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Why Are Dubliners Choosing To Give The Greatest Dublin Team Ever A Miss

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Replying To brendtheredhand:  "When they split Dublin in two, who's laying claim to Croke Park?"
They'll be split in 4.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7854 - 13/08/2018 21:45:08    2132961

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North v South Dublin, who would retain the blue jerseys? it could end up a great rivalry like the old firm.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2749 - 13/08/2018 21:58:03    2132967

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Main reason for a non show by Galway fans would have been a lot of them in reality probably felt they wouldn't beat Dublin.

The hurlers are on the verge of retaining Liam McCarthy this weekend, fans will always go with the more successful team in the county.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 730 - 13/08/2018 22:33:15    2132990

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The dubs fans aren't going because like I said last year the allireland has turned into the SPL.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 13/08/2018 22:37:38    2132994

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "As Dub of course I always want dublin to win but I also want to see good matches. Theres a reason Leinster QFs and SFs were selling out in the 00s it was the teams were evenly matched and there were excellent games. I really dont get much pleasure from watching Dublin steamrolling other Leinster teams made up of players playing at a lower standard (no disrespect intended). Seems a lot of other Dubs feel the same judging by attendances"
We beat Kiladre by 1 point in semi final in 2011 , we beat Wexford by 3 points in the final.
We hadn't won Sam since 1995 . These were very close games. Yet 43 ,900 attended 2011 Leinster final.
There was 66,000 at Leinster final two years ago against Kildare which weren't close.
So competitive games aren't necessarily the reason.
It's the opposition and their amount of support can also make a difference
We had about 45 ,000 Dubs there on Saturday.
I'd say our max is 60,000 , Definetly about 10,000 Dubs didn't go that would normally plus Galway had small support which is understandable with Hurling replay and final.
Had game on Saturday been against Kerry or Mayo I'd have expected 75k.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 13/08/2018 23:04:18    2133004

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Super 8s has a lot to do with it, people aren't made of money. You often get a better view watching on tv. If i was from Dublin i wouldn't go to see them beat Tyrone twice. And Galway offered just the same as Laois in the Leinster final. We were level with Dublin at the 30min mark and Dublin pummelled us then. The game might be an all ireland semi final in name but most Dubs knew it was going to go the way of all their other games bar the Mayo ones.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 13/08/2018 23:05:55    2133005

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I love the Dubs and the way they play football, enjoy their supporters also; but they are just so superior at the moment, there is zero chance of an upset. Watching team after team being steamrollered must get boring after a while, and with their playing population and financial resources, this hegemony may last forever

befair (Down) - Posts: 237 - 13/08/2018 23:26:36    2133008

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I hope they beat Tyrone by 10 points playing their fast attacking brand of football.

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 14/08/2018 08:38:40    2133038

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Replying To legendzxix:  "They'll be split in 4."
Ahh I see the reactionary revisionists are at it again!

Yes.. split Dublin even though it's been a hugely competitive decade?

Not one cake walk All Ireland in football this decade! Unlike the 00's wha !!

2010 - Dublin soundly beaten in Leinster

2011 - 1 pt win (off the back of a narrow s/f win)

2012 - Dublin soundly beaten

2013 - 1pt win (off the back of a classic s/f win)

2014 - Dublin soundly beaten

2015 - 3 pt win (off the back of a 2 game s/f saga)

2016 - 2 game All Ireland saga ends in 1pt win (off the back of ANOTHER s/f classic)

2017 - 1 pt win

Yes let's ignore how truly competitive this decade has been.

All in the vested interest of those that just want to see Dublin GAA broken up purely born out of their own inadequacy !

Dublin have been there to be beaten numerous times this decade in big games, for the large part those chances just weren't taken.

Answer = Split Dublin?

Cowardly talk lads. I can hear your knees knocking from here!

How the mighty have fallen indeed.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 14/08/2018 09:10:22    2133045

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Replying To arock:  "There was a poor turnout from Galway and they had minors before hand too. And yeah the form book doesn't lie for bookies nor for punters so predictability could be a factor. But you can't expect one county (even Dublin) to fill the place alone."
i remember the odds against donegal being rather uncompetitive too...poor turnout from us in fairness when compared with the pillar era....never expected galway to bring much as they never do but we should be bringing 60 easily ourselves if not more...think the ease at which we are winning has effected things somewhat...we probably have about 25k diehards would that be an accurate figure?

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 14/08/2018 10:11:46    2133061

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Just for the record this Dublin team has changed dramatically from when it started it's dominance. The title is misleading.

Anyway it wasn't the Dubs that were absent, it was the lads from the West.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 14/08/2018 10:28:45    2133072

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Just for the record this Dublin team has changed dramatically from when it started it's dominance. The title is misleading.

Anyway it wasn't the Dubs that were absent, it was the lads from the West."
true..our conversion rate of players from successful u21 teams has been incredible

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 14/08/2018 10:33:54    2133079

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Ahh I see the reactionary revisionists are at it again!

Yes.. split Dublin even though it's been a hugely competitive decade?

Not one cake walk All Ireland in football this decade! Unlike the 00's wha !!

2010 - Dublin soundly beaten in Leinster

2011 - 1 pt win (off the back of a narrow s/f win)

2012 - Dublin soundly beaten

2013 - 1pt win (off the back of a classic s/f win)

2014 - Dublin soundly beaten

2015 - 3 pt win (off the back of a 2 game s/f saga)

2016 - 2 game All Ireland saga ends in 1pt win (off the back of ANOTHER s/f classic)

2017 - 1 pt win

Yes let's ignore how truly competitive this decade has been.

All in the vested interest of those that just want to see Dublin GAA broken up purely born out of their own inadequacy !

Dublin have been there to be beaten numerous times this decade in big games, for the large part those chances just weren't taken.

Answer = Split Dublin?

Cowardly talk lads. I can hear your knees knocking from here!

How the mighty have fallen indeed."
pretty certain the spilt in 4 comment was in jest... you really took a big bite though haha!

Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 14/08/2018 11:12:29    2133098

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Just for the record this Dublin team has changed dramatically from when it started it's dominance. The title is misleading.

Anyway it wasn't the Dubs that were absent, it was the lads from the West."
Interesting though that it gets twisted by those looking to insinuate that we're some how bored... the average turnout being Dublin's fault... you have the usual cohorts clutching onto any perceived negative

Galway are a hurling first county especially in recent years and their supporters just had a semifinal/replay to attend.. I certainly completely understand why the Galway supporters didn't travel in greater numbers considering they have an All Ireland hurling final coming up!

Sure we probably had less there but there was still plenty of Dublin supporters in attendance and if we were playing Kerry/Mayo/Tyrone I'd expect it would have been closer to a sellout.

Galway and Dublin don't have much of a rivalry and very little has happened between the two counties since 1983

Add it all together and you've got your answer. It was a pity it wasn't a higher attendance but unfortunately there is a lot of negativity being attached to football and to a large extent we're our own worse enemy.. it's hardly marketing the sport well when all certain quarters do is belittle and rubbish the game.

A perfect example of it is on here...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 14/08/2018 11:32:01    2133116

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Replying To Miami305:  "pretty certain the spilt in 4 comment was in jest... you really took a big bite though haha!"
Nope

I'm getting that one in nice and early

Cause you can put your house on the noise to split Dublin if they manage to win 4 in a row increasing dramatically from the usual empty vessels

Highly predictable revisionism coming up while ignoring the actual reality of how competitive this decade has been.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 14/08/2018 11:38:02    2133122

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Fair question to be asked. Given how good the Dublin team, how much of a population the County has and how there is always huge demand come the likes of the final then there is no reason why Dublin shouldn't be able to fill Croke Park themselves so a 1/3 empty stadium for a semi involving them is quite surprising. Not saying they should be expected to fill - just that they should be able!

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 14/08/2018 12:12:17    2133139

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Replying To Offside_Rule:  "Fair question to be asked. Given how good the Dublin team, how much of a population the County has and how there is always huge demand come the likes of the final then there is no reason why Dublin shouldn't be able to fill Croke Park themselves so a 1/3 empty stadium for a semi involving them is quite surprising. Not saying they should be expected to fill - just that they should be able!"
Yeah it was a strange attendance I thought.

Dublin still brought in a huge crowd but obviously down on previous semi-finals. I think the new format with more games, and less build up to games had an effect. Also the fact that it was against Galway, who themselves didn't travel for the same reasons and the added fact of their hurlers run.

A huge amount of neutrals stayed away. A combination of the above factors as well as the perceived strength of Dublin v Galway as well as the general negativity surrounding football at the moment.

Anecdotally I know of a good few neutrals involved in our club who would normally have gone but didn't and it was for a combination of the above factors I think.

Certainly food for thought for the GAA. They'll have to take a look at the new structure, as well as ticket prices etc.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 14/08/2018 13:03:16    2133173

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Yes it was the Galway fans and the neutrals that stayed away. They were discussing this on the 'throw in' podcast. They talked about the lack of Galway support and hence the poor atmosphere. They said that with Galway being in the hurling final was probably the main reason, financially etc, and that's fair enough. If the opposition was Kerry or Mayo you would've been looking at 70,000+.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 14/08/2018 14:05:30    2133203

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Predictability doesn't sell. It's that simple

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 14/08/2018 14:31:19    2133220

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to steal a line from todays guardian referencing Manchester city... "the problem with excellence is how commonplace it can quickly come to feel"

This seems very apt when talking Dublin football.

Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 14/08/2018 15:20:43    2133246

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