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John Kiely's Parade/Squad Proposals

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Replying To ballydalane:  "Loud high tempo music??!! I started a thread here a few years back complaining about the deafening background music that was being played in Croke Park before matches, right up to the second before throw-in. The music was so loud in sections that you could barely carry out a conversation with the person next to you. Unusually for one of my musings, it received practically unanimous agreement and I notice that the scale and volume of the pre-match and half time music in Croke Park has been reduced, thank God! We don't need it.

Parade is a great GAA tradition, especially in a packed stadium before a final."
Yeah it your anonymous post that led to the GAA turning the volume down. Fair play.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1412 - 18/08/2018 10:45:48    2134192

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Replying To doubleginplease:  "I take your point onion breath but the whole fanfare of the day is part of our dna and I don't have to tell you what all Ireland final day means to real gaa people. I personally like to be in the ground for 2.15 to soak up the atmosphere, read the programme, get my bottles of water and chat to like minded gaels."
Yeah I'm all in favour of a chat but in the couple of minutes before throw is what I'm talking about. What you say about the DNA is fair enough but surely it would enough to confine the parade to the all Ireland final and to county senior club finals. For other games like Ulster championship games where it still takes place before all games, it looks ridiculous especially when parading around in front of half empty stands and virtually nobody behind the goals etc.

Also the players liking/wanting it, I'm not so sure about that. It was definitely at the behest of players that it was done away with for Leinster championship games, with I recall Dublin players being particularly strong in wanting it removed, but Leinster council insisted it be kept for finals. That was about 15 years ago if I recall.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1412 - 18/08/2018 10:57:39    2134194

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Anything to back up your quack opinion on that? From speaking to people who have taken part in parades they love it, really gets them pumped up, gets the crowd pumped up. Adds to the atmosphere, adds to the adrenalin. Now why would it be more interesting in your opinion?
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4807 - 18/08/2018 09:27:27 Speaking to referees. heard someone report on difference of going from anthem to positions and starting game and then comparing it to also having parade before game. will try find link if its online somewhere

DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 18/08/2018 13:40:11    2134226

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On the parade, definitely better walking on the outside, lads on inside always standing for longer at turns. Most fans seem to love it anyway as it reaches each part of the ground. First team listed to be out for warm up can keep other team waiting too. seen it a few times going a few minutes and second team can be put off schedule.

conordee (Galway) - Posts: 440 - 18/08/2018 16:26:14    2134261

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The parade is a fantastic part of the big day and the All Ireland final parade is a special part of the day... it definitely gets the fans worked up and its a proud thing to have your own club members march behind the band whether its in Clones or Croker.
Things that work should be left alone and I think the parade definitely works really well.
I fully agree with the post that spoke about the very loud music before the throw in..it was cringeworthy and was not appreciated by too many.

I do hope that the GAA continues to try new things to improve the 'presentation' on the day.

There is some merit in having the full panel involved too.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 18/08/2018 18:13:56    2134278

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Replying To DonaldDuck:  "he parade is great man. Gets the crowd whipped up into a frenzy good style!

Don't see it in other sports really either so wouldn't like to see it gotten rid of entirely.

Don't think it'd look as well with the whole panel mind!
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 11888 - 17/08/2018 17:57:21 I dont like it in terms of a game. Allows too much be built up by players and it would be far more interesting if the game started without a parade and players went out from dressing room listened to national anthem and went and played the match"
How would that be more interesting. If there 32 in a squad then the should be allowed tog on the final day. The have done the same training/commitment as the starting 15.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 18/08/2018 19:55:12    2134294

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How would that be more interesting. If there 32 in a squad then the should be allowed tog on the final day. The have done the same training/commitment as the starting 15.
ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1128 - 18/08/2018 19:55:12Not having a parade doesnt stop people from togging out. The parade is needless. It would be far better to have national anthem and president of country/gaa/other honoured guest meet players and then play the game.

DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 18/08/2018 20:54:20    2134299

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Have to be honest I enjoy the parade before a final, helps to build the atmosphere.
If anything needs to be got rid of it's the 'friendship' handshake between the teams after they are introduced to the guest of honour. It's contrived, the players clearly don't want to be doing it and it reeks of something a Croke Park official saw in another sport and thought 'we can do that'. Let players just shake hands with the man they are marking when they line up, and when the game is over the handshakes exchanged are at least genuine and mean something.

AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 18/08/2018 22:18:39    2134310

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Replying To DonaldDuck:  "Anything to back up your quack opinion on that? From speaking to people who have taken part in parades they love it, really gets them pumped up, gets the crowd pumped up. Adds to the atmosphere, adds to the adrenalin. Now why would it be more interesting in your opinion?
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4807 - 18/08/2018 09:27:27 Speaking to referees. heard someone report on difference of going from anthem to positions and starting game and then comparing it to also having parade before game. will try find link if its online somewhere"
Moot point, the parade is always BEFORE the anthem and the ball is thrown in literally seconds after amhran na bhfiann concludes.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 18/08/2018 23:10:19    2134319

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Replying To ballydalane:  "
Replying To DonaldDuck:  "Anything to back up your quack opinion on that? From speaking to people who have taken part in parades they love it, really gets them pumped up, gets the crowd pumped up. Adds to the atmosphere, adds to the adrenalin. Now why would it be more interesting in your opinion?
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4807 - 18/08/2018 09:27:27 Speaking to referees. heard someone report on difference of going from anthem to positions and starting game and then comparing it to also having parade before game. will try find link if its online somewhere"
Moot point, the parade is always BEFORE the anthem and the ball is thrown in literally seconds after amhran na bhfiann concludes."
Still think the point is valid. Just have the anthem then play the game. Parade isnt needed. Teams go from drills/end of warm up to anthem to playing the game staight. no parade

DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 19/08/2018 10:45:16    2134351

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Whatever about John Kiely's ideas, I love the parade. And I don't find it cringeworthy in Ulster Championship. There's an element of Braveheart about it all, the war cries! When a good game follows then it makes the whole day all the better.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 19/08/2018 11:10:05    2134358

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Replying To DonaldDuck:  "How would that be more interesting. If there 32 in a squad then the should be allowed tog on the final day. The have done the same training/commitment as the starting 15.
ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1128 - 18/08/2018 19:55:12Not having a parade doesnt stop people from togging out. The parade is needless. It would be far better to have national anthem and president of country/gaa/other honoured guest meet players and then play the game."
Why would it be far better. What advantages would it have. None as far as I can see.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 19/08/2018 18:04:14    2134445

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I would think very few of the 82000 in Croke Park yesterday would agree with stopping the parade. It was fantastic yesterday

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 944 - 20/08/2018 10:59:32    2134650

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no he wasnt suggesting stopping the parade,rather he wanted the squad extended to 30+ and the entire squad to parade.
i think the parade is pointless,boring,and as a player who has warmed up 10 minutes earlier,it must be a nightmare!

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 20/08/2018 11:13:34    2134657

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Don't see the purpose of a 30+ panel other than as a training panel which is all it is. Being number 29 on panel is just that.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 20/08/2018 11:37:20    2134675

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