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Point being made by one of the Corofin lads about days between quarter final and semi final a ludicrous near 60 days , as someone who loves the club game I have to admit I'd forgotten who was left in the competition, there in is the problem, we've all moved on to sigerson Fitz gibbon and National league , dreadful state of affairs I know it's nothing new but god it's shocking

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 12/02/2019 18:41:43    2164938

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Point being made by one of the Corofin lads about days between quarter final and semi final a ludicrous near 60 days , as someone who loves the club game I have to admit I'd forgotten who was left in the competition, there in is the problem, we've all moved on to sigerson Fitz gibbon and National league , dreadful state of affairs I know it's nothing new but god it's shocking"
Exactly. Club championship should be closed off by year end. If weather interrupts fair enough carry forward to January. Sure the weather is as mild these days in Nov and Dec as it is in Jan/Feb so if that trend was to continue conditions would be less of an issue.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1947 - 12/02/2019 20:05:05    2164964

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Replying To kiloughter:  "Exactly. Club championship should be closed off by year end. If weather interrupts fair enough carry forward to January. Sure the weather is as mild these days in Nov and Dec as it is in Jan/Feb so if that trend was to continue conditions would be less of an issue."
Agreed it goes on away too long, about a 3 month wait from provincial finals to allireland finals .

Not fair on club players.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 12/02/2019 20:56:32    2164978

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It's ok for Fitzgerald to say that, between county, provincial and All-Irelands he must have over 20 club medals. I doubt there were many in Gaoth Dobhair or Mullinalaghta keen to play an All-Ireland semifinal a week or 2 after their provincial win. For a lot of clubs who get to this stage it's a once in a lifetime event and they should have the chance to enjoy it fully. I know Gaoth Dobhair have done lots of fundraising over the past 2 months, making the most of the excitement.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 12/02/2019 21:42:31    2164986

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Replying To Soma:  "It's ok for Fitzgerald to say that, between county, provincial and All-Irelands he must have over 20 club medals. I doubt there were many in Gaoth Dobhair or Mullinalaghta keen to play an All-Ireland semifinal a week or 2 after their provincial win. For a lot of clubs who get to this stage it's a once in a lifetime event and they should have the chance to enjoy it fully. I know Gaoth Dobhair have done lots of fundraising over the past 2 months, making the most of the excitement."
I agree. It's all very well to say it should be completed in a calendar year but how feasible is that? Even in a good year, it usually takes at least until the first Sunday in December to complete all of the provincial finals - so you would basically have to plan to have the semi-finals and finals on the second and third Sundays in December and then hope like hell that there will be no need for any replays. And it is simply not possible to guarantee that the provincial championships are completed any sooner because county championships are delayed for so long due to the demands of inter-county teams. In the end, it all comes down to the fact that county players are unavailable to their clubs for a huge chunk of the year - and there is absolutely no indication that will change anytime soon.

Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 996 - 13/02/2019 00:23:53    2165007

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Replying To Gaillimh_Abu:  "I agree. It's all very well to say it should be completed in a calendar year but how feasible is that? Even in a good year, it usually takes at least until the first Sunday in December to complete all of the provincial finals - so you would basically have to plan to have the semi-finals and finals on the second and third Sundays in December and then hope like hell that there will be no need for any replays. And it is simply not possible to guarantee that the provincial championships are completed any sooner because county championships are delayed for so long due to the demands of inter-county teams. In the end, it all comes down to the fact that county players are unavailable to their clubs for a huge chunk of the year - and there is absolutely no indication that will change anytime soon."
I think if the semi finals and final were scheduled in December and they got put back a couple of weeks due to weather or whatever and finished in early January that would still be a better outcome for the players all round. Rather than having to train away all through christmas and January.

As it is now none of the players in those semi's will get a real break. County men will be managed back into county setups as soon as possible as championships start early May for most now, and the regular club man will have club leagues kicking off in April

Get it wrapped up early, ideally before Christmas, let the players have some down time rather than being dogged training through the winter

himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 13/02/2019 11:46:59    2165063

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Replying To Gaillimh_Abu:  "I agree. It's all very well to say it should be completed in a calendar year but how feasible is that? Even in a good year, it usually takes at least until the first Sunday in December to complete all of the provincial finals - so you would basically have to plan to have the semi-finals and finals on the second and third Sundays in December and then hope like hell that there will be no need for any replays. And it is simply not possible to guarantee that the provincial championships are completed any sooner because county championships are delayed for so long due to the demands of inter-county teams. In the end, it all comes down to the fact that county players are unavailable to their clubs for a huge chunk of the year - and there is absolutely no indication that will change anytime soon."
100%
St Patricks day final is the holy grail for all clubs anyway and to take that away would be further diluting the importance of the club championships.- ( the cynic in me would think that is the plan anyway)

Keep it the way it is or re-jig the county all-ireland competitions so that players are available for their clubs. Stop making clubs suffer for their own success at producing county committed players .

Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 13/02/2019 12:08:31    2165070

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Replying To himachechy:  "I think if the semi finals and final were scheduled in December and they got put back a couple of weeks due to weather or whatever and finished in early January that would still be a better outcome for the players all round. Rather than having to train away all through christmas and January.

As it is now none of the players in those semi's will get a real break. County men will be managed back into county setups as soon as possible as championships start early May for most now, and the regular club man will have club leagues kicking off in April

Get it wrapped up early, ideally before Christmas, let the players have some down time rather than being dogged training through the winter"
You mustn't have seen the goings on in Gaoth Dobhair the week after their provincial win or over the Christmas if you think they had no down time. Arrange the games for early January and Christmas is effectively cancelled for these lads.
Clubs like Corofin also usually have a big squad to pick from so a couple of injuries picked up playing every 2nd week is no great issue, for the smaller clubs injuries are a huge problem. With the long break all teams should be at full strength and no lad is at risk of missing the biggest games in their clubs history due to a fairly innocuous injury. There is an argument for playing these games sooner but there is no doubt it would suit the big clubs more than the smaller ones.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 13/02/2019 12:54:24    2165089

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I ready want to see a Corofin v Crokes final the two best teams in Ireland let's see whose the best but if the other two win I won't be upset, the videos from Donegal will be great if they win and some achievement if a half village wins.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 13/02/2019 13:28:49    2165102

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Replying To Soma:  "You mustn't have seen the goings on in Gaoth Dobhair the week after their provincial win or over the Christmas if you think they had no down time. Arrange the games for early January and Christmas is effectively cancelled for these lads.
Clubs like Corofin also usually have a big squad to pick from so a couple of injuries picked up playing every 2nd week is no great issue, for the smaller clubs injuries are a huge problem. With the long break all teams should be at full strength and no lad is at risk of missing the biggest games in their clubs history due to a fairly innocuous injury. There is an argument for playing these games sooner but there is no doubt it would suit the big clubs more than the smaller ones."
Not sure that week in Gweedore would be considered 'down time'!! Especially for the older lads.

All the best to Gweedore, hope the do the business. Their success, along with Red Hugh's in the Junior club is great for Donegal club football.

himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 15/02/2019 10:34:41    2165444

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Best to luck to all the clubs today, would ultimately enjoy seeing a Corofin v Dr. Crokes final, but wouldn't begrudge the other 2 clubs. Corofin vying to get back into the final after lifting the cup last year, best of luck to them. Sound group of players and management.

NarrowBack914 (USA) - Posts: 181 - 16/02/2019 12:10:16    2165636

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Alot of steps taken for the Gaoth Dobhair goal
Good game so far

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 602 - 16/02/2019 13:53:50    2165659

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Come on corofin but by god Cassidy is some man

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 16/02/2019 13:59:02    2165661

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I think you have to put Neill McGee on Ian Burke 2nd half he's running amok here number 2 not able for him not many are, he's the difference here for me. That goal just before ht is a killer all cause of Burke.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 16/02/2019 14:14:01    2165665

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "I think you have to put Neill McGee on Ian Burke 2nd half he's running amok here number 2 not able for him not many are, he's the difference here for me. That goal just before ht is a killer all cause of Burke."
Ian Burke is a killer with just one touch. Always takes the best option and never backs himself if a teammate is in a better position. Even if he's not on the scoresheet he's usually responsible for plenty of scores

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 16/02/2019 14:24:44    2165671

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Dylan Wall off injured big loss for Corofin. Colin Brady could be dangerous in for Lundy

NarrowBack914 (USA) - Posts: 181 - 16/02/2019 14:36:07    2165675

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Gweedore huffed and puffed but ultimately were outclassed.
Their discipline and temperament is also questionable and that prohibited them today for sure..

Benjy1000 (Cavan) - Posts: 85 - 16/02/2019 14:54:10    2165681

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Hard luck to Gweedore. Really good game once they settled themselves. They kicked some fantastic scores, midfield was the difference Corofin absolutely dominated there.

Well done Corofin

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 16/02/2019 14:55:41    2165682

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Replying To galwayfball:  "Come on corofin but by god Cassidy is some man"
As a neutral GD's style of football frustrated me, I'm not sure what their fans feel. Cassidy had Corofin's backline in trouble any time the ball went in. It looks like this hand passing, slow build up play has transfered throughout Donegal football. Fair play to GD for winning an Ulster title and giving it a go but that style of football won't win All Ireland's.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 16/02/2019 14:58:29    2165683

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Congratulations Corofin and best of luck in yet another All Ireland Final!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2210 - 16/02/2019 15:16:56    2165688

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