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Meath just being Meath. Never change :) Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 03/02/2019 21:05:18 2162251 Link 2 |
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That Donegal players who featured last night were predominantly aged between 20 and 24, and most of the players on the panel who didn't feature were in this age bracket too (Tony McClenaghan, Peader Mogan, Oisin Gallen etc). The average age of the team that started the match was 20.7 years old, while the team that finished the match was slightly younger. Jamie Brennan (22), Niall O'Donnell (20), Ciaran Thompson (23) Michael Langan (21), Jason McGee (21), Eoghan Ban Gallagher (22), Brendan McCole (21) Conor Morrison (21) Stephen McMenamin (22) Caolan McGonagle (22) Hugh McFadden (24) Ryan McHugh (24) Eoin McHugh (24) Donegal are still missing missing Michael Murphy, Paddy McBrearty, Odhran MacNiallais, Frank McGlynn, Paddy McGrath, Anthony Thompson, Neil McGee, Daire O'Baoill, Cian Mulligan, Darrach O'Connor and Micheal Carroll. While so far Mark McHugh, Ciaran McGinley and Stephen McBrearty have opted out of the panel in 2019. Whatever way we look at it, this was a very different looking Donegal from what we will likely see late in the league and Championship. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1121 - 03/02/2019 21:18:49 2162262 Link 1 |
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Ahh reald you know I'm only having the gas. Have to keep u boys on their toes now and again:)
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/02/2019 21:39:09 2162277 Link 1 |
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Donegal had 9 players who played last night who were 22 or younger Meath had 7 players who played last night who were 23 or younger. Meath had 5 under 21 players playing last night. And 7 of the Meath players who played last night werent on the Meath panel last year. It must be said though Donegal had players who have won an Ulster senior medal last year. They r young and sucessful So it would factually correct to say a young inexperienced Donegal played young inexperienced Meath team last night. Still alot of positives to take from the game. Up to 60th min Meath were in control of the game 4 points up , should have really being 5 or 6 at least. Playing direct intelligent good standard of gaelic football. Donegal got a a bit of freaky goal with one long kick from outfield that somehow got in the net. Donegal showed their class and skill and won out. But Meath still had chances in injury time to get a result. But Donegal r not Ulster champions and unbeaten in Ballybofey in the league since 2010 for nothing. They had the know how and experience to win tight matchs and talent. Some real good young talent in Donegal. Definatly in my book a very young skilful team that cud be All Ireland champions in 3 to 4 years time. They won while the other team should have is a good sign for Donegal. For Meath this was a better performance then Tyrone loss last year. Meath had 6 players starting last night that didnt play v Tyrone and 5 who started last night who were not even on the panel last year. Still alot of positives to take from the game for Meath. Up to 60th min Meath were in control of the game 4 points up , should have really being 5 or 6 at least. Playing direct intelligent good standard of gaelic football. Donegal got a a bit of freaky goal with one long kick from outfield that somehow got in the net. For Meath this was a better performance then Tyrone loss last year. Meath had 6 players starting last night that didnt play v Tyrone and 7 who played last night who were not even on the panel last year. The new young Meath players like Ronan Ryan Niall Kane Daragh Campion Ethan Devine James Conlon are making a difference. Allot of these young new Meath players are off Meath Under 20 team which was the only team to beat All Ireland champions kildare last year in the championship. These young Meath players are different to young players we have had come through in last few years. Our young players who came thru in last few years had no underage sucess and were beaten consistently by kildare and Dublin at underage. These new players year that played last night have been part of underage teams that r winning underage leinster titles and beating kildare and particularly Dublin consistently. They seem more confident then players that came thru the Meath ranks in allot of this decade. The hope is and there is evidence that this cud be start of more underage sucessful teams coming thru in Meath more frequently in the future . Serious work has been done on the ground in the last few year and even this year at underage work went up a level in terms of organisation, preparation and coaching in Meath . Its going take years to get back. But there is work being done and signs of recovery at all levels in Meath football. In senior football thats the 5th time in pretty much 2 years we went toe to toe for 70 mins with top division 1 team eg Galway Donegal 2017, Roscommon and Tyrone 2018 and Donegal 2019. We have young players and a young team there is allot of work to do and obstacles to cross. But those consistently strong performances v some of the best teams in the country is a good sign . Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 03/02/2019 21:44:47 2162280 Link 2 |
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hahaha
lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 03/02/2019 21:54:04 2162287 Link 1 |
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Doengal had a younger team. But Meath had young team also. 7 players of the Meath players were under the age of 23, 5 meath players under the age of 21. The yougest footballer on the field last night on both teams was a Meath player called Jason Scully who is 19. In my experience a team with 5 under 21 players and 7 players under the age of 23 would be considered a young team. I can admit Donegal had a young team , I cannot see how anyone can say Meath didnt have allot of young inexperienced players playing last night. To say otherwise would be a factually incorrect. While u said so far Mark McHugh, Ciaran McGinley and Stephen McBrearty have opted out of the Donegal panel in 2019. The players that have opted out of Meath panel in 2019 so far are Donal Lenihan, Ronan Jones, Ruari O ' Coilean, Brian Conlon, Eamon Wallace, Padraig McKeever and Brian Power. Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 03/02/2019 21:55:53 2162289 Link 2 |
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Does anyone know if Meath have a young team? JJ1 (Kildare) - Posts: 547 - 03/02/2019 22:55:02 2162324 Link 7 |
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I was impressed with Meath, thought they looked very good defensively and really got stuck into Donegal. The only negative for Meath was that they should have finished the game off when 4 points up with about 10 minutes left. They had a few decent chances to kill the game but didnt take them. They will win more games than they lose if they can continue this form. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 03/02/2019 23:05:58 2162331 Link 2 |
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Wouldn't rule out the league final either. :)
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/02/2019 23:36:44 2162339 Link 1 |
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It is factually correct to say Donegal had young team a younger team then Meath. But is factually correct to say Meath had young inexperienced team also. I dont see the issue in admiting a fact that Meath had a young team also. Meath had 7 players who played last night who were not on the Meath panel last year. How many of the Donegal players who played last night were not on Donegal panel last year ? As far as I can see from Donegal GAA official website 4 of the Donegal players who played last night were not on the Donegal senior panel last year. Players that played last night for Donegal who were not on the panel last year were J McGee McMemanin, Morrison and E McHugh. Donegal players who played last night who were on the panel last year were eg McGinley, Cole, Ward, McGonigle, Ban Gallagher, McFadden, Langan, R McHugh, P and J Brennans, C Thompson, Doherty, O Donnell, McEilananey, M Reilly. That information is from Donegal official gaa website, they are official stats. In summary 7 of the Meath players who played last night were not on the Meath senior panel last year. 4 of the Donegal players who played last night were not on the Donegal senior panel last year. 5 of the Meath players who started last night were not on the Meath senior panel last year. 1 of the Donegal players who started last night were not on the Donegal senior panel last year. 17 of the Donegal players who played last night won Ulster senior medal last year. 1 of the Meath players who played last night has won leinster senior medal. So in conclusion it looks like we can say Donegal had a younger team. But Meath had youngest footballer of the field last night. Donegal had young inexperienced team. But Meath also had young inexperienced team. Donegal had a more sucessful team with only 1 Meath player holding a leinster medal and 17 Donegal players having won an Ulster medal. And with Donegal 14 of the starting 15 were on the panel last year and Meath had 10 of 15 who were on panel last year. And with Donegal having 4 players who played last night who were not on the the panel last year and Meath had 7 players who played last night who were on the panel. We could say then, it wud be correct to say Donegal had more individual players on the field who had more inter county experience and more inter county sucess then Meath players. In one way we are splitting hair. The fact is Donegal had young inexperienced team and Meath had young inexperienced team last night. To say otherwise would not be factually correct. It wud incorrect to say otherwise. Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 04/02/2019 00:10:43 2162343 Link 2 |
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3 stats from the weekend 1 Meath had 5 under 21 playing last night and 7 under the age of 23. 2 Only 1 of the the Donegal players who started last night was not on the Donegal senior panel last year. 5 of the Meath players who started last night were not on the Meath senior panel last year. 3 The above message is the 10th post put up kildare supporters on a Meath v Donegal thread and still not one post by a kildare supporter on the main forum or kildare forum on Kildare's win v Cork. You kildare lads r obssesed with Meath. Its the old medival peasant mentality. The medieval peasants horse is dead. But he is still happy . Why?. Because his neighbours horse is dead also. Anyway best of luck to Donegal for the rest of the year. Brilliant young team with bright future . Enjoyed my time there. Very friendly charming people and Great gaa people. And I am looking to see these wonderful young Donegal footballers develop over the next few years. And I expect Sam Maguire to be in Donegal in the year 2022 or 2023. And also to be fair I am.looking forward to the young talented kildare footballers like Jimmy Hyland and Dan Flynn develop over the years. I like watching talented footballers and kildare and Donegal have some good ones coming thru. Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 04/02/2019 00:26:34 2162346 Link 2 |
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i think thats getting a bit carried away to say you would have a few medals over the last few years if you were in ulster. meath seem to be moving better this year compared to the last couple of years but winning ulster is something they wouldn't have done.
superdub (Dublin) - Posts: 392 - 04/02/2019 09:36:20 2162385 Link 1 |
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Do you have to be from the competing counties to be able to comment on the thread?
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 04/02/2019 11:37:26 2162430 Link 4 |
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It was a great win for Donegal in what is proving to be a very competitive division. With some of the other contenders drawing it means that if we can get a win down in Tipperary next we should be in a great position for promotion. I would expect us to get stronger as we go on what with fitness and match sharpness improving, as well as the return of more established players. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9151 - 04/02/2019 12:20:22 2162455 Link 0 |
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Both counties fielded teams that will be much changed by the time the championship comes around so I wouldn't read too much into form at this time of the year. MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 04/02/2019 12:56:07 2162475 Link 1 |
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Its a classic div 2 division. One team will probably run away with the title eg Donegal. And one of the rest cud get relegated. Donegal look like what they r going to do what is similar to what they did in 2014 and Tyrone did in 2016 and kildare did in 2017. That is win the division with a game or two in hand. Donegal as expected will win the division and probaly the Ulster title. The rest of the teams r taking points of each other left right and centre. Leaving kildare and Donegal to one side every other team in the division cud be relegated. Who will get relegated is impossible to say at the moment. Tipp r problaly not going to be promotion candidates, even Kearns has stated he thinks its not bad idea to stay in div 2 . But Tipp will take points off teams especially in Thurles. I cannot see them going down. Clare r so hard to beat in Ennis have a shrewd manager and have mastered staying in div 2 in last few years. Can see Clare again been mid table. Fermanagh are going to keep taking points of teams as they r so well organised and have brillant defence. While Cork look not in a great state. And probably r not candidates for promotion. But wait til u see when Cork will start taking points off teams if relegation looms and I think they be mid table. The second promotion seems to be kildare with Armagh and Meath as kildares main challengers. Kildare have talented bunch and r second favourites to go up and deservedly so. They are second already. And when they get in full stride cud win all the rest of their games. Meath v Armagh on Sunday is a massive game. Whoever wins cud be in a fight with kildare for second promotion position. Whoever loses cud end up in relegation dogfight. Its a massive 6 pointer on Sunday. Will Meath young players have a hangover from the Saturday loss to Donegal or will they play some of the excellent quality direct football they played v Donegal for 60 mins. When it comes to Meath no one knows. Meath are so inconsistent, they cud lose to Armagh and Cork and then beat kildare. U cannot say with Meath at the moment. But if they play like did v Donegal they will be hard to beat in all their games. Armagh cud get promoted or cud get relegated. Have some real good players but have seriously underachieved under McGeeney. McGeeney was great player but not a great manager. Not 1 victory in Ulster in 4 years , 3 years of 5 in div 3 is poor probaly Armaghs poorest 4 or 5 years in last 45 years. McGeeney has allot of experience but in 12 years as an inter county manager has not won 1 trophy and only reached only 1 provicial in 12 years as a manager. Compare that record to Malachy O Rourke. Armagh have some really good players and I think Tony McEntee Osin McConville O Rourke McNultys cud be men take Armagh to the next level. I think are good enough to get promoted, push for an Ulster title and compete at super 8 level. But probably under a different manager like Tony McEntee. But still they will be very fit very poweful this year and players like Jamie Clarke wud walk onto any team in the country. They cud get promoted they cud get relegated , they r as inconsistent as Meath. So after 2 weeks other then Donegal winning the division , everything is as clear as mud in divsion 2. Who will join Donegal in div 1? who get relegated? Its anyone guess. But it will probably go down to the final weekend and again div 2 will be the most exciting and unpredictable of the four divsions. Same as it ever was. Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 04/02/2019 13:16:56 2162482 Link 3 |
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Fair analysis. Hard to know going forward what way that loss might effect a inexperienced Meath. It will either spur them on or it could have opposite effect. For this week Andy must concentrate on them forgetting about it and moving onto next match.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/02/2019 13:56:51 2162502 Link 1 |
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We cud lose to Armagh and Cork we cud win both games. We r so inconsistent , its so hard to know. But definitely there is an improvement in the defence this year. Pundits supporters other counties supporters journalist are praising our defence. It helps that midfield is doing well. Menton had a great game on Saturday. And S McEntee and kane r good at breaking ball. Rodgers the new goalkeeper's coach , one best goalkeeper's in the country ( plays for Dundalk and on Irish soccer team ) has improved midfield. Worry wud be Menton and S McEntee are wing backs turned into midfielders. You wud worry how they would do v midfielders of the quality of Brian Fenton David Moran and Mark Feehily. If midfield is struggling and constant ball into backs the backs will suffer, it doesn't matter how good the backs are.. The loss of midfielders like Conor Gillespie Conor Nash Shane O Rourke Harry Rooney and Ronan Jones is huge. But the 6 backs are as solid as I seen in a long time for us. Lavin McGill and Ryan have been our best line on the field in every game. The half back line is playing like a proper modern attacking half back line. Again problem area for years. The football at the weeekend was improvement on Donegal game in 2017. In 2017 when we went toe to toe Donegal losing in injury time. We were a bit helter-skelter all over the place , periods of good and bad play. Tyrone last year was better but also it mixed the good and the bad and Tyrone had good periods of football. Saturday first 60 mins was a good standard of intelligent direct football. It was in a controlled and effective manner. Much more improved then Tyrone game last year . We played some really good football on Saturday night. I was talking to allot of Donegal supporters after the match and they were surprised how well Meath played. J McEntee and Kane our wings backs came in for a allot of praise Campion G Reilly C Sullivan have scores un them. Our half forwarda r good. But as I said before its the inside line we r struggling. We have good forwards but lack marquee forward. Its a pity lenihan is gone travelling. For a lenihan Newman Duo in the forward line would help , both r 28 and at their peak. And both are good forwards. And Meath football has always built in duo upfront eg Curran and Shanley in the 60s, O Rourkes Flynn in the 80s and Geraghty and Ollie Murphy in the 90s. PS Any news on Alan Forde. He done his cruciate. But still no sign. For me he is best wing forward in the county . He plays a similar style to Paul Galvin Brian Dooher. Im not saying he as good as them. But is similar type of player can defend can attack link the defence. Forde and Harnan would the improve the team further when they comeback. Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 04/02/2019 15:07:46 2162529 Link 2 |
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Great stuff again Furlong. Always enjoy reading such thoughtful insightful posts but u have a match in Commodore. Not forgetting the passion if somewhat a little blinded by it of RD. I wish Meath all the best for the rest of the campaign and were it not for a trip to Tipp Sunday I would have considered going to Navan (Under an hour from where I am based) in what is a huge league encounter next weekend. Having seen Armagh a couple of weeks ago they are fairly well drilled for this time of the year and will probably be disappointed to only have 2 points. Surprisingly RTE actually had some brief highlights of Saturday nights game. Some impressive point shooting from both sides. On the goal the Meath keeper should have been more assertive and misjudged the bounce. But I feel great credit must be given to Caolan McGonagle too. He showed great anticipation by making a sprint from the half forward line to track the ball and get the vital touch. It really was a great piece of play largely missed as people concentrated on the keepers reactions. panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 04/02/2019 19:19:56 2162594 Link 1 |
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Thanks Panamasam. Your right I have met my match in Commodore. Hes knows his stuff and is a passionate Donegal supporter. Respect to Commodore. Best of luck to Donegal for rest of season. I expect u top the division and win Ulster again. And if u get Murphy and McBreaty I expect Donegal a match for anyone. And as I said before in 2 to 3 years time u guys are going to serious All Ireland contenders and I think u will Sam with this talented group. Enjoyed my stay in Donegal . Great gaa folk. Beautiful part of the country and always very warm and charming people . Enjoy the rest of the season. I think Donegal will have a good one. Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 04/02/2019 20:35:44 2162618 Link 3 |