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Fair enough AC, but what does tell the whole story is the fact that this Blues team has been blown up as a great team by too many people, but they have failed to deliver on the provincial stage.
Before I get slaughtered by everyone in Drogheda I will go back to "The Great Pats teams" of the last 10 years to see how they faired out in Leinster and the answer is, just slightly better.
My point is that in this county we have a tendancy to blow teams up as great teams, yes they are very good teams within our club scene in Louth but thats as far as it goes.

Starbar (Louth) - Posts: 4 - 26/11/2018 13:49:36    2152474

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Replying To Starbar:  "Fair enough AC, but what does tell the whole story is the fact that this Blues team has been blown up as a great team by too many people, but they have failed to deliver on the provincial stage.
Before I get slaughtered by everyone in Drogheda I will go back to "The Great Pats teams" of the last 10 years to see how they faired out in Leinster and the answer is, just slightly better.
My point is that in this county we have a tendancy to blow teams up as great teams, yes they are very good teams within our club scene in Louth but thats as far as it goes."
........... Just slightly better.

Fantastic achievement. Well done.

Itsme (Louth) - Posts: 396 - 26/11/2018 14:11:21    2152477

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Itsme consistent as ever.

Starbar
I have made the same comments in relation to our clubs in Leinster over the last few years. Lets be honest its great what the DYI have achieved for a small club in Louth but ultimately the county is judged on their Senior champions. Our fortunes at county level mirror our club level simple. If you think of the past great Pats, Mattock and Blues team the current champions are very poor. Only hyped due to the lowering of expectation and the awful standard of football in the county. Before i get the head taken off me, yes there are some great individual players around, but the Blues got beaten by a team who got beaten by 18 pts. That's Longford's 1st ever club in a Senior final. Louth 1 of only 4 counties now in Leinster who have had no Senior club in a final. Mediocrity at its best.

joej (Louth) - Posts: 1503 - 26/11/2018 14:26:23    2152480

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The reason I said "just slightly better" is the fact that they actually got past the first round unlike the Blues team.
But the fact is neither club did anything to be proud of in Leinster. The Sean O'Mahonys are the only Senior Champions in recent history to be happy with their performances in Leinster.

Starbar (Louth) - Posts: 4 - 26/11/2018 14:44:33    2152486

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Replying To joej:  "Itsme consistent as ever.

Starbar
I have made the same comments in relation to our clubs in Leinster over the last few years. Lets be honest its great what the DYI have achieved for a small club in Louth but ultimately the county is judged on their Senior champions. Our fortunes at county level mirror our club level simple. If you think of the past great Pats, Mattock and Blues team the current champions are very poor. Only hyped due to the lowering of expectation and the awful standard of football in the county. Before i get the head taken off me, yes there are some great individual players around, but the Blues got beaten by a team who got beaten by 18 pts. That's Longford's 1st ever club in a Senior final. Louth 1 of only 4 counties now in Leinster who have had no Senior club in a final. Mediocrity at its best."
Joe do you mean that Louth is one of four counties that have never won the Senior Club Championship? Blues (1970), Cooley (1973 and 1976) and Mattock (2002) have all reached the Leinster Senior Club final.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12085 - 26/11/2018 18:19:59    2152515

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Replying To joej:  "Itsme consistent as ever.

Starbar
I have made the same comments in relation to our clubs in Leinster over the last few years. Lets be honest its great what the DYI have achieved for a small club in Louth but ultimately the county is judged on their Senior champions. Our fortunes at county level mirror our club level simple. If you think of the past great Pats, Mattock and Blues team the current champions are very poor. Only hyped due to the lowering of expectation and the awful standard of football in the county. Before i get the head taken off me, yes there are some great individual players around, but the Blues got beaten by a team who got beaten by 18 pts. That's Longford's 1st ever club in a Senior final. Louth 1 of only 4 counties now in Leinster who have had no Senior club in a final. Mediocrity at its best."
What nonsense is this? Sure mattock were in the final before

GAAdundalk (Louth) - Posts: 482 - 26/11/2018 19:08:43    2152522

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Sorry i meant won

joej (Louth) - Posts: 1503 - 26/11/2018 22:23:42    2152537

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Replying To Starbar:  "Fair enough AC, but what does tell the whole story is the fact that this Blues team has been blown up as a great team by too many people, but they have failed to deliver on the provincial stage.
Before I get slaughtered by everyone in Drogheda I will go back to "The Great Pats teams" of the last 10 years to see how they faired out in Leinster and the answer is, just slightly better.
My point is that in this county we have a tendancy to blow teams up as great teams, yes they are very good teams within our club scene in Louth but thats as far as it goes."
Starbar here is a look at the Louth clubs performance in the Leinster Senior Club Championship since 2000:

2000: Blues 0-11 0-05 St Annes (Wexford)
2000: Blues 1-02 1-09 Rhode (Offaly). Rhode reach the Leinster Semi-finals.
2001: Blues 1-07 0-13 Rathnew (Wicklow). Rathnew win the Leinster club Championship and reach All Ireland semi-final.
2002: Mattock 1-09 0-12 Starlights (Wexford)
2002: Mattock 3-12 1-09 Starlights (Wexford)
2002: Mattock 2-11 1-07 Tullamore (Offaly)
2002: Mattock 3-13 2-10 Moorefield (Kildare)
2002: Mattock 0-07 0-13 Dunshaughlin (Meath). Dunshaughlin win the Leinster and reach All Ireland semi-final.
2003: Pats 3-08 0-08 The Downs (Westmeath)
2003: Pats 0-06 0-07 St Brigids (Dublin). Brigids win Leinster and reach the All Ireland semi-final.
2004: Pats 0-06 0-11 Allenwood (Kildare). Allenwood reach the Leinster quarter-finals.
2005: Mattock 1-08 0-10 The Downs (Westmeath)
2005: Mattock 0-10 0-15 Sarsfields (Kildare). Sarsfields reach the Leinster final.
2006: Joes 0-06 0-12 Wolfe Tones (Meath). Wolfe Tones reach the Leinster quarter-final.
2007: Pats 0-05 1-14 Portlaoise (Laoise). Portlaoise reach the Leinster final.
2008: Blues 1-09 1-13 Kilmacud Crokes (Dublin). Kilmacud Crokes win the All Ireland.
2009: Mattock 0-02 2-21 Portlaoise (Laoise). Portlaoise win Leinster and reach the All Ireland semi-final.
2010: Mattock 2-10 2-13 Garrycastle (Westmeath). Garrycastle reach the Leinster semi-final.
2011: Pats 1-14 2-12 Portlaoise (Laoise). Portlaoise reach the Leinster semi-final.
2012: Pats 1-09 1-07 Rhode (Offaly)
2012: Pats 2-06 1-12 Sarsfields (Kildare). Sarsfields reach the Leinster semi-final.
2013: Blues 0-12 1-07 Tullamore (Offaly)
2013: Blues 1-13 2-13 Summerhill (Meath). Summerhill reach the Leinster semi-final.
2014: Pats 0-10 2-09 Rhode (Offaly). Rhode reach the Leinster final.
2015: Pats 0-07 1-08 Ballyboden St Endas (Dublin). Ballyboden St Endas win the All Ireland final.
2016: S.O.M 0-10 0-09 Baltinglass (Wicklow)
2016: S.O.M 1-08 0-08 Sarsfields (Kildare)
2016: S.O.M 1-05 0-12 Rhode (Offaly). Rhode reach the Leinster final.
2017: Blues 0-09 2-06 Rathnew (Wicklow). Rathnew reach the Leinster semi-final.
2018: Blues 0-08 2-09 Eire Og (Carlow). Eire Og reach the Leinster semi-final.

The Wee Counties record in Leinster since 2000:
Played: 30 Won: 10 Draws: 1 Lost: 19 Win Record 33%

Biggest win: 2002 Mattock 3-12 1-09 Starlights (Wexford)
2003 Pats 3-08 0-08 The Downs (Westmeath)
Biggest defeat: 2009 Mattock 0-02 2-21 Portlaoise (Laois)

v Offaly Clubs: Played: 6 Won: 3 Draws: 0 Lost: 3 Win Record: 50%
v Kildare Clubs: Played: 5 Won: 2 Draws: 0 Lost: 3 Win Record: 20%
v Wexford Clubs: Played: 3 Won: 2 Draws: 1 Lost: 0 Win Record: 67%
v Westmeath Clubs: Played: 3 Won: 2 Draws: 0 Lost: 1 Win Record: 67%
v Wicklow Clubs: Played: 3 Won: 1 Draws: 0 Lost: 2 Win Record: 33%
v Dublin Clubs: Played: 3 Won: 0 Draws: 0 Lost: 3 Win Record: 0%
v Meath Clubs: Played: 3 Won: 0 Draws: 0 Lost: 3 Win Record: 0%
v Laois Clubs: Played: 3 Won: 0 Draws: 0 Lost: 3 Win Record: 0%
v Carlow Clubs: Played: 1 Won: 0 Draws: 0 Lost: 1 Win Record: 0%

Five different clubs have represented Louth in this time. Here is their record:

Mattock: Played: 9 Won: 4 Draws: 1 Lost: 4 Win Record: 44%
Pats: Played: 9 Won: 2 Draws: 0 Lost: 7 Win Record: 22%
Blues: Played: 8 Won: 2 Draws: 0 Lost: 6 Win Record: 22%
S.O.M: Played: 3 Won: 2 Draws: 0 Lost: 1 Win Record: 67%
Joes: Played: 1 Won: 0 Draws: 0 Lost: 1 Win Record: 0%

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12085 - 28/11/2018 16:09:27    2152735

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Replying To OLLIE:  "Starbar here is a look at the Louth clubs performance in the Leinster Senior Club Championship since 2000:

2000: Blues 0-11 0-05 St Annes (Wexford)
2000: Blues 1-02 1-09 Rhode (Offaly). Rhode reach the Leinster Semi-finals.
2001: Blues 1-07 0-13 Rathnew (Wicklow). Rathnew win the Leinster club Championship and reach All Ireland semi-final.
2002: Mattock 1-09 0-12 Starlights (Wexford)
2002: Mattock 3-12 1-09 Starlights (Wexford)
2002: Mattock 2-11 1-07 Tullamore (Offaly)
2002: Mattock 3-13 2-10 Moorefield (Kildare)
2002: Mattock 0-07 0-13 Dunshaughlin (Meath). Dunshaughlin win the Leinster and reach All Ireland semi-final.
2003: Pats 3-08 0-08 The Downs (Westmeath)
2003: Pats 0-06 0-07 St Brigids (Dublin). Brigids win Leinster and reach the All Ireland semi-final.
2004: Pats 0-06 0-11 Allenwood (Kildare). Allenwood reach the Leinster quarter-finals.
2005: Mattock 1-08 0-10 The Downs (Westmeath)
2005: Mattock 0-10 0-15 Sarsfields (Kildare). Sarsfields reach the Leinster final.
2006: Joes 0-06 0-12 Wolfe Tones (Meath). Wolfe Tones reach the Leinster quarter-final.
2007: Pats 0-05 1-14 Portlaoise (Laoise). Portlaoise reach the Leinster final.
2008: Blues 1-09 1-13 Kilmacud Crokes (Dublin). Kilmacud Crokes win the All Ireland.
2009: Mattock 0-02 2-21 Portlaoise (Laoise). Portlaoise win Leinster and reach the All Ireland semi-final.
2010: Mattock 2-10 2-13 Garrycastle (Westmeath). Garrycastle reach the Leinster semi-final.
2011: Pats 1-14 2-12 Portlaoise (Laoise). Portlaoise reach the Leinster semi-final.
2012: Pats 1-09 1-07 Rhode (Offaly)
2012: Pats 2-06 1-12 Sarsfields (Kildare). Sarsfields reach the Leinster semi-final.
2013: Blues 0-12 1-07 Tullamore (Offaly)
2013: Blues 1-13 2-13 Summerhill (Meath). Summerhill reach the Leinster semi-final.
2014: Pats 0-10 2-09 Rhode (Offaly). Rhode reach the Leinster final.
2015: Pats 0-07 1-08 Ballyboden St Endas (Dublin). Ballyboden St Endas win the All Ireland final.
2016: S.O.M 0-10 0-09 Baltinglass (Wicklow)
2016: S.O.M 1-08 0-08 Sarsfields (Kildare)
2016: S.O.M 1-05 0-12 Rhode (Offaly). Rhode reach the Leinster final.
2017: Blues 0-09 2-06 Rathnew (Wicklow). Rathnew reach the Leinster semi-final.
2018: Blues 0-08 2-09 Eire Og (Carlow). Eire Og reach the Leinster semi-final.

The Wee Counties record in Leinster since 2000:
Played: 30 Won: 10 Draws: 1 Lost: 19 Win Record 33%

Biggest win: 2002 Mattock 3-12 1-09 Starlights (Wexford)
2003 Pats 3-08 0-08 The Downs (Westmeath)
Biggest defeat: 2009 Mattock 0-02 2-21 Portlaoise (Laois)

v Offaly Clubs: Played: 6 Won: 3 Draws: 0 Lost: 3 Win Record: 50%
v Kildare Clubs: Played: 5 Won: 2 Draws: 0 Lost: 3 Win Record: 20%
v Wexford Clubs: Played: 3 Won: 2 Draws: 1 Lost: 0 Win Record: 67%
v Westmeath Clubs: Played: 3 Won: 2 Draws: 0 Lost: 1 Win Record: 67%
v Wicklow Clubs: Played: 3 Won: 1 Draws: 0 Lost: 2 Win Record: 33%
v Dublin Clubs: Played: 3 Won: 0 Draws: 0 Lost: 3 Win Record: 0%
v Meath Clubs: Played: 3 Won: 0 Draws: 0 Lost: 3 Win Record: 0%
v Laois Clubs: Played: 3 Won: 0 Draws: 0 Lost: 3 Win Record: 0%
v Carlow Clubs: Played: 1 Won: 0 Draws: 0 Lost: 1 Win Record: 0%

Five different clubs have represented Louth in this time. Here is their record:

Mattock: Played: 9 Won: 4 Draws: 1 Lost: 4 Win Record: 44%
Pats: Played: 9 Won: 2 Draws: 0 Lost: 7 Win Record: 22%
Blues: Played: 8 Won: 2 Draws: 0 Lost: 6 Win Record: 22%
S.O.M: Played: 3 Won: 2 Draws: 0 Lost: 1 Win Record: 67%
Joes: Played: 1 Won: 0 Draws: 0 Lost: 1 Win Record: 0%"
Fantastic stats Ollie. Do you work in the stats industry, if not you should!

GAAdundalk (Louth) - Posts: 482 - 28/11/2018 17:40:37    2152744

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Replying To GAAdundalk:  "Fantastic stats Ollie. Do you work in the stats industry, if not you should!"
Cheers GAAdundalk. If they paid me the right money I just might work in the stats industry. I love stats.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12085 - 28/11/2018 18:58:13    2152754

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Replying To GAAdundalk:  "Fantastic stats Ollie. Do you work in the stats industry, if not you should!"
Powerful stuff Ollie. You must be on a mid-term break putting all that together.
Our record is not great but we had a number of near misses.
Two minor corrections
V Kildare clubs 40%
Blues win record 25%

19616609 (Louth) - Posts: 1348 - 28/11/2018 19:04:40    2152755

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Replying To 19616609:  "Powerful stuff Ollie. You must be on a mid-term break putting all that together.
Our record is not great but we had a number of near misses.
Two minor corrections
V Kildare clubs 40%
Blues win record 25%"
That's right 19616609. Typo on my behalf with the Louth clubs record against Kildare and the Blues win record. Talking about near misses in 2008 the Blues took the Kilmacud Crokes to extra time in their match at Parnell Park. The Crokes won by 4 points in the end and they went on to win the All Ireland.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12085 - 28/11/2018 19:30:15    2152758

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Hard to believe that in all those years mentioned, only mattock and SOM have won 2 matches in a row or more

GAAdundalk (Louth) - Posts: 482 - 28/11/2018 20:32:09    2152767

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Replying To GAAdundalk:  "Hard to believe that in all those years mentioned, only mattock and SOM have won 2 matches in a row or more"
In 2012 when the Pats beat Rhode, It was the first time in 7 years that a Louth had won in Leinster. Louth clubs lost 6 on the bounce before that and half of these defeats were to Portlaoise. The Pats (2007 and 2011) and Mattock (2009) both lost to the midlands side. In the last 18 years, Portlaoise is the club that Louth clubs have lost to the most times.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12085 - 28/11/2018 21:36:29    2152776

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Replying To OLLIE:  "In 2012 when the Pats beat Rhode, It was the first time in 7 years that a Louth had won in Leinster. Louth clubs lost 6 on the bounce before that and half of these defeats were to Portlaoise. The Pats (2007 and 2011) and Mattock (2009) both lost to the midlands side. In the last 18 years, Portlaoise is the club that Louth clubs have lost to the most times."
Is it true that they only have one GAA team in the Town limits of Portlaosie, which I checked is 20,000 plus. It would account for their success, I believe they won Lenister on most occasions, unless you tell me otherwise

GAAdundalk (Louth) - Posts: 482 - 28/11/2018 22:39:49    2152783

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Replying To Starbar:  "The reason I said "just slightly better" is the fact that they actually got past the first round unlike the Blues team.
But the fact is neither club did anything to be proud of in Leinster. The Sean O'Mahonys are the only Senior Champions in recent history to be happy with their performances in Leinster."
Listening to much to Wooley on the GAA hour. Portlaois have the joint most Leinsters with Vincents (7 each) but Portlaois have only won it twice since the turn of the century while Vincents have won 4.

BluenYellow (Louth) - Posts: 103 - 29/11/2018 12:18:10    2152819

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Replying To GAAdundalk:  "Is it true that they only have one GAA team in the Town limits of Portlaosie, which I checked is 20,000 plus. It would account for their success, I believe they won Lenister on most occasions, unless you tell me otherwise"
Yes there is only one GAA club in the town with a population of 22,000 making it the largest town in the midlands. They have won eleven of the last twelve senior Laois titles. It would have been twelve in a row only for Stradbally to score a last minute goal against them in 2016 to snatch the title and win it by a point. Look at Crossmaglen Rangers. They have won twenty titles in twenty-three years and their population is only 1,500.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12085 - 29/11/2018 15:44:45    2152837

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Replying To OLLIE:  "That's right 19616609. Typo on my behalf with the Louth clubs record against Kildare and the Blues win record. Talking about near misses in 2008 the Blues took the Kilmacud Crokes to extra time in their match at Parnell Park. The Crokes won by 4 points in the end and they went on to win the All Ireland."
The Blues could of won that match only it was a very young team that was inexperienced in Leinster.

blueforever (Louth) - Posts: 14 - 29/11/2018 23:50:23    2152872

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Best of luck to DYI tomorrow and hopefully they can become the fourth Louth club after the Gaels, Gers and S.O.M to win a Leinster football championship title.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12085 - 07/12/2018 21:28:56    2153644

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Congrats to DYI on their brilliant win, never say die attitude when it looked like the game was dead and buried. They could go all they way with that belief...so that's 4 Louth clubs that have win a Lenister, and all from North Louth... :-)

GAAdundalk (Louth) - Posts: 482 - 08/12/2018 16:37:22    2153686

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