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Football Squad 2019.

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Will Jack find any new players in the latter stages of the championship? Anyone new players out there worth a go?

the21yardline (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 10/10/2018 10:27:03    2145900

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paddy fagan

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1111 - 10/10/2018 10:36:21    2145903

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Paddy Fagan of Mullingar Shamrocks for sure, probably the stand out non senior county player in the SFC this year.
Looking at the rest of the two finalists, Micheal Curley and David Whelan have stood put but have been there before.
Nigel Harte of Tyrellspass, Adam Loughlin and Joseph Moran of The Downs, Finbar Coyne of Milltownpass should all be stepping up from the County U20's. Pettit from Rosemount, Kavanagh from Shandonagh perhaps ?
Goalkeeper should be interesting with the possibility of some young guns stepping up to the plate.
Watch out for Trevor Martin from The Downs. U18 this year but got a chance with the seniors and took it. Also outstanding in minor final and kicked a few crucial frees. He'll serve his time with county U20's first but a very decent prospect.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 611 - 10/10/2018 23:36:48    2146013

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the problem here; the predominant names are coming from senior clubs - lomans, shamrocks, downs. westmeath club football is very weak; characterised by their performances outside wm. the new management shoukd do a root and branch review of talent from senior to junior ( open trials) and objectively determine talent on merit and capabilities ( not what club the player comes from). Clean out the current panel as they have been getting slaughtered in previous championship games. if not; we willget the same results and outcome next year( early exit..again) with weaker counties passing us out like leitrim, carlow

Rossieruan (Westmeath) - Posts: 71 - 12/10/2018 15:31:07    2146245

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How is westmeath club football considered weak based on performances outside county. Three Leinster titles available last year, multy won the junior comfortably against Erin rovers, St Lomans were easily the best club side in Leinster and rochfortbridge beat the offaly champions before losing at the semi final stage. This forum is about opinions but opinions married to a small degree of fact.

Bellewest (Westmeath) - Posts: 40 - 12/10/2018 16:17:07    2146253

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Could do worse that what Laois are doing:
[url=]https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/laois-new-trial-system-senior-team-stroke-genius-john-sugrue-178073
Divided the county into 4 regional teams = players from all grades involved and at least 3 games.
Proceeds go to local special needs school.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 611 - 12/10/2018 16:46:10    2146255

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Replying To Bellewest:  "How is westmeath club football considered weak based on performances outside county. Three Leinster titles available last year, multy won the junior comfortably against Erin rovers, St Lomans were easily the best club side in Leinster and rochfortbridge beat the offaly champions before losing at the semi final stage. This forum is about opinions but opinions married to a small degree of fact."
nope..lomans beaten in leinster by moorefield ( whi were 'the' best leinster team last year) who were then comprehensively beaten by corofin. to your other point on junior ( multi) who went much further than lomans in all ireland; how many of those players got selected for wm? endorsing my original point that club at senior level is very weak AND there should more open selection down to junior level than defaulting to weak senior players from senior clubs ( historical results being obvious)

Rossieruan (Westmeath) - Posts: 71 - 12/10/2018 17:45:49    2146262

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Don't let facts get in the way of your argument. Corofin scored a late goal to beat moorefield by three points, hardly comprehensive in anyone's eyes. Multy had Ronan Wallace and Anthony mcgivney on the westmeath panel last year. Not sure if any other multy players would be senior county material. Ian McGovern would be but he went travelling. Three players from a junior club is pretty good. Milltownpass and shandonagh had 7-8 players on the county panel, pretty impressive for two intermediate sides.

Bellewest (Westmeath) - Posts: 40 - 12/10/2018 21:30:52    2146293

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Westmeath had a huge number of clubs represented on the panel last year. Off the top of my head the following clubs all had representatives at one stage or another:

Loman's
Shamrocks
Tyrellspass
Garrycastle
Athlone
The Downs
Killucan
Kinnegad
Rosemount
Rochfortbridge
Castledaly
Maryland
Milltownpass
Shandonagh
Tang
Tubberclair
Malachy's
Multyfarnham
Kilbeggan

That's at least 19 clubs supplying between 30 and 40 players. So I don't think it's fair to say that players are only being selected because they play for certain clubs.

anon (None) - Posts: 315 - 13/10/2018 08:29:04    2146311

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so lads all our teams are out of leinster . jack cooney will have a full deck to choose from
any new players ready to make the step up

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1111 - 30/10/2018 17:48:52    2148771

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Replying To mickcunningham:  "so lads all our teams are out of leinster . jack cooney will have a full deck to choose from
any new players ready to make the step up"
It will be very interesting to see the squad, I wonder how many of the previous group will commit to the cause.
Has Jack had any negative replies to his invitations.???

Kuga (Westmeath) - Posts: 27 - 30/10/2018 19:12:57    2148785

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I expect Jack is working on getting together a panel now. Be interesting to see all the new faces as I'm sure there will be plenty. Unfortunately it looks like Sharry is not available again and a few of the other key players from Loman's which is disappointing.

I'd like to see Fagan from Shamrocks given a chance as he has had an outstanding year. I thought Billy Flynn looked good against Moorefield last weekend when he came on; I understand he has been out injured the last two years so he wouldn't have played u20/u21.

Matthew (None) - Posts: 887 - 31/10/2018 12:58:58    2148858

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I love the idea that the next Dessie Dolan or John Heslin is hiding waiting to be discovered in some mythical Junior team. It is not going to happen. The commitment and conditioning to play at this level is huge. Anyone who has not played county senior or Sigerson level football is 2 years away from making an impact at senior level.

wonit1time (Westmeath) - Posts: 448 - 01/11/2018 08:02:03    2148966

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Replying To wonit1time:  "I love the idea that the next Dessie Dolan or John Heslin is hiding waiting to be discovered in some mythical Junior team. It is not going to happen. The commitment and conditioning to play at this level is huge. Anyone who has not played county senior or Sigerson level football is 2 years away from making an impact at senior level."
Very true only players I can see going to another level is maybe Ronan o toole or paddy Fagan, luke loughlin is one of our better players already but with the right coaching and conditioning would be our main man

Pintman13 (Westmeath) - Posts: 10 - 01/11/2018 10:13:54    2148988

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Have players started their gym programmes yet?

XPAC (Westmeath) - Posts: 85 - 01/11/2018 11:01:59    2149003

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Replying To Pintman13:  "Very true only players I can see going to another level is maybe Ronan o toole or paddy Fagan, luke loughlin is one of our better players already but with the right coaching and conditioning would be our main man"
nope. luke loughlin got easily man marked v shamrocks by moore. paddy fagan is emerging ( mediocre) versus moorefield. billy flynn ( mentioned in another thread) too small; soent most of game in deck versus lomans. overall i think we have big challenges ahead; sharry, demosey ( even uf come back) were majorly exposed versus shamrocks. maybe we simply are a division 3 county( hoping i am wrong). we need a but of aggression/ hunger; guys like moore from shamrocks, scally from shandonagh, mcgivney multi etc

Rossieruan (Westmeath) - Posts: 71 - 03/11/2018 21:51:35    2149454

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I think 2019 will be the weakest we have been in years, Nothing coming through at all.

the21yardline (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 06/11/2018 03:46:08    2149770

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Replying To the21yardline:  "I think 2019 will be the weakest we have been in years, Nothing coming through at all."
I do not agree. There are plenty of players coming through a loads of clubs within the county. How to use them is more the question and what are the realistic targets we should aim at. Forget about championship and work on league. The long game regards developing players now should be the aim.

Convert1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 7 - 06/11/2018 17:28:45    2149928

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Any word on that the squad yet? Is it true that Heslin will also not be playing in 2019? Hard to be optimistic if he is not playing with Sharry & Dempsey also not available. There will be plenty of new faces given a chance by Jack anyways. Who else is part of the management team other than Cathal Mullin and Paschal Kelleghan?

Matthew (None) - Posts: 887 - 12/11/2018 08:02:03    2150705

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i havent heard anything about john heslin . but i will say this . i travelled to see rhode play mullaghnahta on sunday
in tullamore . if that is the type of football we have to endure under the cooney management . it is painful to watch
so any attack minded player will have to change his whole mindset to fit in to that way of playing . it might be a painful year but i wait and see

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1111 - 12/11/2018 09:42:55    2150721

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