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This year's final was fixed for Limerick. Fair enough a neutral venue and accessible to both participants, Tipperary and Cork. Except that way back in 2010 Tipperary and Galway reached the final and it was fixed for Thurles, Galway naturally were not happy having to play Tipperary in the 'home' venue. The GAA countered that Thurles was going to be the U 21 Hurling Final venue in future and told Galway in fairly forceful terms 'to get on with it'. Antrim were brought all the way to Thurles to play Clare in the final a few years ago as 'Thurles was the U 21 Hurling Final venue. Then low and behold 2018 arrives and Tipperary qualify to play Cork in the final....there is no mention of Thurles being the final venue, it was simply fixed for Limerick. The Galway team of 2010 can rightly feel cheated as can the Antrim team of a few years later. Did the GAA know that they would not have a chance in hell of forcing Cork to go to Thurles? I bet they did and the permanent venue for the U 21 hurling Final was conveniently forgotten about. Hypocrisy. MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 26/08/2018 19:33:30 2136673 Link 3 |
What a game of hurling unbelievable hits from both sides never say die ,Tipp just about deserved it but Cork were brilliant aswell. Well done Tipp unlucky Cork will be seeing a lot of these young men playing senior very soon for both teams. Still bugs me there's no under 21 after this year ridiculous. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 26/08/2018 19:52:06 2136674 Link 3 |
I thought i has been unfair for years to have Tipp play a "neutral venue" game at Thurles, as for your question i have no idea, if cork did refuse to play there they had every right not to, maybe they didnt want another bad publicity if cork came out in public to say the wouldn't play at thurles PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 26/08/2018 19:52:54 2136675 Link 0 |
Yeh, strange one that. Another exciting finish in a season full of them. Tipp showed a lot of character to win that in second half. How did ref make that desperate error booking Cork 5 instead of a second yellow for the 6. Thankfully it didnt matter in the end. Well played Tipp. conordee (Galway) - Posts: 440 - 26/08/2018 20:16:01 2136676 Link 0 |
Very serious refereeing error.It would have been controversial if Tipp lost.Two fine teams and Tipp just deserved it.Big turnaround from the Munster Final.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2168 - 26/08/2018 20:27:04 2136677 Link 0 |
Great win by Tipp, fair play to them. Hopefully 5 or 6 of them will get a chance with the Seniors now. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 26/08/2018 20:27:48 2136678 Link 0 |
"Unfair for years"? Tipp haven't contested an Under 21 final since 2010, so they enjoyed "home advantage" just once, and while that may have been tough on Galway, the one-sided nature of the game scarcely suggested that they were "cheated" as some other poster has suggested. I don't know why Croke Park appear to have changed their position but it's surely not Tipperary's fault.
midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 544 - 26/08/2018 20:58:09 2136682 Link 0 |
2010 at the very start of the year thurles was announced as the under 21 final venue....galway fans (and players) bycotted the final, after that it was said that thurles was the under 21 venue for future all ireland finals except ones involving tipp. Its stupid to have it set in stone though, for antrim game should have been portlaoise/dublin probably...most other games it would go without saying looking at the hurling geography that thurles would be the natural final venue tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 26/08/2018 21:14:49 2136686 Link 0 |
Mother of God Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 26/08/2018 22:04:40 2136694 Link 0 |
Thanks, Ban. Hugh sigh of relief after the final whistle. I am so happy for those players because most of the ones who won an All minor in 2016 will be overage next year for the new under 20 championship. Also, they avenged the 2015 minor final defeat to Galway in the semi-final. They are a great bunch of players, fingers crossed 5 or 6 will be regular starters for the seniors soon.
Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 27/08/2018 14:42:20 2136807 Link 0 |
Well done to Tipp.. They did deserve to win. They set out their stall early. Declan Dalton got a nice late tackle from a Tipp player and Cork lads stood and took it instead of giving it back. Tipp players were up for. No doubt Cork were too but maybe they believed their own hype or were not expecting a ferocious battle. I am not sure. Players like Liam Healy and Jack O'Connor (really good players) didn't get near the ball. Tim O'Mahony was poor and Shane Kingston gave a typical performance. He is Ok with ball in hand and in space (sometimes, his atrocious miss at the end will haunt him) but can't win it, not physical or tenacious enough and rarely influences the game. Needs to be cut from senior squad. There were positives. Robbie O'Flynn, Conor Cahalane were very good. Bill Hennessy is a fine wing back.. Whether he and Coleman can play together at senior or not remains to be seen. Both very light. Despite the loss, it is not all doom and gloom. We lost by three points. We could have won it. The better team did win it and well done to them. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 27/08/2018 17:52:40 2136868 Link 0 |
Clondalkin, is it U20 hurling next year ?
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 27/08/2018 18:20:41 2136873 Link 0 |
Im not talking u21, they also played a an All-Ireland QF there a few years ago
PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 28/08/2018 10:17:17 2136990 Link 0 |
yes it is a disgrace that this is being changed to u20 next year. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 28/08/2018 11:15:07 2137025 Link 0 |
I'm sure PUC will be pushing for senior quarter finals over next few years and maybe Cork may benefit of a home quarter final. For me personally the u21 venue should not be decided in advance until the finalists are known. With the new back door now bar Tipp been in the final Thurles looks a likely venue for all games. On another point we played Dublin in a quarter final in thurles 2014 and a qualifier in 2017. Tipp county board didnt push for these games given both were double headers we benefited from the other teams involved. Unfortunately the Dubs were the opposition on both occasions and many people referenced their footballers get Croker so had no sympathy. Guess when your a county like Louth Longford Laois Wexford etc having to play in Croker against the dubs when your the Dublin hurling team you fall into that minority that can't catch a break and your venue gets picked without compromise. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 28/08/2018 11:34:48 2137042 Link 0 |
Was delighted for those Tipp lads on Sunday. Real gutsy performance against a classy Cork team. Hopefully, as has been said, a few get a chance at senior but that was a day to remember for them either way. Only downside was there wasn't much sign of a ball winning half forward! roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 28/08/2018 12:17:50 2137058 Link 1 |
pairc ui chaoimh should never be given another quarter final,it is guaranteed 2-3 munster championship games. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 28/08/2018 13:59:24 2137118 Link 0 |
Agreed defo not for any Munster v Leinster quarter final. Don't think anyone likes going to Cork!!! WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 29/08/2018 11:31:11 2137352 Link 0 |
yes it is a disgrace that this is being changed to u20 next year. DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 29/08/2018 13:54:46 2137392 Link 0 |
u21 has for years been the best grade in hurling.ok this year the senior has probably eclipsed it,but up to this year it has year in year out provided great games as the norm. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 30/08/2018 09:00:47 2137587 Link 0 |