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Replying To Grey_Wolf: "11 years ago we were robbed off a draw in Kilmallock that would have saved us from Div 4. The ref blew for half time as a Leitrim ball was going over the bar. He disallowed the score. Leitrim lost by a point and went down, Limerick stayed up.
Saturday 11 years later and still in Div 4 from that day 2 Leitrim speculative shots on goal fell short and bounced over the bar. Limerick missed 4 goals in the first half. We got a 40 metre point 4 minutes into injury time when we hadn't scored in 17 minutes to snatch victory from Limerick. Funny old game football is.
So it looks like this young team are Croker bound if they get one more win. It would seem Derry and Leitrim could still loose 2 games and go up because of the better head to head records against the other teams.
Interesting fact 1: Leitrim have not been promoted in the league since 1990 when they beat WIcklow in a playoff to gain promotion to Div 2. That time there was no Div 4 and instead two Div 3's North and South. 3 teams were relegated from DIv 2 that year.
Interesting fact 2: The following year Leitrim finished joint second with Kildare in Division 2 after beating them in the first round. Head to head rules weren't around then or Leitrim would have been promoted to Div 1, neither was scoring difference. So instead they met Kildare for a second time in a playoff and lost. Leitrim have never played Division 1 football." The figures which are now just becoming available to us show one thing very clearly; they jazzed up the league for the 1991-92 league season, with Div 1 consisting of 18 teams divided into 3 groups, for some reason. Division had the remaining 14 counties in two groups. Leitrim were in Group B of Division 1. Seemingly it was a one-off arrangement. The next year the league consisted of four "mixed ability" groups of eight teams each (so, for instance, Kerry and Kilkenny were in the same group!), and for the next four seasons it was the usual four divisions, during which time Leitrim proudly held their own in Division 2, watching their fellow Connacht teams Roscommon, Galway and Mayo get relegated down to Division 3.
Then they did another "mixed ability" thing in 1997-1998 and then moved to a Div 1A, 1B, 2A and 2B thing. Leitrim finished fourth in Group A in 1997-98 and once again found themselves in Division 1, on merit, in the first season of 1A/1B/2A/2B and then got relegated... swapping places with, among other teams, Kerry, who lost 4 games in Group C the previous season and wound up in Division 2.
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Keep it going Leitrim...great stuff. Would be great to see them play in a final in Croke Park.
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Replying To Grey_Wolf: "11 years ago we were robbed off a draw in Kilmallock that would have saved us from Div 4. The ref blew for half time as a Leitrim ball was going over the bar. He disallowed the score. Leitrim lost by a point and went down, Limerick stayed up.
Saturday 11 years later and still in Div 4 from that day 2 Leitrim speculative shots on goal fell short and bounced over the bar. Limerick missed 4 goals in the first half. We got a 40 metre point 4 minutes into injury time when we hadn't scored in 17 minutes to snatch victory from Limerick. Funny old game football is.
So it looks like this young team are Croker bound if they get one more win. It would seem Derry and Leitrim could still loose 2 games and go up because of the better head to head records against the other teams.
Interesting fact 1: Leitrim have not been promoted in the league since 1990 when they beat WIcklow in a playoff to gain promotion to Div 2. That time there was no Div 4 and instead two Div 3's North and South. 3 teams were relegated from DIv 2 that year.
Interesting fact 2: The following year Leitrim finished joint second with Kildare in Division 2 after beating them in the first round. Head to head rules weren't around then or Leitrim would have been promoted to Div 1, neither was scoring difference. So instead they met Kildare for a second time in a playoff and lost. Leitrim have never played Division 1 football." Interesting trivia there grey wolf, of course leitrim had a good team back in the 90s with the highlight been of course the connaught title in 94, a good sign is winning tight games at the death it builds confidence and creates leaders, interesting times hopefully lie ahead for leitrim and best of luck with the rest of 2019.
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Fantastic footballing people in Leitrim, we deserve our day in croker and promotion so please God we will get it. The following is pulled from the Leitrim GAA website and even tho it is a few years old the numbers are more or less the same
[bWhat makes Leitrim unique in Gaelic Football circles is not the County's achievements on the field but the high level of participation in the sport. Leitrim, the county with the smallest population of any of Ireland's 32 Counties, has the highest number of G.A.A. clubs and players, per capita, of any County in Ireland. Leitrim has 24 G.A.A. Clubs for a population of 25,057 (1996 Census) and 54 adult teams playing in 5 League divisions. If you consider that the number of males between the ages of 18 - 32 in the whole of County Leitrim is only 2310, that means there is a team produced for every 42 males of normal football playing age, resident in the County. Of course a proportion of these players are normally outside the County during the week and return at weekends.
Not alone is this not matched by any other County in Ireland, but it is doubtful if any sporting organisation anywhere in the world could come close to this level of participation, it is an amazing achievement
To think that we could be joining Cork in Division 3 next year is staggering given the scale of where we come from. Fair play to the Leitrim lads. They are amesome
leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 644 - 25/02/2019 21:33:11
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This coming weekend I will go for Derry, Antrim, Leitrim and Wicklow all to win.
OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 26/02/2019 15:04:12
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Derry, Antrim, Leitrim and Wicklow
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Replying To gaelicgab: "Leitrim, Antrim, Derry and Waterford" You got the Waterford result spot on. Like most people I was giving it to Wexford- how the mighty have fallen. They were tipped for promotion.Another defeat beckons in Aughrim which if Wicklow win will keep the pressure on Leitrim & Derry.Any Wicklow thoughts on Derry game? Thought they would put it up to them in what was a must win game.
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Replying To katser: "Looks like a straight swap with your neighbours..... Leitrim promotion and Sligo relegation!" Very sad for our neighbors Sligo. If Leitrim promoted would be better for Connacht football to have both of us in Div 3. Wish Spaulding Taylor good luck on Sunday- a must win for them against an improving Westmeath.Won't be easy.
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Replying To Grey_Wolf: "11 years ago we were robbed off a draw in Kilmallock that would have saved us from Div 4. The ref blew for half time as a Leitrim ball was going over the bar. He disallowed the score. Leitrim lost by a point and went down, Limerick stayed up.
Saturday 11 years later and still in Div 4 from that day 2 Leitrim speculative shots on goal fell short and bounced over the bar. Limerick missed 4 goals in the first half. We got a 40 metre point 4 minutes into injury time when we hadn't scored in 17 minutes to snatch victory from Limerick. Funny old game football is.
So it looks like this young team are Croker bound if they get one more win. It would seem Derry and Leitrim could still loose 2 games and go up because of the better head to head records against the other teams.
Interesting fact 1: Leitrim have not been promoted in the league since 1990 when they beat WIcklow in a playoff to gain promotion to Div 2. That time there was no Div 4 and instead two Div 3's North and South. 3 teams were relegated from DIv 2 that year.
Interesting fact 2: The following year Leitrim finished joint second with Kildare in Division 2 after beating them in the first round. Head to head rules weren't around then or Leitrim would have been promoted to Div 1, neither was scoring difference. So instead they met Kildare for a second time in a playoff and lost. Leitrim have never played Division 1 football." Funny quip from a Leitrim supporter in Killmallock following those two points bouncing over the keeper- 'it was the good quality of the Limerick land that gave us the points-if that happened in Leitrim the ball would have stuck in the mud!
leitrimabu1 (Leitrim) - Posts: 131 - 26/02/2019 16:19:12
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Replying To Grey_Wolf: "11 years ago we were robbed off a draw in Kilmallock that would have saved us from Div 4. The ref blew for half time as a Leitrim ball was going over the bar. He disallowed the score. Leitrim lost by a point and went down, Limerick stayed up.
Saturday 11 years later and still in Div 4 from that day 2 Leitrim speculative shots on goal fell short and bounced over the bar. Limerick missed 4 goals in the first half. We got a 40 metre point 4 minutes into injury time when we hadn't scored in 17 minutes to snatch victory from Limerick. Funny old game football is.
So it looks like this young team are Croker bound if they get one more win. It would seem Derry and Leitrim could still loose 2 games and go up because of the better head to head records against the other teams.
Interesting fact 1: Leitrim have not been promoted in the league since 1990 when they beat WIcklow in a playoff to gain promotion to Div 2. That time there was no Div 4 and instead two Div 3's North and South. 3 teams were relegated from DIv 2 that year.
Interesting fact 2: The following year Leitrim finished joint second with Kildare in Division 2 after beating them in the first round. Head to head rules weren't around then or Leitrim would have been promoted to Div 1, neither was scoring difference. So instead they met Kildare for a second time in a playoff and lost. Leitrim have never played Division 1 football." Might I just follow up on this post to add that yes, we've never been in an 8-team Division 1. I wasn't at the Kildare game in 1991 but I remember Kildare beat us in a playoff after we'd previously beaten them. After Kildare won the play-off, they made it all the way to the League final where they played Dublin, and my family wondered why I was going for Dublin in the final. "Because Kildare beat us" was my simple, naive answer. Dublin won.
I was in Carrick when we relegated Roscommon. They needed a draw to finish on level points with us (4 points each I think) and force a play-off. But we won and ended up on 6 points. The Rossies were dismissed to Division 3.
Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1032 - 26/02/2019 17:59:35
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Every county bar Leitrim and London have been in a League Final since 2010, can Leitrim keep it up?
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Replying To Tacaí Liatroma: "The figures which are now just becoming available to us show one thing very clearly; they jazzed up the league for the 1991-92 league season, with Div 1 consisting of 18 teams divided into 3 groups, for some reason. Division had the remaining 14 counties in two groups. Leitrim were in Group B of Division 1. Seemingly it was a one-off arrangement. The next year the league consisted of four "mixed ability" groups of eight teams each (so, for instance, Kerry and Kilkenny were in the same group!), and for the next four seasons it was the usual four divisions, during which time Leitrim proudly held their own in Division 2, watching their fellow Connacht teams Roscommon, Galway and Mayo get relegated down to Division 3.
Then they did another "mixed ability" thing in 1997-1998 and then moved to a Div 1A, 1B, 2A and 2B thing. Leitrim finished fourth in Group A in 1997-98 and once again found themselves in Division 1, on merit, in the first season of 1A/1B/2A/2B and then got relegated... swapping places with, among other teams, Kerry, who lost 4 games in Group C the previous season and wound up in Division 2." Kerry 5-20; Kilkenny 1-3. I knew I'd find it.
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Leitrim, Derry, Antrim and Wicklow all to win!
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Derry beat Limerick.
Waterford beat Antrim.
Wexford beat Wicklow.
Derry are now promoted on 10 points, 6 points ahead of 3rd, with only 4 points to play for.
Leitrim have 8 points.
Wicklow, Limerick, Waterford and Wexford now have 4 points, 4 behind Leitrim.
London have 2 points, with Leitrim to play tomorrow.
If London win tomorrow, they also go to 4 points.
All teams need Leitrim to lose tomorrow.
Here are the permutations (stay with me here).
If Leitrim win or draw (in any of their last 3 games), they are promoted.
If Leitrim lose tomorrow, it gives Wicklow, Limerick, Waterford, Wexford and London an outside shot of promotion via a tie on points and how that is worked out for final table position.
All need Leitrim to lose all their remaining 3 games.
Wicklow, Wexford and Limerick need at least 2 teams to finish level on points with Leitrim for scoring difference to be the decider. Otherwise, if only one of those teams tie with Leitrim on points, Leitrim's head to head with them would trump them.
London and Waterford have Leitrim to play. If both of these beat Leitrim, (they still need to win their other remaining games), their head to head would then trump Leitrim, if 1 (and only 1) of these ties with Leitrim on points.
Otherwise it's scoring differences.
All hinges on tomorrow.
Antrim are the only team that are mathematically out of the equation.
All other teams need London to win tomorrow to have the smallest of chances themselves. And it would continue like that for the remaining 2 subsequent games.
So C'MON LEITRIM!! Let's do the business tomorrow!!
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Replying To katser: "Looks like a straight swap with your neighbours..... Leitrim promotion and Sligo relegation!" Round 5 for us against London in pairc Sean. Going by Saturday afternoon results one draw from our 3 games left and we are up. Mathematical wise we are so far ahead on the plus/minus score difference there is actually a fair chance that we have enough done, but one more point will confirm Croke Park awaits.
Your reference to Sligo relegation.
I admit they are in serious problem,but as our neighbour I hope they somehow can avoid relegation.
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Congratulations Leitrim on promotion to division 3!
Sweetspot (Kildare) - Posts: 323 - 03/03/2019 14:41:20
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Well done Leitrim
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Congratulations Leitrim
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Replying To Shannonview: "Round 5 for us against London in pairc Sean. Going by Saturday afternoon results one draw from our 3 games left and we are up. Mathematical wise we are so far ahead on the plus/minus score difference there is actually a fair chance that we have enough done, but one more point will confirm Croke Park awaits.
Your reference to Sligo relegation.
I admit they are in serious problem,but as our neighbour I hope they somehow can avoid relegation." Unfortunately Sligo have been relegated after today's result the same day Leitrim gain promotion. Congratulations Leitrim
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Replying To dave1988: "Congratulations Leitrim" Who ever gave that a thumbs down must have serious issues. Well done Letrim
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