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Interesting going back to the 2012 Semi final match day squads how many of the lads are still on the go 6 years later... James Skehill (Cappataggle); Johnny Coen (Loughrea); David Burke (St. Thomas's), Niall Burke (Oranmore-Maree), Conor Cooney (St. Thomas's), Joe Canning (Portumna), Fergal Flannery (Padraig Pearses), Joseph Cooney (Sarsfields), Jonathan Glynn (Ardrahan), Davy Glennon (Mullagh), Shane Maloney (Tynagh-Abbey-Duniry) Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 09/08/2018 11:09:28 2131156 Link
Replying To Miami305: "Interesting going back to the 2012 Semi final match day squads how many of the lads are still on the go 6 years later... James Skehill (Cappataggle); Johnny Coen (Loughrea); David Burke (St. Thomas's), Niall Burke (Oranmore-Maree), Conor Cooney (St. Thomas's), Joe Canning (Portumna), Fergal Flannery (Padraig Pearses), Joseph Cooney (Sarsfields), Jonathan Glynn (Ardrahan), Davy Glennon (Mullagh), Shane Maloney (Tynagh-Abbey-Duniry)" Hard to believe it! I'd like to see more involvment of Shane Maloney and Davy Glennon as impact subs...both good lads to win a free or get a score when needed katser2 (Galway) - Posts: 41 - 09/08/2018 11:56:31 2131173 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "Are you serious - there was nothing easy about the Waterford game. The same Waterford team that were robbed against Tipp and took Cork down to the wire. Limerick beat Tipp by six points and Gullane missed three or four frees that he would have scored with his eyes shut last Sunday week. It may not have been easy, but we certainly beat Tipp far easier than either Galway or Clare did in their last outings against the Premier County. As regards my 'theory', I have no theory, I was merely highlighting the fact that because a team played one bad game in past six months does not guarantee they will be easily beaten in the final and that using results in that fashion is no great help in predicting the outcome of any game. I do not for minute claim for example that because Cork beat Clare twice and we beat Cork that that indicates we have a better than Clare. That simply is not how it works." I agree its not how it works.For example theres a world of difference between Tipp in May this year and Tipp in August last year. Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 09/08/2018 12:31:20 2131185 Link
Replying To Barnowl94: "I agree its not how it works.For example theres a world of difference between Tipp in May this year and Tipp in August last year." That is why Galway are odds on favourits to win. I don't know what the handicap is but I would expect it to be 5 or 6 points. Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 944 - 09/08/2018 13:01:01 2131200 Link
Replying To Westfester: "That is why Galway are odds on favourits to win. I don't know what the handicap is but I would expect it to be 5 or 6 points." good lord I wish! I would be putting on a very large sum if the handicap was +6 for limerick at evens! Handicap is 2, gal way -2 evens and Limerick +2 is 10/11 Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 09/08/2018 15:40:55 2131256 Link
Replying To Miami305: "good lord I wish! I would be putting on a very large sum if the handicap was +6 for limerick at evens! Handicap is 2, gal way -2 evens and Limerick +2 is 10/11" I thought it would be more considering Galway are current champions, are unbeaten in the championship this year and last year while Limerick only won 2 of 4 Munster games. Maybe the fact that there will be a referee is counting against them with the bookies (;. ;) Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 944 - 09/08/2018 19:04:28 2131311 Link
Replying To Westfester: "I thought it would be more considering Galway are current champions, are unbeaten in the championship this year and last year while Limerick only won 2 of 4 Munster games. Maybe the fact that there will be a referee is counting against them with the bookies (;. ;)" Referees impacted the spread alright in Galway's last two games with Clare, so you are spot on there. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3425 - 09/08/2018 20:44:54 2131333 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Referees impacted the spread alright in Galway's last two games with Clare, so you are spot on there." A great year for hurling will hopefully be adorned with a great All Ireland final, certainly all the ingredients are in place. Galway will start as slight favorites by dint of being the current holders of the title, and also the more experienced team, Limerick are having a great year with one of their main ambitions achieved with promotion from division 1,B . Since then some great performances against Tipperary, Waterford, Cork, and Kilkenny have seen them deservedly into the final. I think most neutrals expect a Tribe victory, but if Limerick can stay in contention going in to the last ten min their recent history of finishing strongly will lead them to believe they can do it. clonjon (Dublin) - Posts: 665 - 10/08/2018 14:22:52 2131544 Link
Thank god for hurling. .. can't wait for next Sunday! katser2 (Galway) - Posts: 41 - 11/08/2018 19:00:41 2131857 Link
I think this will be a great game. Hard to call. Galway are deserved favourites, however from a position where I thought last year they were untouchable I feel that is definitely not the case. The Clare test was the best thing for them however and highlighted their hunger to win again. Limerick are also a very strong outfit. They had one bad outing in Munster and drew against a strong Cork team with 14 men for most the game. I knew they'd be strong in the semi and I was surprised to see Cork flying so high with five min to go, however the rest is history and Limerick showed the character of champions to win that game. I only hope that Limerick do not let the occasion beat them and both teams play to their potential. I will tip Limerick, because I feel they can match the physicality of Galway better than any other team at the moment, and all round their hurlers are showing better touch than Galway. However, I wouldn't put a hair between them. Roll on next week. BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 311 - 11/08/2018 20:16:53 2131917 Link
All is quiet from both camps. Any injury concern. I take it G McInerney will be on from the start. Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 944 - 13/08/2018 23:58:15 2133016 Link
Replying To Westfester: "All is quiet from both camps. Any injury concern. I take it G McInerney will be on from the start." All quiet indeed. Is the an All-Ireland Final on in 5 days or what!? Is it fair to say there isn't much "buzz" at the moment? I think there needs to be a 2 week lead up to the final. Obviously with the football semi finals on this weekend gone, everything last week was aimed at that. That just leads barely a week to focus on the final as media wise, the Monday and Tuesday of this week still dealing with the football semi finals. How's everyone sorted for tickets?! Is it madness down in limerick? Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 14/08/2018 10:02:30 2133055 Link
Replying To Barnowl94: "I agree its not how it works.For example theres a world of difference between Tipp in May this year and Tipp in August last year." I agree with you there but you must remember that Tipperary are now in rebuilding mode and that will take some time. I believe they wont see a munster final for the next 2 years or so and a manager has also to be found. doubleginplease (Limerick) - Posts: 19 - 14/08/2018 10:57:36 2133089 Link
So many matches this year in both codes that this must feel like just another game for jaded Galway hurlers on the ditch. No wonder there's no talk. Not much to talk about anyway. No recent championship rivalry with this Limerick team, and I'd set no store on this year's NHL game. Just like last year with Waterford, impossible to know what will happen, because we just haven't seen any previous clashes. Different with KK & Tipp, who we seemed to play constantly, you'd know exactly what to expect. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3425 - 14/08/2018 11:28:08 2133111 Link
how can an all-ireland feel like "just another game". i can bet you one thing,in limerick it is far from just another game! perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 14/08/2018 11:32:12 2133117 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "So many matches this year in both codes that this must feel like just another game for jaded Galway hurlers on the ditch. No wonder there's no talk. Not much to talk about anyway. No recent championship rivalry with this Limerick team, and I'd set no store on this year's NHL game. Just like last year with Waterford, impossible to know what will happen, because we just haven't seen any previous clashes. Different with KK & Tipp, who we seemed to play constantly, you'd know exactly what to expect." I agree with you in that the league match has no bearing on Sunday's match. If you remember last year when Galway hammered Tipp in the League Final but barely beat them in the Semi Final. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2126 - 14/08/2018 11:44:14 2133126 Link
WINS / MOST RECENT / FINAL LOSSES/ LAST LOSING FINAL / FINAL WIN RATIO 1 Kilkenny. 36 2015 26 2016 58% 2 Cork 30 2005 19 2013 61% 3 Tipperary 27 2016 13 2014 68% 4 Limerick 7 1973 8 2007 47% 5 Dublin 6 1938 14 1961 30% Wexford 6 1996 11 1977 35% 7 Galway 5 2017 19 2015 17% 8 Offaly 4 1998 3 2000 57% Clare 4 2013 4 2002 50% 10 Waterford 2 1959 4 2017 33% 11 Kerry 1 1891 0 - 100% London 1 1901 3 1903 25% Laois.svg Laois 1 1915 2 1949 33% 14 Antrim.svg Antrim 0 - 2 1989 0% Interesting looking at the stats, and how Galway's final win rate is by far the worst of any of the counties who have contested quite a few. Evidently every final is huge, but I really think this takes on even greater importance when defining this sides 'legacy'. Many of the guys have been around since 2012. In that time we will have contested 4 finals out of 7. If they manage to go back to back and make it 2 out of 4 AI's, that to me is a world away from 1 of 4. It will put such a different spin and light on it when we look back on it. Add to the fact winning back to back is notoriously difficult, especially for a non "big 3" county. Only Galway and Wexford have achieved it once each (55,56 wex and 87,88 Gal) Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 14/08/2018 13:14:29 2133176 Link
Replying To Miami305: "WINS / MOST RECENT / FINAL LOSSES/ LAST LOSING FINAL / FINAL WIN RATIO 1 Kilkenny. 36 2015 26 2016 58% 2 Cork 30 2005 19 2013 61% 3 Tipperary 27 2016 13 2014 68% 4 Limerick 7 1973 8 2007 47% 5 Dublin 6 1938 14 1961 30% Wexford 6 1996 11 1977 35% 7 Galway 5 2017 19 2015 17% 8 Offaly 4 1998 3 2000 57% Clare 4 2013 4 2002 50% 10 Waterford 2 1959 4 2017 33% 11 Kerry 1 1891 0 - 100% London 1 1901 3 1903 25% Laois.svg Laois 1 1915 2 1949 33% 14 Antrim.svg Antrim 0 - 2 1989 0% Interesting looking at the stats, and how Galway's final win rate is by far the worst of any of the counties who have contested quite a few. Evidently every final is huge, but I really think this takes on even greater importance when defining this sides 'legacy'. Many of the guys have been around since 2012. In that time we will have contested 4 finals out of 7. If they manage to go back to back and make it 2 out of 4 AI's, that to me is a world away from 1 of 4. It will put such a different spin and light on it when we look back on it. Add to the fact winning back to back is notoriously difficult, especially for a non "big 3" county. Only Galway and Wexford have achieved it once each (55,56 wex and 87,88 Gal)" obviously those stats are seriously skewed with galway being 1 game away from a final for years and munster teams trying to come true a minefield Munster championship with no back door. It's also clearly evident why kilkenny have been in so many finals and, dare I say it, won so many, because of the often lack of competition in Leinster bar a few golden years here and there for the likes of offaly and wexford. blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 14/08/2018 14:27:38 2133218 Link
In fact I believe if cork and kilkenny had been in opposite championships, Cork would have 40+ all irelands. blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 14/08/2018 14:29:49 2133219 Link
Replying To Miami305: "WINS / MOST RECENT / FINAL LOSSES/ LAST LOSING FINAL / FINAL WIN RATIO 1 Kilkenny. 36 2015 26 2016 58% 2 Cork 30 2005 19 2013 61% 3 Tipperary 27 2016 13 2014 68% 4 Limerick 7 1973 8 2007 47% 5 Dublin 6 1938 14 1961 30% Wexford 6 1996 11 1977 35% 7 Galway 5 2017 19 2015 17% 8 Offaly 4 1998 3 2000 57% Clare 4 2013 4 2002 50% 10 Waterford 2 1959 4 2017 33% 11 Kerry 1 1891 0 - 100% London 1 1901 3 1903 25% Laois.svg Laois 1 1915 2 1949 33% 14 Antrim.svg Antrim 0 - 2 1989 0% Interesting looking at the stats, and how Galway's final win rate is by far the worst of any of the counties who have contested quite a few. Evidently every final is huge, but I really think this takes on even greater importance when defining this sides 'legacy'. Many of the guys have been around since 2012. In that time we will have contested 4 finals out of 7. If they manage to go back to back and make it 2 out of 4 AI's, that to me is a world away from 1 of 4. It will put such a different spin and light on it when we look back on it. Add to the fact winning back to back is notoriously difficult, especially for a non "big 3" county. Only Galway and Wexford have achieved it once each (55,56 wex and 87,88 Gal)" We've been through this before, Miami, and that Galway 'win rate' is skewed, because the county reached numerous finals that they should never have been in, off the back of the 'golden ticket' arrangement, that saw Galway reach all-ireland semis automatically, year after year. Between 1975 and 1993 alone, Galway lost 7 finals that they possibly would not have contested, if they'd had to win a Munster or Leinster championship at the time. Take out those seven, and our win rate is a more normal 30%. Galway probably 'enjoyed' that uncontested route to finals on many occasions prior to 1975 as well, which magnifies the skew. In stark contrast, after remaining unbeaten through 5 championship jousts with KK & Clare recently, this current Galway setup will not be complaining about being undercooked heading to the 2018 final. By the way, that 17% number looks like it hasn't been updated with last year's win! Like Sinn Féin, we're up 3 points since last year!! Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3425 - 14/08/2018 14:31:24 2133221 Link