is really 'free to air' though, you have to pay a yearly fee for RTE aswell. Granted the fee for RTE is cheaper than paying for Sky (although Sky is far better value for money given the range of sports available), but that seems to be the issue here, you're arguing over price not principle. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 28/04/2019 15:19:20 2180663 Link 1 |
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Rte can sell adverts to cover free to air . People who have a licence wavier do not have to pay. Not that many subscribe to sky gaa anyway Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 597 - 28/04/2019 16:11:29 2180672 Link 0 |
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All everyone has to pay a free v licence. Gaa is sold as community. If the has want to go professional then charge for TV rights Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 597 - 28/04/2019 16:14:59 2180673 Link 0 |
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TV3 has no interest in them despite the fact that they previously showed them and bid for them when Sky won the rights the 1st time. These games are being broadcast because the GAA had decided to sell the rights to them. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 28/04/2019 16:47:55 2180678 Link 3 |
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RTE still has broadcasting rights to the majority of Gaa games including most of the important ones and I find it very hard to Sky ever taking the majority of games, so what's all the anger about? Sky have been involved since 2014, this is 2019, this isn't a new deal, why all the anger now, has something personal happened to spark this outrage of what's going on? Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 28/04/2019 17:06:33 2180683 Link 0 |
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Have you been a sleep with Rip Van Winkle or something, this is not going away you know, now go back to sleep.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 28/04/2019 18:50:58 2180700 Link 0 |