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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "Really looking forward to this years connacht final between Galway and mayo in salthill."
Have ye given up already? In fairness I've never seen ye beat us in castlebar in championship but records are there to be broken....

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 9572 - 21/04/2019 08:49:06    2179710

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "Really looking forward to this years connacht final between Galway and mayo in salthill."
Strange. Ye have a serious chance. While Mayo look really good there is an outside chance the season for them could reverse 2016 and 2017 whereby then they played themselves into the campaign after a mixed league. This time they are on a high but no guarantee that will carry into Summer. Any of Galway Mayo or Ros could beat each other on a given day.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1492 - 21/04/2019 10:25:54    2179713

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Have ye given up already? In fairness I've never seen ye beat us in castlebar in championship but records are there to be broken...."
Whats the record? A poor run of results but we had gone longer without a win Salthill. You are probably too young to remember but up to 1992 Castlebar was happy hunting ground for Roscommon

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 2349 - 21/04/2019 16:38:11    2179750

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Replying To kiloughter:  "Strange. Ye have a serious chance. While Mayo look really good there is an outside chance the season for them could reverse 2016 and 2017 whereby then they played themselves into the campaign after a mixed league. This time they are on a high but no guarantee that will carry into Summer. Any of Galway Mayo or Ros could beat each other on a given day."
Agree, Mayo probably have peaked already, some effort put in since last October..Roscommon will cause them big problems

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 86 - 21/04/2019 16:52:14    2179754

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Replying To Belclare:  "Agree, Mayo probably have peaked already, some effort put in since last October..Roscommon will cause them big problems"
Horan has Mayo in an ideal position as it stands. He came in with the brief to oversee a transition and at the same time remain competitive if possible. His hope would be to integrate three or four players in year one, stay in the top league and reach the super eights. Of course there was some sabre rattling early on when he spoke of coming back to win an All Ireland but that was when preaching to the party faithful and he didn't stipulate when. To have won our first national title in almost twenty years while assessing a raft of new players means year one is already a success. He will hope, and expect, to reach the super eights but if he doesn't he will still take a lot of positives out of the year. Galway on the other hand are under far more pressure. Three years on from taking over from Mayo in Connacht they still haven't managed to reach an All Ireland final and anything less than a final this year will be viewed as another failure. They have had less than an ideal start to the year with injuries, club competitions etc, and Walsh, heading into the Championship, has to be unsure of what his best fifteen will be. They would expect to be a year or two ahead of Mayo at this stage and a Connacht tile should be a formality, whereas Horan has almost a free shot. Be interesting to see how Galway respond to the pressure.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 959 - 21/04/2019 21:49:51    2179779

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "Horan has Mayo in an ideal position as it stands. He came in with the brief to oversee a transition and at the same time remain competitive if possible. His hope would be to integrate three or four players in year one, stay in the top league and reach the super eights. Of course there was some sabre rattling early on when he spoke of coming back to win an All Ireland but that was when preaching to the party faithful and he didn't stipulate when. To have won our first national title in almost twenty years while assessing a raft of new players means year one is already a success. He will hope, and expect, to reach the super eights but if he doesn't he will still take a lot of positives out of the year. Galway on the other hand are under far more pressure. Three years on from taking over from Mayo in Connacht they still haven't managed to reach an All Ireland final and anything less than a final this year will be viewed as another failure. They have had less than an ideal start to the year with injuries, club competitions etc, and Walsh, heading into the Championship, has to be unsure of what his best fifteen will be. They would expect to be a year or two ahead of Mayo at this stage and a Connacht tile should be a formality, whereas Horan has almost a free shot. Be interesting to see how Galway respond to the pressure."
I think Galway will be judged more on performance and whether we play to our strengths. We could reach a semi final this year and get the Dubs again. If we were very competitive and lost, it certainly wouldn't be seen as a failure. It would be real progress on last year. A team can reach an All-Ireland final without playing very well, depending on the draw. If we managed that and were handily beaten without ever having a real cut, I don't think too many would be happy.
It's a fresh start for Horan as you said. The main issue however is that most of the nucleus of the outstanding team over the past 7 years are in their 30s. It'll be gradual transition though, which we've already seen a bit of. Most of those lads have plenty left in the tank.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 417 - 22/04/2019 10:41:14    2179802

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "Horan has Mayo in an ideal position as it stands. He came in with the brief to oversee a transition and at the same time remain competitive if possible. His hope would be to integrate three or four players in year one, stay in the top league and reach the super eights. Of course there was some sabre rattling early on when he spoke of coming back to win an All Ireland but that was when preaching to the party faithful and he didn't stipulate when. To have won our first national title in almost twenty years while assessing a raft of new players means year one is already a success. He will hope, and expect, to reach the super eights but if he doesn't he will still take a lot of positives out of the year. Galway on the other hand are under far more pressure. Three years on from taking over from Mayo in Connacht they still haven't managed to reach an All Ireland final and anything less than a final this year will be viewed as another failure. They have had less than an ideal start to the year with injuries, club competitions etc, and Walsh, heading into the Championship, has to be unsure of what his best fifteen will be. They would expect to be a year or two ahead of Mayo at this stage and a Connacht tile should be a formality, whereas Horan has almost a free shot. Be interesting to see how Galway respond to the pressure."
I would be happy with a Connacht win and hopefully progress to a semi and play to our potential. No pressure on Galway but a bit on KW if he is looking for an extension. Dublin ahead of the chasing pack still tbh.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1109 - 22/04/2019 13:11:08    2179815

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Pressure is on Andy, Colm, Donie, Ger, Seamie, Keith, David, as another year without Sam and I'd say this is their swansong.

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 86 - 22/04/2019 14:09:07    2179818

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "Horan has Mayo in an ideal position as it stands. He came in with the brief to oversee a transition and at the same time remain competitive if possible. His hope would be to integrate three or four players in year one, stay in the top league and reach the super eights. Of course there was some sabre rattling early on when he spoke of coming back to win an All Ireland but that was when preaching to the party faithful and he didn't stipulate when. To have won our first national title in almost twenty years while assessing a raft of new players means year one is already a success. He will hope, and expect, to reach the super eights but if he doesn't he will still take a lot of positives out of the year. Galway on the other hand are under far more pressure. Three years on from taking over from Mayo in Connacht they still haven't managed to reach an All Ireland final and anything less than a final this year will be viewed as another failure. They have had less than an ideal start to the year with injuries, club competitions etc, and Walsh, heading into the Championship, has to be unsure of what his best fifteen will be. They would expect to be a year or two ahead of Mayo at this stage and a Connacht tile should be a formality, whereas Horan has almost a free shot. Be interesting to see how Galway respond to the pressure."
Year one in Horan's 2nd term will not be seen as a success if Mayo don't reach the last 8 this summer. Expectations is now on both Galway and Mayo to reach the last four this August and its where I'd expect both to reach and make their exits from the championship and those exits won't due to pressure but because teams better than both will beat them IMO.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 2346 - 22/04/2019 14:34:38    2179819

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Whats the record? A poor run of results but we had gone longer without a win Salthill. You are probably too young to remember but up to 1992 Castlebar was happy hunting ground for Roscommon"
Derek Duggan kicking a point from what seemed like the Balla Road, another game when a Roscommon player wanted to bring the crossbar home. I think Duggan and Kevin Walsh played on the same Garda College team that won a Trench Cup. I remember the class Roscommon team of the 70s, they ruined many's a childhood Sunday for me. Seemingly Roscommon have no chance of winning Connacht, just like 2017. Hopefully Horan won't have our players too complacent and thinking a game at a time.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5009 - 22/04/2019 15:56:23    2179823

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Replying To Belclare:  "Pressure is on Andy, Colm, Donie, Ger, Seamie, Keith, David, as another year without Sam and I'd say this is their swansong."
Reading between the lines I think that swan song came and went two years ago. Now you get Andy saying something like it's not about winning an All Ireland any more it's more important to prove an inspiration for the next generation of Mayo youngsters. Chris Barrett said much the same thing a couple of weeks back. Mind you they certainly have inspired the next generation even if they didn't achieve their original goal!

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 959 - 22/04/2019 22:54:04    2179854

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