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So here is the Sunday Game team of the year

The Sunday Game Team of the Year

1. Stephen Cluxton (Dublin)

2. Jonny Cooper (Dublin)

3. Padraig Hampsey (Tyrone)

4. Eoghan Ban Gallagher (Donegal)

5. Karl O'Connell (Monaghan)

6. James McCarthy (Dublin)

7. Jack McCaffrey (Dublin)

8. Brian Fenton (Dublin)

9. Colm Cavanagh (Tyrone)

10. Shane Walsh (Galway)

11. Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin)

12. Brian Howard (Dublin)

13. Paul Mannion (Dublin)

14. Conor McManus (Monaghan)

15. David Clifford (Kerry)

Agree broadly with the places - however would question Cluxton's no. 1 place.

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 02/09/2018 23:26:19    2138579

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Replying To greysoil:  "So here is the Sunday Game team of the year

The Sunday Game Team of the Year

1. Stephen Cluxton (Dublin)

2. Jonny Cooper (Dublin)

3. Padraig Hampsey (Tyrone)

4. Eoghan Ban Gallagher (Donegal)

5. Karl O'Connell (Monaghan)

6. James McCarthy (Dublin)

7. Jack McCaffrey (Dublin)

8. Brian Fenton (Dublin)

9. Colm Cavanagh (Tyrone)

10. Shane Walsh (Galway)

11. Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin)

12. Brian Howard (Dublin)

13. Paul Mannion (Dublin)

14. Conor McManus (Monaghan)

15. David Clifford (Kerry)

Agree broadly with the places - however would question Cluxton's no. 1 place."
And maybe Drew Wylies omission... But I can see why he didnt make it, no final place, Monaghan cant really expect any more than whats there..

I would say that Beggans brain fart in the last few minutes v Tyrone shaded it for Cluxton...

derekm58 (Monaghan) - Posts: 24 - 03/09/2018 11:19:55    2138712

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Cluxton is a great 'modern' keeper. It's probably more important to retain possession than anything else. However he has a weakness under a high ball which he shows time and time again, like the Comer goal and against Kerry in the semi 2 years ago. I find that a trait which always holds him back from being the goalie GOAT.

I'm biased but i feel Brody was the best but left the championship early. Beggan a close 2nd.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 03/09/2018 11:37:25    2138724

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Beggan was caught under the high ball against Fermanagh which lost them the game . He also kicked the ball away against Tyrone which lost them the game and a chance at getting into an All Ireland. The only reason I would have Beggan ahead of Cluxton for an All Star is because of his free taking

dubshurling7 (Dublin) - Posts: 1017 - 03/09/2018 11:48:06    2138733

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Replying To dubshurling7:  "Beggan was caught under the high ball against Fermanagh which lost them the game . He also kicked the ball away against Tyrone which lost them the game and a chance at getting into an All Ireland. The only reason I would have Beggan ahead of Cluxton for an All Star is because of his free taking"
Cluxton missed a few games and made his fair share of mistakes. I'd have Beggans kickouts ahead of cluxton this year too. Two great keepers but based on their year i'd go with RB.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 03/09/2018 12:17:48    2138754

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Replying To dubshurling7:  "Beggan was caught under the high ball against Fermanagh which lost them the game . He also kicked the ball away against Tyrone which lost them the game and a chance at getting into an All Ireland. The only reason I would have Beggan ahead of Cluxton for an All Star is because of his free taking"
You're acting like Cluxton was faultless all year. He made an awful blunder for Comer's goal, and hit a few dodgy kickouts early on yesterday. On top of that, he didn't even play every game this year because of injury.

I'm biased of course but I can't see why Cluxton should get it ahead of Beggan this year. He's the all time great gk and revolutionized the position, but that doesn't give him the all star as a default every year. He was hard done by in other years yes, but Beggan shouldn't be punished for that.

patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 03/09/2018 12:56:39    2138770

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I don't know why everyone simply mentions Beggan and Cluxton only. Just because you don't make the Super 8s doesn't mean a player should be forgotten. Brody was great against all teams, Carlow, Dublin and especially Monaghan and his kickouts were top notch too. Same old story with All Stars and teams of the year, people have short memories and it's nigh on impossible for a player to make the team that didn't make the semi finals. At least David Clifford should make it.

The Super 8s are only adding to the amnesia of the earlier part of the championship. It's going to make it impossible for the players from weaker counties, like Tipp in the late 1990s and Declan Browne, to get an All Star. John Galvin of Limerick lost out on a midfield berth because of this on a few occasions.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 03/09/2018 13:11:00    2138778

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What sickens me about Sunday Game punditry was stuff like Tomas O'Se and Ciaran Whelan agreeing in June that Brody was the best goalkeeper in the country right now. He then has a massive game against Monaghan in July. Yet now it's between Beggan and Cluxton! Bizarre.

Tomas O'Se was even having an argument with himself last night. After saying Cluxton was the basis for everything about Dublin and would be his player of the year when asked by Des Cahill to name his player of the year says Ciaran Kilkenny!!

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 03/09/2018 13:22:58    2138783

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No Ian burke is the most surprising thing from it apart from that I'd broadl agree.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/09/2018 13:35:24    2138788

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This is the Sunday game team of the year etc the real one won't look anything like it. And I wonder who the ABD (anybody but a Dub) POTY is going to be?

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 03/09/2018 13:40:45    2138792

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Cluxton missed a few games and made his fair share of mistakes. I'd have Beggans kickouts ahead of cluxton this year too. Two great keepers but based on their year i'd go with RB."
So would I.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 03/09/2018 13:46:43    2138795

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Replying To BliainanÁir:  "I don't know why everyone simply mentions Beggan and Cluxton only. Just because you don't make the Super 8s doesn't mean a player should be forgotten. Brody was great against all teams, Carlow, Dublin and especially Monaghan and his kickouts were top notch too. Same old story with All Stars and teams of the year, people have short memories and it's nigh on impossible for a player to make the team that didn't make the semi finals. At least David Clifford should make it.

The Super 8s are only adding to the amnesia of the earlier part of the championship. It's going to make it impossible for the players from weaker counties, like Tipp in the late 1990s and Declan Browne, to get an All Star. John Galvin of Limerick lost out on a midfield berth because of this on a few occasions."
The Laois lads would want to relax, rightly to he's not in the running when two keepers such as Cluxton & Beggan have been so instrumental in theirs teams success. I'd have given it too Beggan and think he'll get an All Star, his free taking was just sublime this year and I'd have his kickouts as now on a par with Cluxton.

I think the only questionable ones from last night are Gallagher & Cluxton and would be amazed if any of other 13 players don't get an All Star.

I think there's a small chance Eoghan Kerin might get one over Gallagher, he had a brilliant season. Drew Wylie has a chance too but think with Beggan, O'Connell & McManus getting ones too they won't give 4 to Monaghan.

Sludden had a great season and is very unlucky to miss out but don't think he deserves one ahead of Walsh, Kilkenny or Howard.

Ian Burke had a brilliant championship and is probably the closer to getting in that full forward line but its not going to happen.

Think this years All Stars are a lot more straight forward than previous years.

JDF (Galway) - Posts: 322 - 03/09/2018 13:52:12    2138796

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Replying To BliainanÁir:  "I don't know why everyone simply mentions Beggan and Cluxton only. Just because you don't make the Super 8s doesn't mean a player should be forgotten. Brody was great against all teams, Carlow, Dublin and especially Monaghan and his kickouts were top notch too. Same old story with All Stars and teams of the year, people have short memories and it's nigh on impossible for a player to make the team that didn't make the semi finals. At least David Clifford should make it.

The Super 8s are only adding to the amnesia of the earlier part of the championship. It's going to make it impossible for the players from weaker counties, like Tipp in the late 1990s and Declan Browne, to get an All Star. John Galvin of Limerick lost out on a midfield berth because of this on a few occasions."
Yes indeed. It was sinful choosing Aidan Walsh from Cork ahead of John Galvin in 2010. SINFUL!

shoulderghost (Limerick) - Posts: 863 - 03/09/2018 14:11:35    2138803

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Replying To patk:  "You're acting like Cluxton was faultless all year. He made an awful blunder for Comer's goal, and hit a few dodgy kickouts early on yesterday. On top of that, he didn't even play every game this year because of injury.

I'm biased of course but I can't see why Cluxton should get it ahead of Beggan this year. He's the all time great gk and revolutionized the position, but that doesn't give him the all star as a default every year. He was hard done by in other years yes, but Beggan shouldn't be punished for that."
In fairness everything you've said about Cluxton could be said about Beggan too except the injury keeping Cluxton outta one game.

Beggan was, maybe, marginally better than Stephen Cluxton but probably behind Briody if we're honest.

As always with these things people can't see past county loyalty. Both Beggan and Cluxton made mistakes this year but both had great years overall. You're accusing other posters of acting like Cluxton was faultless but you're doing the same thing as regards Beggan, who wasn't faultless either.

I'd have Beggan ahead of Cluxton but only marginally. Having thought about it the case for Briody is the strongest of them all but it'll come down to the 2 bigger names.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 03/09/2018 14:13:24    2138804

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Replying To JDF:  "The Laois lads would want to relax, rightly to he's not in the running when two keepers such as Cluxton & Beggan have been so instrumental in theirs teams success. I'd have given it too Beggan and think he'll get an All Star, his free taking was just sublime this year and I'd have his kickouts as now on a par with Cluxton.

I think the only questionable ones from last night are Gallagher & Cluxton and would be amazed if any of other 13 players don't get an All Star.

I think there's a small chance Eoghan Kerin might get one over Gallagher, he had a brilliant season. Drew Wylie has a chance too but think with Beggan, O'Connell & McManus getting ones too they won't give 4 to Monaghan.

Sludden had a great season and is very unlucky to miss out but don't think he deserves one ahead of Walsh, Kilkenny or Howard.

Ian Burke had a brilliant championship and is probably the closer to getting in that full forward line but its not going to happen.

Think this years All Stars are a lot more straight forward than previous years."
Eoghan Ban deserves to be there and there could be an argument made for Ryan McHugh too. If McBrearty didn't get injured I think he would have been a shoe in.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 03/09/2018 14:13:58    2138805

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Replying To JDF:  "The Laois lads would want to relax, rightly to he's not in the running when two keepers such as Cluxton & Beggan have been so instrumental in theirs teams success. I'd have given it too Beggan and think he'll get an All Star, his free taking was just sublime this year and I'd have his kickouts as now on a par with Cluxton.

I think the only questionable ones from last night are Gallagher & Cluxton and would be amazed if any of other 13 players don't get an All Star.

I think there's a small chance Eoghan Kerin might get one over Gallagher, he had a brilliant season. Drew Wylie has a chance too but think with Beggan, O'Connell & McManus getting ones too they won't give 4 to Monaghan.

Sludden had a great season and is very unlucky to miss out but don't think he deserves one ahead of Walsh, Kilkenny or Howard.

Ian Burke had a brilliant championship and is probably the closer to getting in that full forward line but its not going to happen.

Think this years All Stars are a lot more straight forward than previous years."
Very silly argument re. Beggan and Cluxton. Brody was instrumental in getting a mediocre team to a Leinster final. Put Cluxton there or Beggan and see would they do any better.

You're just trotting out names from the later end of the championship. Not the best 15. The all stars always turns out to be picked in the manner your thinking unfortunately.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 03/09/2018 14:37:41    2138817

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Cluxton becuase none of his errors cost Dublin. He commits errors sure, but over the years coming down the home straight, when the pressure is really on he doesn't. He usually make 2 or 3 errors in a row than flawless rest of a game.

Also there is more to his game than kickouts, he marshalls that defense and is a true leader. He is so driven he drives the rest. read Dublin Sub Confidential and see how his 'madness' drives the rest of the team.

No All-Star since 2013 is beyond crazy when you look at his consistency in League and Championship.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 03/09/2018 14:56:07    2138828

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Eoghan Ban deserves to be there and there could be an argument made for Ryan McHugh too. If McBrearty didn't get injured I think he would have been a shoe in."
Ryan McHugh ahead of who?

JDF (Galway) - Posts: 322 - 03/09/2018 15:06:45    2138834

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Replying To BliainanÁir:  "Very silly argument re. Beggan and Cluxton. Brody was instrumental in getting a mediocre team to a Leinster final. Put Cluxton there or Beggan and see would they do any better.

You're just trotting out names from the later end of the championship. Not the best 15. The all stars always turns out to be picked in the manner your thinking unfortunately."
Beggan was instrumental in getting his team to an All Ireland semi final, nobody in the country can kick frees from the distances he can keep and in pressure moments in front of huge crowds.

JDF (Galway) - Posts: 322 - 03/09/2018 15:08:24    2138836

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Replying To MesAmis:  "In fairness everything you've said about Cluxton could be said about Beggan too except the injury keeping Cluxton outta one game.

Beggan was, maybe, marginally better than Stephen Cluxton but probably behind Briody if we're honest.

As always with these things people can't see past county loyalty. Both Beggan and Cluxton made mistakes this year but both had great years overall. You're accusing other posters of acting like Cluxton was faultless but you're doing the same thing as regards Beggan, who wasn't faultless either.

I'd have Beggan ahead of Cluxton but only marginally. Having thought about it the case for Briody is the strongest of them all but it'll come down to the 2 bigger names."
Well Beggan's faults were already outlined, I was responding to a post mentioning every little bad thing he did. So there's no need for me to go over it again. As I say bias inevitably comes into it, but I do think Beggan edges it based on this year. He had a fabtatskc

I understand those mentioning Brody and he does deserve a shout and probably a nomination, but that's where I would draw the line imo. For a position like GK, someone like Brody in Laois will of course be busier than Cluxton or Beggan, so has more of a chance to show off their shot stopping abilities. Cluxton and Beggan imo were more influential in bigger games with their all round games.

patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 03/09/2018 15:18:02    2138842

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