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Both have quite inexperienced sides out on Sunday. This match is very 50/50. Winners will do their division 2 hopes very good.
Meath by 2.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/01/2019 19:20:41    2160526

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As you say, both teams are without key players so could go either way. Our young players are very good footballers but haven't developed physically yet. Still a serious question about our defence when a team runs at us but we were a bit better on Sunday. I'm glad were in Division 2 with this current situation of injuries and Gweedore as the young lads are been given a chance. It can only develop a stronger panel in the long run. Meath will be buoyed by a great win yesterday and will probably be favourites for Saturday night.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 28/01/2019 20:49:46    2160544

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Replying To Tir Conaill Abu:  "As you say, both teams are without key players so could go either way. Our young players are very good footballers but haven't developed physically yet. Still a serious question about our defence when a team runs at us but we were a bit better on Sunday. I'm glad were in Division 2 with this current situation of injuries and Gweedore as the young lads are been given a chance. It can only develop a stronger panel in the long run. Meath will be buoyed by a great win yesterday and will probably be favourites for Saturday night."
Not favs , bookies have the handicap at 2 points in favor of donegal, that been said I think it's 50/50. Obviously home advantage is a massive plus. Started yesterday minus 6 players that started v Tyrone last year. And 4 that had never played a second of league or championship football at senior level. Very inexperienced players and at times it showed, some nervy shots and hesitated at the wrong times also some wayward passing, I'm sure no more than donegal at times too. Now hopefully that brought them on a bit. But really could go anyway, I'm heading up hopeful, but certainly not confident. We could win we could draw or we could get a hammering. Hopefully the likes of Reilly and O'Sullivan and maybe even harnan can play a bigger part than yesterday . A intriguing game awaits. And should have been shown on tv.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/01/2019 21:00:27    2160547

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Hard to know how this one will go; think Meath are going to have good year this year but will just fall short on promotion, possibly a good run in the championship. Donegal have a few key players missing, does Meath have many missing? Think Donegal will have their homework done to a T on Meath; Rochford and Bonner could be quite a duo when it comes to tactics. Donegal will be happy to have home advantage, think Donegal will win this one at the end. Donegal +3

oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 28/01/2019 21:01:30    2160548

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Replying To oakleafersir:  "Hard to know how this one will go; think Meath are going to have good year this year but will just fall short on promotion, possibly a good run in the championship. Donegal have a few key players missing, does Meath have many missing? Think Donegal will have their homework done to a T on Meath; Rochford and Bonner could be quite a duo when it comes to tactics. Donegal will be happy to have home advantage, think Donegal will win this one at the end. Donegal +3"
6 of last years starters including Donal Lenihan (who would be regarded as best forward in county) add to that injury to players like Graham Reilly and Cillian O'sullivan (both came on yesterday) but still not fully fit, likes of Joey wallace (injured) eamonn wallace gone traveling, paddy Kennelly starting midfielder last year, gone traveling , that's not even getting to those who would be certain starters only they doing studies abroad or just can't commit, very young team. Now of course we have been handed the bonus that micky Newman is back and looking as good as he was before injuries, harnan is back in panel after breaking his leg although not named on panel yesterday. We have the likes of campion Kane Devine etc all new players who started yesterday, showed well, but donegal will be a hell lot tougher test. I can't call it , heart says Meath , head says too young and inexperienced to beat the likes of donegal even if they are missing players too.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/01/2019 22:02:26    2160582

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Two teams that are no good. Both sets of fans will be expecting their respective team to win.

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4122 - 28/01/2019 22:44:53    2160596

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Just an aside here, I watched highlights of Meath V Tipp in Navan, I saw a large advert for "Hoganstand.com" behind the goals. Has Royaldunne anything to do with this I wonder?

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 28/01/2019 22:47:35    2160597

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This should be an interesting game and a shame there is not full TV coverage even delayed. Good win for Donegal yesterday with a fairly inexperienced team. Going away to Ennis one of the more tricky games in the division. Definitely rode our luck at times but despite a couple of hairy moments we defended quite well. This despite some big players missing, however the likes of Ryan McHugh and Jamie Brennan are available both of whom are a class above. Usually I would be fairly confident when playing at Ballybofey with the record there but with a makeshift side at this time of the year it does temper confidence. Saying that some of our young forwards are very talented lads and will take some watching. I know Tipp were very under strength yesterday but still a good win for Meath. All in all I fancy Donegal by a few scores especially with having a few scoring threats in the forward line.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 28/01/2019 23:38:37    2160607

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Replying To royaldunne:  "6 of last years starters including Donal Lenihan (who would be regarded as best forward in county) add to that injury to players like Graham Reilly and Cillian O'sullivan (both came on yesterday) but still not fully fit, likes of Joey wallace (injured) eamonn wallace gone traveling, paddy Kennelly starting midfielder last year, gone traveling , that's not even getting to those who would be certain starters only they doing studies abroad or just can't commit, very young team. Now of course we have been handed the bonus that micky Newman is back and looking as good as he was before injuries, harnan is back in panel after breaking his leg although not named on panel yesterday. We have the likes of campion Kane Devine etc all new players who started yesterday, showed well, but donegal will be a hell lot tougher test. I can't call it , heart says Meath , head says too young and inexperienced to beat the likes of donegal even if they are missing players too."
Cheers for the information on Meath, time will only tell who will come out on top.

oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 28/01/2019 23:47:15    2160609

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Replying To galwayford:  "Just an aside here, I watched highlights of Meath V Tipp in Navan, I saw a large advert for "Hoganstand.com" behind the goals. Has Royaldunne anything to do with this I wonder?"
Hahaha no. Hoganstand is a Meath company, and sponsors the Meath senior club championship, and paid for the score board.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/01/2019 09:18:14    2160626

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Replying To oakleafersir:  "Cheers for the information on Meath, time will only tell who will come out on top."
That's it. It will be very interesting. Two teams with a good dash of future stars starting . Tbh I can't wait.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/01/2019 09:22:31    2160628

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A tricky enough game but with our record in Ballybofey I'd fancy us to dig out a win by a few points. By all accounts Clare caused us some bother with their running game so it might be a game for McLoone and McMenamin to start. They would add some physicality and power to the back 6.

Going forward, Jamie Brennan has really put in the work to add strength and power to his already frightening pace. In the absence of Paddy, he will be looking to establish himself as Donegal's talisman in attack during this league campaign. We'll hopefully see him kick on this weekend after a good start down in Clare. Michael Langan looks assured on the frees and is very accurate from play given a sniff of a chance.

I'll give us the nod by 3-4 points.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9151 - 29/01/2019 09:45:11    2160634

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Donegal could actually name an alternative 15 that the one we had out on Sunday.

Missing Murphy, McBrearty, 7 Gweedore players and many many more who are not available makes it a tough match.

Think Meath might sneak it. I wouldnt be worried with a full deck.

IamDonegal (Donegal) - Posts: 134 - 29/01/2019 11:50:18    2160669

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "A tricky enough game but with our record in Ballybofey I'd fancy us to dig out a win by a few points. By all accounts Clare caused us some bother with their running game so it might be a game for McLoone and McMenamin to start. They would add some physicality and power to the back 6.

Going forward, Jamie Brennan has really put in the work to add strength and power to his already frightening pace. In the absence of Paddy, he will be looking to establish himself as Donegal's talisman in attack during this league campaign. We'll hopefully see him kick on this weekend after a good start down in Clare. Michael Langan looks assured on the frees and is very accurate from play given a sniff of a chance.

I'll give us the nod by 3-4 points."
Our record in ballybofey was good until last year. We got relegated there the last day of the league and we were put out of the championship there too. So it may well be a home venue, but it counts for little.

I think it will be a close game despite everything

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 29/01/2019 12:42:03    2160690

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Our record in ballybofey was good until last year. We got relegated there the last day of the league and we were put out of the championship there too. So it may well be a home venue, but it counts for little.

I think it will be a close game despite everything"
It's still only been one defeat there in 9 years so I would disagree with you that home advantage doesn't count for much.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9151 - 29/01/2019 13:01:26    2160701

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Replying To panamasam:  "This should be an interesting game and a shame there is not full TV coverage even delayed. Good win for Donegal yesterday with a fairly inexperienced team. Going away to Ennis one of the more tricky games in the division. Definitely rode our luck at times but despite a couple of hairy moments we defended quite well. This despite some big players missing, however the likes of Ryan McHugh and Jamie Brennan are available both of whom are a class above. Usually I would be fairly confident when playing at Ballybofey with the record there but with a makeshift side at this time of the year it does temper confidence. Saying that some of our young forwards are very talented lads and will take some watching. I know Tipp were very under strength yesterday but still a good win for Meath. All in all I fancy Donegal by a few scores especially with having a few scoring threats in the forward line."
Just regards Tippearey being very understrenght. Yes they were missing their best forward Quilvan ( but Meath are also missing their best forward lenihan). Tippearey were missing 2 or 3 players but I wouldn't say they were very under strenght. Their Goelie defence and midfield is their first choice. And when Tipperary beat Meath by 8 points last year 10 of the15 who defeated Meath last year started on Sunday for Tippearey. While only 7 of the players who started for Meath on Sunday started v Tippearey last year. Meath had 8 changes on Sunday to the team that loss to Tippearey last year. As I said before 6 of the players that played v Tippearey didnt start v Tyrone in the championship last year and 5 players who started v Tippearey on Sunday werent on the Meath panel last year.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 29/01/2019 13:35:19    2160717

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Just regards Tippearey being very understrenght. Yes they were missing their best forward Quilvan ( but Meath are also missing their best forward lenihan). Tippearey were missing 2 or 3 players but I wouldn't say they were very under strenght. Their Goelie defence and midfield is their first choice. And when Tipperary beat Meath by 8 points last year 10 of the15 who defeated Meath last year started on Sunday for Tippearey. While only 7 of the players who started for Meath on Sunday started v Tippearey last year. Meath had 8 changes on Sunday to the team that loss to Tippearey last year. As I said before 6 of the players that played v Tippearey didnt start v Tyrone in the championship last year and 5 players who started v Tippearey on Sunday werent on the Meath panel last year."
Despite what alot of Meath people want to say about Meath being short players, we were not short players.

Lenihan has not been and will not be part of the panel at any stage this year. Reilly and O Sullivan are fit to start but decision has been made that they want to try having these players to finish games. Bar Harnan (who is fit but not comfortable at IC level yet after breaking his leg), Meath are at full strength currently with the players who have committed for the year

juicy (Meath) - Posts: 399 - 29/01/2019 14:30:08    2160733

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Replying To Tir Conaill Abu:  "As you say, both teams are without key players so could go either way. Our young players are very good footballers but haven't developed physically yet. Still a serious question about our defence when a team runs at us but we were a bit better on Sunday. I'm glad were in Division 2 with this current situation of injuries and Gweedore as the young lads are been given a chance. It can only develop a stronger panel in the long run. Meath will be buoyed by a great win yesterday and will probably be favourites for Saturday night."
One stat that mite be good for Meath. In last two years Meath have got results against best teams in the division.
In 2017 Galway won division 2 title, were the best team in divsion 2 , Meath defeated them.
In 2018 Roscommon won division 2 title , were best team in divsion 2 , Meath drew with them.
Will this be the third year in a row Meath get result against best team in the division.

There is no way Meath are favourites on Sunday. Donegal will be strong favourites and desevedly so. Every pundit, every tipster, every newpaper or social media outlet prediction will be tipping Donegal to win.

Donegal are one of the best teams in the country. They are a division 1. I know they r in div 2 but that will be temporary. Donegal r in the top 5 or 6 teams in the country and r the reigning Ulster champions. They have the best young team in the country at the moment. With also a good few players who have multiple Ulster titles and All Ireland medal. They have been the Ulster county / team of the decade.

This Donegal team in the next few year will be All-Ireland contenders and in 2 , 3 to 4 years this Donegal team I believe will be All-Ireland champions. They will definitely be in All Ireland final in 2 to 3 years. Michael Muiritigh was asked last week who was the team with most talent after Dublin who could beat Dubs next year he said Donegal.

Yes Donegal are building and yes they r missing two great players and Gweedore players but after Dublin the team with the best panel in the country is Donegal. I hear ex players and journalists continuing to refer to Donegal having a great panel and only Dublin have better. Look at Donegal players v Clare in forwards. Ban Gallagher Thompson and Langan are top class forwards who would walk onto to any team in the country.

Finally Ballybofey is one of the toughest places to win in the country. When Tyrone beat Donegal last year, it ended 21 match unbeaten run in Ballybofey for Donegal. It was Donegals first loss since 2010 in Ballybofey. After Dublin in Croke Park the toughest place to go in the country is Donegal in Ballybofey. Look at these stats. Meath have a big mountain to climb to beat Donegal. The following Armagh and Cork games are the big ones for Meath. Two victories in those game wud be achieveable and important. Beating Donegal wud be a bonus, but also a big upset.

1 Donegal have lost 1 match in Ballybofey in league or championship since 2010.
2 Since 2010 Donegal have played 21 times in league and championship in Ballybofey. Donegal have had 15 victories, 5 draws and 1 loss in 21 games in Ballybofey.
3 So in summary Donegal have been unbeaten in 20 of their last 21 games in Ballybofey
4 Even Dublin in this decade couldnt beat Donegal in Ballybofey. Dublin drew with Donegal twice in the league in Ballybofey.

Meath have shown when they play the Tyrones Donegals Roscommon Galways they up their game and play well and even get results. ( Meath got results v Galway Roscommon and lost by a 1 point to Donegal and Tyrone in last 2 years ). Meath do play well v division 1 top teams, so I do expect Meath to put it up to Donegal on Saturday and result is not impossible for Meath . Donegal v Meath games are always tight close games. Last game, 2 years ago Donegal won by a point. In 2014 Meath drew with Donegal in Ballybofey.

But the fact is Donegal even with their players missing r one of the best teams in the country and Ballybofey is a fortress for Donegal. They are very very rarely defeated in Ballybofey. A Meath victory wud be a massive result. But Donegal are strong favourites and desevedly so. I believe Donegal will be All-Ireland champions in 2022 or 2023. Watch out for them, they r definatly one of the most exciting team out there after Dublin.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 29/01/2019 14:33:36    2160735

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Donegal have not been beaten in the league in Ballybofey since 2010. Dublin Tyrone Mayo kerry have all failed to beat Donegal in Ballybofey since 2010 in the league. Donegal are unbeaten in the league in their last 13 games in Ballybofey. That is after Dublin the best record in the country.

On average between 2012 and 2018 fifty seven per cent of home teams win their home matchs each league campaign in div 1. So excluding the last round of league games last year in the previous 6 rounds of the league in div 1 teams 12 home teams won games and 10 away teams won games and u had 1 draw. Thats 56% sucess rate for home teams. And as I said the average sucess rate for home teams in div 1 in the league is 57% . Donegal home record is on a different level. The only team comparable in league football is Dublin in Croker.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 29/01/2019 14:57:51    2160743

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Donegal have not been beaten in the league in Ballybofey since 2010. Dublin Tyrone Mayo kerry have all failed to beat Donegal in Ballybofey since 2010 in the league. Donegal are unbeaten in the league in their last 13 games in Ballybofey. That is after Dublin the best record in the country.

On average between 2012 and 2018 fifty seven per cent of home teams win their home matchs each league campaign in div 1. So excluding the last round of league games last year in the previous 6 rounds of the league in div 1 teams 12 home teams won games and 10 away teams won games and u had 1 draw. Thats 56% sucess rate for home teams. And as I said the average sucess rate for home teams in div 1 in the league is 57% . Donegal home record is on a different level. The only team comparable in league football is Dublin in Croker.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 29/01/2019 14:57:52    2160744

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