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No . Teams would sit back, flood the defence and force the opposition to shoot from distance . It would be a disastrous introduction .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 25/08/2018 17:06:21 2136522 Link 0 |
Donaghy is wrong. It's the setup of defending teams that would lead you to compare some of these games to basketball matches. The defensive "zone" setup to stifle the Dublin attack is akin to zonal defence around the key in basketball. Penalising the attacking team by forcing them to shoot while the other team parks the bus is unfair. Scoring a point from 45m is a lot more difficult than scoring 3 from outside the 3 point line in basketball. If teams went man to man then there would be no resemblence to basketball. Keep 4 men in the opposing half may be a better solution.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 26/08/2018 09:11:26 2136587 Link 0 |
Ciarán Kilkenny is the point guard of the attack. It's very fair to comment on the basketball style approach of the attack.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7857 - 26/08/2018 12:37:28 2136605 Link 0 |
I couldn't agree more. A 'marking zone' for free kicks, 45s, line-balls & goal kicks caught cleanly within the two 21 metre lines would be a great addition to the game. Not sure about allowing the 'mark' as in International Rules games though. Another good rule would be to allow the body charge as is allowed in 'Australian Rules' ie; (a frontal or side to side charge, but where a charge to the back is penalised).
PatdeVerse (Dublin) - Posts: 107 - 26/08/2018 12:54:59 2136613 Link 0 |
link GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 26/08/2018 18:58:42 2136669 Link 2 |
Ciarán Kilkenny is the point guard of the attack. It's very fair to comment on the basketball style approach of the attack."]Yes the game may be basketball like but this is down to teams mass defending (in zone) against Dublin. Dublin don't setup to pass the ball around a 15 man zonal defence. It's the 15 men glued into their 45 that necessitates this approach. If you watch the Dublin Mayo games of the past 3 years you'll note that this didn't happen, the ball was let in as Mayo went toe to toe with the Dubs. Yes Kilkenny is the equivalent of a Pirlo midfield general. He has seamlessly slotted into the role vacated by Alan Brogan.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 27/08/2018 08:54:19 2136725 Link 0 |
The shot clock would be difficult to ref, we have enough trouble with the 70 mins. I think go to 13 a side get rid of subs for unlimited interchange limited to 5 players and reduce squads to 20-23. duckula20 (Antrim) - Posts: 175 - 27/08/2018 10:02:06 2136744 Link 0 |
Can't see it reduci g fatigue that much. 13 players covering the same pitch 15 covered before. Would only be a short while before coaches develop defensive sweeper-type tactics. I think any positive changes are great but a positive atitude from coaches will be the biggest change. Too many players playing to a rigid gameplan and less and less individual brilliance, unfortunately.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 28/08/2018 21:21:04 2137295 Link 2 |
No way, too much panicking and subsequently hoofing. Be just like old times :D realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 30/08/2018 01:32:40 2137564 Link 2 |
If a shot clock was introduced ...jesus the standard of shooting will be head in the hands stuff. someone having a good root at the posts and kicking 30 yards wide woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 30/08/2018 12:08:05 2137638 Link 0 |
Should definitely be a time limit to take a free based on a player in the vicinity taking it. Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 30/08/2018 12:59:05 2137649 Link 0 |
Totally agree with you, plenty of time gets wasted watching goalkeepers come up to take frees, its even become a time wasting tactic these days. Shane Walsh takes a while too to kick his free, excellent and all as he is at them. A shot clock from play would be pointless, mass defences waiting on the clock to run down and someone will ultimately balloon a Hail Mary. Then the ball goes down the other end and we go through the same procedure again.
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 30/08/2018 13:08:05 2137654 Link 2 |
Ciarán Kilkenny is the point guard of the attack. It's very fair to comment on the basketball style approach of the attack."]Yes the game may be basketball like but this is down to teams mass defending (in zone) against Dublin. Dublin don't setup to pass the ball around a 15 man zonal defence. It's the 15 men glued into their 45 that necessitates this approach. If you watch the Dublin Mayo games of the past 3 years you'll note that this didn't happen, the ball was let in as Mayo went toe to toe with the Dubs. Yes Kilkenny is the equivalent of a Pirlo midfield general. He has seamlessly slotted into the role vacated by Alan Brogan."]And Dublin don't set up a 14 man defence?
mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 31/08/2018 10:29:55 2137849 Link 1 |
Clearly a post from somone who doesn't undertstand the issues turning people off the game. People don't want blanket defences. The don't want endless handpassing. The don't want negative styles of play. People want more of a contest for the ball all around the field. Peole want more open attacking football to be played. Juts because scoring is up does not mean the game is more entertaining scoring is higher because players are more skilful but the game is caught in an awful negative stalmate at the moment because the rules haven't adjusted as tactics have.The game needs to be saved from itself or it will gradually lose it's appeal. FreddieFreeloader (Offaly) - Posts: 17 - 31/08/2018 13:15:33 2137898 Link 1 |
Is a shot clock feasible and realistic to implement at inter-county level? legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7857 - 31/08/2018 21:25:33 2138039 Link 0 |
You obviously believe that football is part of the entertainment industry. It's not. The aim on Sunday, for example, is to win the All-Ireland. Players won't be worrying about entertaining the people at the game or those watching on TV. Do you think Dublin supporters were turned off the game by the 'antics' of their team in last year's final as they clung on for the win? Like it or not most supporters go to watch their team win, If they do it playing brilliant football that's simply a bonus. If a team fails to win games, support drops off, irrespective of the type of football they play.
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 31/08/2018 23:05:13 2138060 Link 0 |
Shot clock, limiting handpassing would only increase significance and use of blanket defense and negative tactics, the game would turn into a game of rugby league pretty much. Both horrible ideas if anyone actually gave it a little bit of thought
tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 31/08/2018 23:27:51 2138062 Link 0 |
By far the best idea for rule changes was made by Joe Brolly a few years ago. Force teams to line up in their positions from the kickout same as what happens when the ball is thrown in. Overnight massed defensive systems would become almost unworkable due to the number of kickouts in a match. I think forcing players to stick to their 'zones' for an entire match is unworkable and would lead to an unnatural flow to the game. Kicking the ball into players up the pitch would become a good option again. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1354 - 01/09/2018 08:43:17 2138073 Link 1 |
A shot clock won't stop a team putting 15 behind the ball and could end up rewarding them. The only new rule needed is a requirement to have at least 4 players in the other teams half. FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 564 - 01/09/2018 08:45:59 2138074 Link 0 |
Football is part of the entertainment industry as are all sports. The issues with the game are not the players or managers fault the issues are 100% the GAA's fault as they have not have not adjusted the rules to ensue the sport is as entertaining as it can be. The vast majority of potential fans for every single game are neutral fans or non hardcore fans and although the really hard core fans might put up with crap football because their team is winning 95% of people won't. Your theory is baloney as only 1 team can win so if the current trend of awful football being played isn't stopped you'll have one group of fans every year happy and every else won't be, I don't think that is really a good way to run a sport. Something needs to be done to rid the game of the blanket defence and endless tedious hand passing, fast paced attacking handpassing is fine not the endless round in a circle stuff we have had to put up with over the last decade. The rules need to be changed to make the sport more entertaining , the general level of entertainment delivered by the sport in recent years has been atrocious. FreddieFreeloader (Offaly) - Posts: 17 - 01/09/2018 12:50:36 2138123 Link 0 |