I was listening to K.Donaghy on Colm Parkinson's podcast.
He said that the Dubs have a very strong Basketball influence with Jayo on the backroom team etc.
He also said that the way the Dubs play remind him of what it was like before there was a shot clock in basket-ball

I was thinking could the answer to the stagnation of Gaelic football be that simple: the introduction of a shot clock after a sensible amount of time?

gormdubhgorm (Dublin) - Posts: 990 - 24/08/2018 10:54:11    2136192

A shot clock in Gaelic Football would favour teams playing with a blanket defence.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 24/08/2018 11:14:52    2136203

Yes but the possession game that Dublin has developed was a response to The Blanket. Introducing a stop clock might encourage teams to shoot but it could have the effect of re-enforcing the perceived merits of Blanket defending. Keep the attacking team at bay, let the clock run down - attacking team forces to shoot under pressure and possession reverts to defending team. I'm not so sure KD's suggestion will make our game more exciting.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 24/08/2018 11:16:09    2136204

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 24/08/2018 11:22:47    2136209

no.

it favours a defensive team and if you can't see that there is something wrong with you.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 24/08/2018 11:25:12    2136213

Ya I think this would favour teams flooding players back. I think a rule about keeping players in a certain section of the pitch and not going back the pitch over a certain line would be more adapt at solving issues we are seeing. Not sure would this work either though

Kingofthehill100 (Mayo) - Posts: 68 - 24/08/2018 11:31:33    2136215

Would this not encourage i) systematic fouling to slow down play and ii) a massed defence? How would it be implemented at any level except the top level (i.e. who would keep the time in a club game and how would the timekeeper advise the ref / players that time was up or nearly up)? Would it result in an old fashioned hoof into the full forward line which would likely become more packed as the clock runs down? What would the shot timeframe be and would this be enough time at all levels? Would it encourage teams to run down the clock til the last moment, thus encouraging the practise its supposed to try and eradicate? Would canny managers be able devise ways to get around this (e.g. pass the ball to an opposition player as the clock runs down who would instantly be swarmed and most likely concede a free or cough possession back up, thus resetting the clock)?

I've no problem considering new ideas to help improve the game and would be interested in seeing if a rule of this nature was I) feasible, ii) readily applicable and iii) would be of benefit to the game.

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 24/08/2018 11:42:06    2136225

Jesus christ hasn't the average scores gone up in the game. What do people actually want?

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 24/08/2018 12:29:27    2136234

No.

The basketball shotclock was introduced in the 50s to increase the scoring rate for American supporters. 5 against 5 in a, usually, non-contact sport, with rolling sub's, a foul limit per half and per player leading to free throws, on a much smaller playing area. Not comparing like with like. If NBA games have less than 180 points some of their audience will surely switch off.

Are we going down the route of thinking a game is a bad game if it's not high scoring?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 24/08/2018 12:52:49    2136246

No

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 24/08/2018 12:53:15    2136247

Hi lads,

I'd bring in 2 changes to Gaelic football.

1 - if you receive a handpass, you cannot give one.
2 - A 'Mark' for a ball kicked from outside the 65 and fielded inside the 21.

I think it would restore Gaelic Football to the fine game it has been in the past.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 24/08/2018 14:17:25    2136299

Kingofthehill100 (Mayo) - Posts: 68 - 24/08/2018 14:37:07    2136313

Some posters would like to go back to the past - a past where supporters, like today, were all crying out for change to 'save the game'.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 24/08/2018 14:54:13    2136320

This is an example of a change that while on the face of it looks good but would just be used against an attacking team.

If your going to make a change then it has to be one that favours attacking play whilst not rewarding mass defences, it's very hard to come up with rules on that basis unless you actually zone the field so as 10 to 15 aren't allowed cross the half way line the same would have to apply for 2 to 7 then with your midfield getting free movement. That would make it a highly structured game though and would see the end of the attacking half back.

I've said it before but I think a 13 man game is worth looking at it naturally creates space without having to change the game to an unrecognisable sport from what it is now

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1595 - 24/08/2018 15:15:21    2136327

No.

Would be an artificial feel and too difficult to referee. A rule to limit passing back to the goalkeeper is easy to enforce and should stop the keep ball as it's an advantage to the team that doesn't have possession. There are also fair tackles that are often incorrectly blown up as frees such as shoulder to shoulder challenges.

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 24/08/2018 23:38:54    2136447

gormdubhgorm (Dublin) - Posts: 990 - 25/08/2018 09:56:17    2136466

gormdubhgorm (Dublin) - Posts: 990 - 25/08/2018 09:58:44    2136467

gormdubhgorm (Dublin) - Posts: 990 - 25/08/2018 10:00:16    2136468

Pantani (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 25/08/2018 11:32:49    2136476

No, as this would play into a defensive teams hand.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 25/08/2018 15:22:40    2136510