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54k at clare v galway 49k at clare v galway replay in Thurles 72k cork v limerick 49k monaghan v tyrone 54k Dublin v galway First time I ever remember the hurling being more popular then the football. Discuss. Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 13/08/2018 10:04:31 2132562 Link
Replying To Jack_Goff: "54k at clare v galway 49k at clare v galway replay in Thurles 72k cork v limerick 49k monaghan v tyrone 54k Dublin v galway First time I ever remember the hurling being more popular then the football. Discuss." Apathy Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 13/08/2018 10:44:39 2132592 Link
i was talking to a few dubs in the bar on saturday evening.their attitude? "we've seen it all before,sure its boring watching dublin now,and 100 euro better spent on a weekend in wexford and a few pints". there is also the novelty-for limerick and clare in particular,an all-ireland semi without kk or tipp is a more appealing affair. cork always bring a big crowd. the air of inevitability about football,compared to the "any one can win it" in hurling,is the main reason for the different attendance. then there is also the entertainment element. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 13/08/2018 10:47:15 2132594 Link
Replying To perfect10: "i was talking to a few dubs in the bar on saturday evening.their attitude? "we've seen it all before,sure its boring watching dublin now,and 100 euro better spent on a weekend in wexford and a few pints". there is also the novelty-for limerick and clare in particular,an all-ireland semi without kk or tipp is a more appealing affair. cork always bring a big crowd. the air of inevitability about football,compared to the "any one can win it" in hurling,is the main reason for the different attendance. then there is also the entertainment element." Unfortunately if it was the cork footballers id say only about 1/3 of the fans would show up PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 13/08/2018 11:25:18 2132619 Link
I don't think you can blame the Dublin fans. They are still turning out in big numbers. 20/25k turned up for a dead rubber against Roscommon, I'd say they had 45k yesterday for a game that very few of them must have felt there was any doubt about them winning especially after Galway poor performance against Monaghan the previous week. The difference with the hurling semi finals is that all 4 remaining teams felt they had a real chance of winning the All Ireland. Hurling attendances were well down during Kilkenny's period of dominance too, especially in the leinster championship. A bit like Kilkenny back then we could do with the Dubs getting beaten for the good of the Championship. The real issue is that with a population of 100k, the cats were always going to go through a lean spell talent wise. With a population of 1.5 million and brilliant structures and organisation we could be waiting a bit longer for the fall of the Dubs. dahayeser (Cork) - Posts: 338 - 13/08/2018 11:33:34 2132622 Link
Replying To Jack_Goff: "54k at clare v galway 49k at clare v galway replay in Thurles 72k cork v limerick 49k monaghan v tyrone 54k Dublin v galway First time I ever remember the hurling being more popular then the football. Discuss." Quality of matches and parity between the teams. Speed and pace make it great to watch live or on tv. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2127 - 13/08/2018 11:36:19 2132624 Link
Replying To Jack_Goff: "54k at clare v galway 49k at clare v galway replay in Thurles 72k cork v limerick 49k monaghan v tyrone 54k Dublin v galway First time I ever remember the hurling being more popular then the football. Discuss." One game was more popular going by them figures. doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 13/08/2018 11:37:34 2132625 Link
What happens if football gets even less competitive over the next 5 to 10 years but hurling stays as competitive or even more so. The likes of Dublin, limerick, galway, wexford, clare and waterford who traditionally have won very few all Irelands have the potential to win over the next 5 to 10 years keeping hurling very fresh. Even cork and tipperary who are traditional power houses have won very little in recent history. Could hurling remain the more popular sport for the next few decades. We could have just witnessed a major turning of the tide. Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 13/08/2018 11:38:07 2132626 Link
"we've seen it all before,sure its boring watching dublin now,and 100 euro better spent on a weekend in wexford and a few pints". Didn't happen. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 13/08/2018 11:44:01 2132633 Link
Don't think there is much to discuss, the style of football played by most intercounty teams is incredibly dull to watch and people would rather spend their money elsewhere. At intercounty it's lost most of the elements that make it a great sport to play and watch and seeing players fail to toe tap the ball under no pressure over the weekend tells you all you need to know about the problems in the game. Even when Saturdays game was quite close you could clearly hear Kevin Walsh shouting on the line when watching on tv, that will tell you how subdued the atmosphere was in the stadium. Football as a sport is still very enjoyable at underage and at most club levels, but as predicted years ago at intercounty level many fans have lost interest. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 13/08/2018 12:08:10 2132649 Link
Replying To Jack_Goff: "54k at clare v galway 49k at clare v galway replay in Thurles 72k cork v limerick 49k monaghan v tyrone 54k Dublin v galway First time I ever remember the hurling being more popular then the football. Discuss." Given that Galway folk have two teams to support and had being on the road 2 weekends in a row at the hurling semi final and replay ,and that it was Dublin they were playing against may have being a reason for a lower Galway following in Croke Park.As we've being told often enough Monaghan is the fourth least populated in the country and probably at a guess 50% of Tyrone would be GAA people, might account for the lesser crowds at the football this weekend. Then again as has being pointed out only one of the hurling games had a higher attendance than the football . aceofspades (Cavan) - Posts: 256 - 13/08/2018 12:33:41 2132663 Link
Replying To dahayeser: "I don't think you can blame the Dublin fans. They are still turning out in big numbers. 20/25k turned up for a dead rubber against Roscommon, I'd say they had 45k yesterday for a game that very few of them must have felt there was any doubt about them winning especially after Galway poor performance against Monaghan the previous week. The difference with the hurling semi finals is that all 4 remaining teams felt they had a real chance of winning the All Ireland. Hurling attendances were well down during Kilkenny's period of dominance too, especially in the leinster championship. A bit like Kilkenny back then we could do with the Dubs getting beaten for the good of the Championship. The real issue is that with a population of 100k, the cats were always going to go through a lean spell talent wise. With a population of 1.5 million and brilliant structures and organisation we could be waiting a bit longer for the fall of the Dubs." There was not 45k Dubs in fairness. More 35k. I would say 12 to 15k Galway but I get your general sense. The atmosphere was subdued and I sense most matches with the Dubs are like that. kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1947 - 13/08/2018 13:18:52 2132693 Link
Replying To aceofspades: "Given that Galway folk have two teams to support and had being on the road 2 weekends in a row at the hurling semi final and replay ,and that it was Dublin they were playing against may have being a reason for a lower Galway following in Croke Park.As we've being told often enough Monaghan is the fourth least populated in the country and probably at a guess 50% of Tyrone would be GAA people, might account for the lesser crowds at the football this weekend. Then again as has being pointed out only one of the hurling games had a higher attendance than the football ." galway,a bit like wexford,has defined support for both codes,and very rarely the twain shall meet. same as wexford,there is very few dual supporters. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 13/08/2018 13:32:50 2132702 Link
Replying To perfect10: "galway,a bit like wexford,has defined support for both codes,and very rarely the twain shall meet. same as wexford,there is very few dual supporters." That is an interesting point. In Galway we have very few dual clubs at senior level which might explain to some extent. Wexford I understood to have a good few dual clubs at senior level. kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1947 - 13/08/2018 13:41:23 2132712 Link
The GAA rushing the championship hasn't helped with most fans having limited resources to be able to afford to go to games. Tyrone supporters had match yesterday, away tp Donegal previous sunday, home to Dublin previous sunday, croke park v Kildare sunday before....other counties the same. It may suit the hierarchy to get the championship out of the way playing matchs week on week but most countys supporters cant afford week on week games. hurler32 (Limerick) - Posts: 867 - 13/08/2018 14:26:04 2132744 Link
Replying To kiloughter: "There was not 45k Dubs in fairness. More 35k. I would say 12 to 15k Galway but I get your general sense. The atmosphere was subdued and I sense most matches with the Dubs are like that." In fairness there was no way 12 to 15k Galway , I would say no more than 7 to 8k superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 13/08/2018 14:36:39 2132751 Link
Replying To kiloughter: "There was not 45k Dubs in fairness. More 35k. I would say 12 to 15k Galway but I get your general sense. The atmosphere was subdued and I sense most matches with the Dubs are like that." Crowds react to the style of play...the atmosphere at the Dublin v Mayo games of recent years has been unreal..stadium shaking with noise yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 13/08/2018 14:39:58 2132754 Link
Replying To superbluedub: "In fairness there was no way 12 to 15k Galway , I would say no more than 7 to 8k" We'll agree to disagree. I was in the lower Cusack and thought there was plenty of pockets in the Davin and the Hogan. I could not see the Cusack obviously. I have no idea of calculating but when the match is not at the highest on the excitement radar the crowd are somewhat underwhelming. kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1947 - 13/08/2018 15:21:25 2132776 Link
think apathy by far the main factor...way too uncompetitive currently...plus galway footballers simply do not get good support...monaghan outnumbered them in salthill last week i believe alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 13/08/2018 15:39:17 2132782 Link
Replying To kiloughter: "That is an interesting point. In Galway we have very few dual clubs at senior level which might explain to some extent. Wexford I understood to have a good few dual clubs at senior level." plenty of dual clubs,and yeah a good few at senior,but most clubs prefer 1 over the other. i suppose if a lad can hurl he can play football too generally. but most supporters,support 1 or other,especially at county level. in dual supporters defence,it is nigh on impossible to get to both codes bar your only commitments in live is gaa. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 13/08/2018 15:45:54 2132785 Link